VAFA General Discussion 2022-2023-2024

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If they don't have any kind of feeder program they will inevitably die. Its important and vafa should be pushing them to try and get one or something similar up, easier said then done i know but not many players are playing into their 30's anymore. Numbers can fall off very quickly.
The problem for the wicks is the area is majority private schools or kids who already play for Vamps/City. Hard to recruit the kids (25-30??) to start a 19s program when they could go to local prem clubs with established programs
 

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Simply no, unless they have an 11/12 team division. A top five means an extra week of finals which means booking more grounds
We just endured the longest season of all time!
Should be cutting weeks out of the roster preseason is six weeks away!
 
We just endured the longest season of all time!
Should be cutting weeks out of the roster preseason is six weeks away!
We had a 11 team grade in 2022. Playing 20 rounds plus finals plus 2 bye weeks. It was a killer. We were lucky not to play finals that year. Really affect the following season for lots of clubs. Add to the fact that the previous season was the Covid year.
 
Coburg as a club is struggling on the field in the VFL. There is the potential they could join the VAFA full-time if things don't turn around. They do have strong financials off it though.

Sandringham don't exactly make a lot of money out of hosting VAFA finals every year.
a. Coburg would join the NFNL, not the VAFA.
b. Sandringham are funded partially by St Kilda and a well established function centre so don’t necessarily need the finals revenue
c. Coburg have to raise ~$1M per year on their own to reach the VFL minimum standards. The NFNL finals revenue would be a very attractive proposition for them, VAFA would not come close to comparable dollars.
 
a. Coburg would join the NFNL, not the VAFA.
b. Sandringham are funded partially by St Kilda and a well established function centre so don’t necessarily need the finals revenue
c. Coburg have to raise ~$1M per year on their own to reach the VFL minimum standards. The NFNL finals revenue would be a very attractive proposition for them, VAFA would not come close to comparable dollars.
Coburg would move to EDFL if VFL becomes too hard. Need to have a junior program that is viable and thats not VAFA.
Need to start from scratch with players as well. Disaster. There was a Coburg team in Ammos in 70s. Thats where Phil Cleary came from before heading to VFA.
 
If Preston went the same way, I reckon they'd more likely join the NFNL (do they currently have any junior teams?). If they didn't have juniors, there is the option of merging with the Preston Bullants VAFA club.

Is the VAFA club a breakaway from the VFL club in any way?
" Although they are separate entities, Preston AFC maintains close links with the Northern Bullants, who compete as a standalone side in the VFL. Both clubs use the same logo, colours and jumper design, and the Northern Bullants were also known as the Northern Blues from 2012 until 2020.[2]

A number of players have played for both Preston AFC and the Northern Bullants, including many who played for the Northern Bullants in the VFL Development League before that competition was disbanded in 2017.[2]

In 2022, Preston AFC became the first VAFA club to play a curtain-raiser for a VFL club, with the senior women's side hosting Parkside at Preston City Oval before the VFL game between the Northern Bullants and Carlton.[14] "

^ From wikipedia
A bit vague as to whether its a breakaway but it doesn't look like it
 
If Preston went the same way, I reckon they'd more likely join the NFNL (do they currently have any junior teams?). If they didn't have juniors, there is the option of merging with the Preston Bullants VAFA club.

Is the VAFA club a breakaway from the VFL club in any way?

VAFA club grew out of the Preston Bullants JFC in the YJFL. Have always had close ties to the Northern Bullants (same home ground originally, same jumper etc) but not directly affiliated
 
You can understand Division 3 having it this year given the number of clubs. A final 5 with 10 clubs per division could prove problematic.

half of the AFL teams make finals each year. No reason why there can't be top 5 in VAFA. It makes the final home and away rounds far more interesting for the mid table teams. If grounds is the issue, then just play first week of finals at ground of highest place teams.
 

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half of the AFL teams make finals each year. No reason why there can't be top 5 in VAFA. It makes the final home and away rounds far more interesting for the mid table teams. If grounds is the issue, then just play first week of finals at ground of highest place teams.
Season becomes too long.

It would see top 3 grades finishing the week of the AFL grand final.

It’s also rewarding mediocre teams a finals appearance.
 
I noticed they gave out a league B&F award in the Masters, yet I can't find anything on the VAFA website as to who won the Grand Final. The website has the game listed for 3pm on August 18, with only 3 or 4 teams did the league not bother with the GF?

Anyone got any info on this or has the Masters competition died a lonely death?
 
I noticed they gave out a league B&F award in the Masters, yet I can't find anything on the VAFA website as to who won the Grand Final. The website has the game listed for 3pm on August 18, with only 3 or 4 teams did the league not bother with the GF?

