Vale Gentleman Jim - Pay your respects in this thread

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Jim's gone and we cannot mourn him adequately. For to do that we'd have to tear down the MCG, and furl the Grand Old Flag, never more to fly it. We'd have to thank Mr. Brownlow for his services and send him on his way, for who could be better? Who could be fairer?
He's gone, like Crimmo, like Ted, he fell to f***ing cancer. Like them he'll never be forgotten. But he's still gone, and we wish we still had him with us, to cheat death for one more day. And another. And another.
God bless and keep you, Mr. Stynes, and may your wife, your children, your relatives, friends, and all those that you helped, and all those that admired you find solace in your stainless memory, and in your deeds, that do not die with you.
They say that you lost the battle against cancer. I say that you never lost any battle that you fought.
 
Jim's gone and we cannot mourn him adequately. For to do that we'd have to tear down the MCG, and furl the Grand Old Flag, never more to fly it. We'd have to thank Mr. Brownlow for his services and send him on his way, for who could be better? Who could be fairer?
He's gone, like Crimmo, like Ted, he fell to f***ing cancer. Like them he'll never be forgotten. But he's still gone, and we wish we still had him with us, to cheat death for one more day. And another. And another.
God bless and keep you, Mr. Stynes, and may your wife, your children, your relatives, friends, and all those that you helped, and all those that admired you find solace in your stainless memory, and in your deeds, that do not die with you.
They say that you lost the battle against cancer. I say that you never lost any battle that you fought.

Absolutely beautiful, close to tears again.
 
I wont be able to go sadly - maybe there is something us that will be interstate that can do or show some sort of support on that day?

Ive been racking my brain as to what we can do to honour him generally - but nothing I think of fits or isn't too corny or...
 
As I looked upon your face
I saw the wonder of God’s grace
Once again, whole at last
No more suffering, your life raced past

Then all was quiet and completely still
Peace at last, no longer ill
I remembered the memories that we shared
Our deep and meaningfuls, how much you cared

I used to visit, though hard it was
I watched you slip away, our Jim almost lost
Watching glints of recognition in your eyes
Crying with joy when it took me by surprise

You didn’t deserve that cruel disease
It brought us completely to our knees
The years were robbed, it wasn’t right
Up to the end, I watched you fight

Jim, I smile when I think of you
But your loss has made me sadder
Jim, it doesn’t matter about the past
But I'll never forget that mark you took at the Gabba.
 
I'm a cancer survivor and when a brave soldier goes down, believe me, it's utterly shattering. I can only imagine Jim's brutal confrontation with mortality, and the pain and loss experienced by those around him must be dreadful.

Deepest, deepest condolences to all of Jim's family and friends, Melbourne Football Club, members and supporters, and all who were touched by a good and honourable man.
 
Might get flack for this, but IMO there has been way too much media attention on his death. Let him rest in peace, I'd reckon he'd be embarrassed by all of this. I haven't seen this much outpouring of grief in a long, long time. It's as if a decorated war hero had died, or someone of Churchill's stature.

Sorry to say this, but what has this person really done apart from be a decent ex-footballer, save a football club from financial ruin and headed a charity? He's had absolutely no impact on my life, and as much as his passing was heartfelt and sad, I think his reputation grew after his death. There's been like six pages of him the past couple of days, whereas people dying in Syria and the troubles there have only a page in the middle. Some perspective is needed here.

Really, how is Jim Stynes more important than any other person? I see him as a humble man, he probably would have wanted a more quieter mourning. But a state funeral, televised? Who was he, Churchill??

I mean no disrespect, but I think the death of one man does not deserve as much attention as it is getting. Especially when there are other people just as good as hm dying out there.
 

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Might get flack for this, but IMO there has been way too much media attention on his death. Let him rest in peace, I'd reckon he'd be embarrassed by all of this. I haven't seen this much outpouring of grief in a long, long time. It's as if a decorated war hero had died, or someone of Churchill's stature.

