US Election 2020: President Elect Biden and VP Elect Harris

[Chief]

This thread is continued in... The Aftermath

US Election 2020: President Biden and VP Harris - The Aftermath

Now we have most of the main players confirmed its time to start the thread on this Pence I assume will be Trumps VP - but I will leave the ? until confirmed https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T09&p0=900&msg=Inauguration+2021&font=sanserif

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[Blue1980]

On the off chance the Trump team proved systematic election fraud it would uncover the greatest attack on a western democracy ever perpetuated. The media would never recover their reputations and big tech would lose their protections. Many people would have to go to jail. The whole current democrat hierarchy would probably have to be turned over. Democrat voters across the US would abandon the party on principle, admit they were wrong and fall in behind president Trump#

#This bit may not happen

Your dream of a Trump dictatorship, and that’s all it will take?

 

[Balls In]

Your dream of a Trump dictatorship, and that’s all it will take?

A Trump dictatorship?

 

[Malifice]

A Trump dictatorship?

Yeah. Would you support Trump passing an 'Enabling Act' granting himself supreme Executive and Legislative power, while also abolishing Term limits for office (so he could get the job done without a hostile Sentate or Democrat interference)?

The Powers would only be granted so he could deal with the Terrorists, ANTIFA goons, Marxists and other undesirables of course, and bring peace and law and order to the USA. It would be a temporary measure.

You'd support that I take it?

 

[Blue1980]

It may take years of deprogramming for Cult of Trump members to make sense of the swifty that's been pulled on them. Without a definitive event, like being led into a disastrous war, they may never see through it. I mean, plenty of people still think guys like Mao and Hitler were just terrific.

They’ve gone this far and got so emotionally invested, for many it will be a gradual process to realise they have been totally had.

Then of course some will go on for years/decades.

 

[Malifice]

They’ve gone this far and got so emotionally invested, for many it will be a gradual process to realise they have been totally had.

It wont happen. It's too far gone.

Short of the USA building a national internet firewall, and getting serious about foreign disinformation (and cracking down on social media platforms) the horse has already bolted.

It's going to get worse.

 

[Monkey King]

It's not just Cult Trump members that have been manipulated.

The Russian disinformation campaign also targeted left leaning people (specifically on the ground of Race), seeking to rile them up and sow discord in the USA.

Some of the leading fake accounts on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook etc were actually purporting to be BLM activists, ANTIFA members and so forth and have been spreading left wing disinformation and encouraging violence and looting as well.

They also encouraged Democrats who are more aligned with Saunders or the Democrat Left not to vote for Clinton or Biden (which of course favours Trump).

It's not just Trumpists that have been manipulated here. The intent was to sow discord, and it succeeded spectacualrly.

The saddest part is it exposes the weakness of free speech, free "press" and an individuals right consume information freely and apply that to their role in the democratic process. As much as I hate the censorship in China with their Great Firewall, running this level of interference simply isn't an option there.

After decades of America and democratic Allies interfering with governments around the world, the internet has left us all wide open to manipulation, particularly in countries where the leaders themselves are more intent on self serving manipulation and disinformation than protecting their institutions.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

And what do you think the chances of this, 'the greatest attack on a western democracy ever perpetuated' being true? Really?

With such a massive massive conspiracy with so many that must have been involved, do you think Murphy's law might have leaked it?

Given Trump's financials, do you think it more probable he is interested in soaking up donations for himself in the time he has left?

Given these two different reasons for Trumps intransigence, maybe look at Occam's razor for the answer.

I'll say it again. Any conspiracy theory worth its salt has at least the whiff of credibility about it.

 

[Malifice]

The saddest part is it exposes the weakness of free speech, free "press" and an individuals right consume information freely and apply that to their role in the democratic process.

The problem is the speech is used as a tool of manipulation. In the same way defrauding or misrepresentation is not allowed under freedom of speech, neither should this.

Of course, then we get to the difficult question of what content to moderate, and how do we police it. At the moment we're leaving it to social media platforms to moderate their own content and they haven't been all that fantastic at that role, and are in no position (as private companies) to do so. Thats the role of the Government to regulate, not the role of companies to self regulate.

And yes, I realise the irony of me critiquing moderation of social media platforms as a moderator of a social media platform.

 

[darklake]

What's this about Trump being talked out of Bombing Iran?

It's been lost in the Lindsey Graham is an idiot news

Can't understand why he failed to get the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

[Malifice]

I'll say it again. Any conspiracy theory worth its salt has at least the whiff of credibility about it.