Anyone got any info on this or has the Masters competition died a lonely death?
Can't believe that - why do the Masters which is about 4/5 teams only get a VAFA B & F award when thirds/ressies don't? VAFA don't supply VAFA umpires according to the weekly Friday allocation sheet UNLESS the VAFA supply them under the table and others miss out? Suspect Masters are school boy teams so I guess it is the usual >>>> divisional & suburban teams miss out again!
 
If they don't have any kind of feeder program they will inevitably die. Its important and vafa should be pushing them to try and get one or something similar up, easier said then done i know but not many players are playing into their 30's anymore. Numbers can fall off very quickly.
Alright, then lets dismantle Xavier's ability to have three 19s and four Thirds and start incentivising a rounded competition where community clubs are celebrated, rather than punished for actually having a history that doesn't involve just sending mass emails to old boys and setting up recruitment meetings to offer them cushy jobs at Colliers.
 
Alright, then lets dismantle Xavier's ability to have three 19s and four Thirds and start incentivising a rounded competition where community clubs are celebrated, rather than punished for actually having a history that doesn't involve just sending mass emails to old boys and setting up recruitment meetings to offer them cushy jobs at Colliers.
Only a fool thinks strength comes from tearing others down. I know you know that, and you are just posting to draw laughs. SKOB, Xavs, Scotch and other clubs that have grown have done so by hard work and building a culture of respect. Most of their players wouldn't want to play anywhere else.
 
Alright, then lets dismantle Xavier's ability to have three 19s and four Thirds and start incentivising a rounded competition where community clubs are celebrated, rather than punished for actually having a history that doesn't involve just sending mass emails to old boys and setting up recruitment meetings to offer them cushy jobs at Colliers.

District and divisional clubs have the option to leave and a number of them have. The migration to other leagues may well continue until we get to a point where only a select few district clubs remain among the old school clubs and at best there will be four senior grades - A, B, C and Division 1.

Some of the divisional clubs are no doubt watching how the likes of Ivanhoe and Old Paradians fare in their new surroundings into a second and third season and assess alternate options for themselves down the track. Bulleen-Templestowe decided to move this year and others may well follow suit in the near future.

I think that HQ are more interested in the number of teams going out on the field rather than the number of clubs. The Adelaide FL, Perth FL and VAFA love to have their annual dick-measuring exercise of trumpeting how many teams they put on the field and how many players are registered and boast when they are the biggest. I doubt there'd be much consternation from HQ if three divisional clubs left in one year, taking nine teams with them but the current clubs were able to add another 10 Under 19, Thirds and womens teams between them between seasons, because their number of teams would have gone up by one.
 
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Only a fool thinks strength comes from tearing others down. I know you know that, and you are just posting to draw laughs. SKOB, Xavs, Scotch and other clubs that have grown have done so by hard work and building a culture of respect. Most of their players wouldn't want to play anywhere else.
So you think OX having multiple Thirds teams and demanding not to be fixtured against each other is good for the overall health of the competition?
 
Can't believe that - why do the Masters which is about 4/5 teams only get a VAFA B & F award when thirds/ressies don't? VAFA don't supply VAFA umpires according to the weekly Friday allocation sheet UNLESS the VAFA supply them under the table and others miss out? Suspect Masters are school boy teams so I guess it is the usual >>>> divisional & suburban teams miss out again!
Was a 50/50 split between Old Boys and District clubs. Was a shambles this year. One club pulled out early in the piece and forfeits happened regularly. Probably time they scrapped it and let those with an appetite for over 35s to return to the previous comp.
 
Was a 50/50 split between Old Boys and District clubs. Was a shambles this year. One club pulled out early in the piece and forfeits happened regularly. Probably time they scrapped it and let those with an appetite for over 35s to return to the previous comp.
Biggest growth in VAFA football is Thirds. Most teams have enough resources.

No provided umpires, no boundaries. Only need one timekeeper.

Water boys usually are players turning their jumpers inside out.

Not playing for sheep stations until the finals.

Clubs agree to shorten games if the numbers are low.

Fun had by all.

Let OX have 4 teams in separate grades. They lost 2 of the 4 grand finals.

We started 4 weeks late. Still were able to join.
 
So you think OX having multiple Thirds teams and demanding not to be fixtured against each other is good for the overall health of the competition?
As long as there are sections enough to cover multiple teams, what is the problem? (Apart from other clubs deciding it's all too hard playing against them and pulling a forfeit?)

As it transpired in 2024, there were six Thirds sections. Old Xavs won only two of these flags, and I'm told neither was easy.
 

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