Sorry to say this, but what has this person really done apart from be a decent ex-footballer, save a football club from financial ruin and headed a charity? He's had absolutely no impact on my life, and as much as his passing was heartfelt and sad, I think his reputation grew after his death. There's been like six pages of him the past couple of days, whereas people dying in Syria and the troubles there have only a page in the middle. Some perspective is needed here.

Really, how is Jim Stynes more important than any other person? I see him as a humble man, he probably would have wanted a more quieter mourning. But a state funeral, televised? Who was he, Churchill??

I mean no disrespect, but I think the death of one man does not deserve as much attention as it is getting. Especially when there are other people just as good as hm dying out there.

For me he will be sorely missed.

So I'll start the count and see if anyone else comes on board. +1.
 
Might get flack for this, but IMO there has been way too much media attention on his death. Let him rest in peace, I'd reckon he'd be embarrassed by all of this. I haven't seen this much outpouring of grief in a long, long time. It's as if a decorated war hero had died, or someone of Churchill's stature.

Sorry to say this, but what has this person really done apart from be a decent ex-footballer, save a football club from financial ruin and headed a charity? He's had absolutely no impact on my life, and as much as his passing was heartfelt and sad, I think his reputation grew after his death. There's been like six pages of him the past couple of days, whereas people dying in Syria and the troubles there have only a page in the middle. Some perspective is needed here.

Really, how is Jim Stynes more important than any other person? I see him as a humble man, he probably would have wanted a more quieter mourning. But a state funeral, televised? Who was he, Churchill??

I mean no disrespect, but I think the death of one man does not deserve as much attention as it is getting. Especially when there are other people just as good as hm dying out there.

Time and place. Right here, he is a prominent football identity whose death is relatable to a collection of diehard football fans. Although your words are articulate, doing so in this thread is no different to being a dissenting voice on a facebook tribute page. It just doesn't fit and doesn't need to be discussed in this thread.

Almost every time somebody passes on, there will have be somebody else that has died more tragically, that is more befitting of tribute. By this measure, nobody should ever pay tribute to anybody ever again.

On this occasion, the subject does not pass the significance test in your opinion, but you have to realise it is your opinion and many people do not think the way you think.

Exactly what do you gain by questioning this, aside from stating your opinion which was unsolicited and not required given the subject matter?

Live and let live.
 
+2

how do I answer that post without going all emotional and angry...

I will repost something I put in the Melbourne board whilest I couldn't sleep last night & put in another forum and retweaked it for the time of day...

Last night I was up till 2, it was pouring with rain outside and its symbolises how I feel right now. I can't believe how something we knew was coming still hurts so much and how someone you never met can touch you like Jimmy did

I was on the Overland heading home to Adelaide when I found out of his passing - I knew what was said the night before and I was hoping for a miracle but sadly it wasn't to be...or was it?

I feel that the real miracle is he was still around for longer than no one could of imagined and that we knew him in the first place. That he did come half way across the world on a wing and a prayer to try out a foreign game, had the courage of his convictions to stick around when he was lambasted for that error in 87 and stay when many who came with him went back. That he became the champion player who won the Brownlow and win us over in the process. To give everything to save his club, to give everything of himself to those who needed it and inviting us into his world when he was at his darkest moments just to give people he never met a chance to find inspiration.

To me THAT is the miracle and it always will be...

His Brownlow win was one of my earliest memories as a footy fan. I loved the way he played and how he showed incredible spirit to stick around when he was told to go back home. He change the game as he was the first of the mobile ruckman we see today. He blazed the trail for all of the Irish players as well as for anyone from a different background or culture who are here and will continue to play. As a lioness I have seen Pearce Handley and Niall McKeever come over and grow into the potential to become future club champions and to help us get back to the success we once had - that is because of Jimmy and I am indebted to him for that and grateful for him shaping how I love my footy.

His selflessness, his compassion, his strength and his humour is what I admire as a person. We can use the word 'champion' or 'great' or 'hero' or 'legend' but the truth is it is not enough - it doesn't do him justice....and nothing probably will. Born and Bred a Demon but now a Saint.