Not any more mate. Qanon for starters. It's even more batshit crazy than Lizard folk or Chemtrails.

 

[The Passenger]

One of the downsides of (mostly) unfettered freedom of speech and a liberalised attitude to society is that you can't counterattack enemies using the same tactics.

Try running a Qanon style conspiracy on Russian or Chinese social media networks and it'll be a kyboshed before you even hit вводить.

 

[Gavin Excell]

What a freak show America is

The fallen superpower

 

[troybe]

Can't understand why he failed to get the Nobel Peace Prize.

Bloody hippies at the World Food Program ruined it for everybody’s favourite President.


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[sherb]

I'll say it again. Any conspiracy theory worth its salt has at least the whiff of credibility about it.

And examination. And evidence.

 

[bok_party]

lol theres always a tweet

Actually interesting he said this considering he’s been on news shows declaring his support for trump.

 

[QuietB]

It's on Hunter's laptop. 2 weeks away.

So same day as the health policy?

 

[CrowBloke]

An oversized wine glass of Karens?

A Snifter of Karens?
OK, why not? Their outbursts are often ---

wait for it ---


on the nose.

 

[JP Sauce]

Hannity calling in the big guns, Sarah Palin.

.....got the sound turned down so a fair chance it’s Tina Fey.

“I can see voter fraud from my house!”

 

[QuietB]

Well here's one sorted for you:

President Donald Trump's campaign has dropped the allegation from its federal lawsuit challenging the results of Pennsylvania's election which claimed that hundreds of thousands of ballots in the key swing state had been illegally counted without Republican poll observers present.


Republican election officials confirmed they were allowed to monitor the process and denied any irregularities. Independent fact-checkers have likewise found no evidence to corroborate the Trump Team's allegations.

The campaign quietly dropped the accusation from its lawsuit on Sunday. And Porter Wright, the law firm which filed the legal challenge, withdrew from the case entirely, the campaign's lawyers confirmed in a court filing.

Trump campaign drops claim of blocked poll observers from PA lawsuit

GOP election officials confirmed they were allowed to monitor the process — and they denied any irregularities

www.salon.com

Those pesky bloody facts

 

[FireKrakouer]

It's not just Cult Trump members that have been manipulated.

The Russian disinformation campaign also targeted left leaning people (specifically on the ground of Race), seeking to rile them up and sow discord in the USA.

Some of the leading fake accounts on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook etc were actually purporting to be BLM activists, ANTIFA members and so forth and have been spreading left wing disinformation and encouraging violence and looting as well.

They also encouraged Democrats who are more aligned with Saunders or the Democrat Left not to vote for Clinton or Biden (which of course favours Trump).

It's not just Trumpists that have been manipulated here. The intent was to sow discord, and it succeeded spectacualrly.

LMAO, you deleted my post stating just that and then went and took credit for it for yourself. Go back to exaggerating your military credentials.

If you can't post honestly, why post at all?

PS his name is Sanders, not Saunders. Your cut n paste from Wikipedia betrayed you, again.

 

[Roby]

Voter fraud.

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[SBD Gonzalez]

Not any more mate. Qanon for starters. It's even more batshit crazy than Lizard folk or Chemtrails.

I said any conspiracy theory worth its salt!

 

[sherb]

An oversized wine glass of Karens?

I did a bit of a search for ideas.

A couple I came across were an Entitlement of Karens and a Complaint of Karens.

 

[QuietB]

It's not just Cult Trump members that have been manipulated.

The Russian disinformation campaign also targeted left leaning people (specifically on the ground of Race), seeking to rile them up and sow discord in the USA.

Some of the leading fake accounts on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook etc were actually purporting to be BLM activists, ANTIFA members and so forth and have been spreading left wing disinformation and encouraging violence and looting as well.

They also encouraged Democrats who are more aligned with Saunders or the Democrat Left not to vote for Clinton or Biden (which of course favours Trump).

It's not just Trumpists that have been manipulated here. The intent was to sow discord, and it succeeded spectacualrly.

have you ever listened to this? It is pretty fascinating

RUSSIA | S03 04 - Putin's obsession with crushing the mother of Germany - ABC listen

German leader Angela Merkel was the most powerful woman in the world. Which is why Putin was determined to take her down. His campaign started by playing on her famous fear of dogs... and ended with the biggest migrant crisis the world had seen.

www.abc.net.au

 

[bok_party]

Serious question: could Trump just decide to go full dictator and refuse to remove himself from office and have plenty of yes men do his bidding? Or is that impossible?