Hope that helps
 
From the Herald Sun....
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Might get flack for this, but IMO there has been way too much media attention on his death. Let him rest in peace, I'd reckon he'd be embarrassed by all of this. I haven't seen this much outpouring of grief in a long, long time. It's as if a decorated war hero had died, or someone of Churchill's stature.

Sorry to say this, but what has this person really done apart from be a decent ex-footballer, save a football club from financial ruin and headed a charity? He's had absolutely no impact on my life, and as much as his passing was heartfelt and sad, I think his reputation grew after his death. There's been like six pages of him the past couple of days, whereas people dying in Syria and the troubles there have only a page in the middle. Some perspective is needed here.

Really, how is Jim Stynes more important than any other person? I see him as a humble man, he probably would have wanted a more quieter mourning. But a state funeral, televised? Who was he, Churchill??

I mean no disrespect, but I think the death of one man does not deserve as much attention as it is getting. Especially when there are other people just as good as hm dying out there.

I articulated a response, but I'll just say this:

Footballer who broke records for courage, philanthropist who gave his time to anyone who asked and also volunteered and gave his money. Save the oldest football club in the world from extinction with his enthusiasm and vigour.

Always got to be that (^) bloke, eh?

Imo it is a reflection of the respect the public has for Jim that it took a day and a half to get the very first nay-sayer.

Also, this
 
Foot Tickler's post is well articulated, reasoned and to be honest I can see where he may be coming from (would Jim Stynes have been embarassed by this? Perhaps, since he seems to be a very humble and modest man who never sought the iindividual spotlight unless it was about Reach or the Dees)

But it's still out of place in this topic and as they say, 'too soon'. People deserve to grieve in whatever way they see fit and it's better for all concerned to let the mourning process go on and not question whether the mourning is deserved. It borders on offensive in my view, although I suppose he has the right to hold that opinion.
 
Jim's gone and we cannot mourn him adequately. For to do that we'd have to tear down the MCG, and furl the Grand Old Flag, never more to fly it. We'd have to thank Mr. Brownlow for his services and send him on his way, for who could be better? Who could be fairer?
He's gone, like Crimmo, like Ted, he fell to f***ing cancer. Like them he'll never be forgotten. But he's still gone, and we wish we still had him with us, to cheat death for one more day. And another. And another.
God bless and keep you, Mr. Stynes, and may your wife, your children, your relatives, friends, and all those that you helped, and all those that admired you find solace in your stainless memory, and in your deeds, that do not die with you.
They say that you lost the battle against cancer. I say that you never lost any battle that you fought.

Absolutely beautiful, close to tears again.

bringing me to tears too :(
 
I am not going to criticise Foot Tickler for wondering what is so special about Jim Stynes. In my tribute many pages back I suggested that a state funeral was appropriate given Jim's status in the state of Victoria. I think though that Tickler would see what I saw in him if he had been privileged to witness Jim work a group of 60+ kids and the ability he had to get them up and talking about what had gone wrong with their lives. He did not merely 'head up a charity' but played a leading role in running the program. Young people with whom I was involved really thought highly of him and knew that he genuinely cared about them.

I have worked in the welfare field, as a Student Welfare Coordinator in St Albans and with kids in state care. I never had a fraction of the impact he had on troubled young people, and not just because I was not a famous footballer. Jim never hid behind his football fame. He was just a dedicated, caring and humble person doing his best for the young people who attended his meetings in large numbers. I knew how difficult connecting with these kids could be and believed Jim had a special gift in dealing with troubled youth. The fact that he was Irish yet dedicated himself to assisting Australian kids also impressed me and many others.

I would compare the impact of Jim's death with that of Princess Diana. When she died it was quickly obvious that vast numbers of people were very upset at her passing, a surprising number of people mourned her loss around the world. Jim's death has similarly affected people, so much so that a state funeral was quickly announced so that Victorians who respected and loved the man could participate in the funeral.

Jim may not have impacted your life, but he has left a lasting impression with a large percentage of Victorians. His public battle with cancer has touched people. I rarely cry but the last two days I have found myself tearing up every time I read, see or hear anything about Jim's death. He was a genuinely good person and the only footballer I can recall in my life time whose death has so greatly affected people.
 

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