Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 4 - thread rules updated

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This is the thread for discussing the War in Ukraine. Should you want to discuss the geopolitics, the history, or an interesting tangent, head over here:


If a post isn't directly concerning the events of the war or starts to derail the thread, report the post to us and we'll move it over there.

Seeing as multiple people seem to have forgotten, abuse is against the rules of BF. Continuous, page long attacks directed at a single poster in this thread will result in threadbans for a week from this point; doing so again once you have returned will make the bans permanent and will be escalated to infractions.

This thread still has misinformation rules, and occasionally you will be asked to demonstrate a claim you have made by moderation. If you cannot, you will be offered the opportunity to amend the post to reflect that it's opinion, to remove the post, or you will be threadbanned and infracted for sharing misinformation.

Addendum: from this point, use of any variant of the word 'orc' to describe combatants, politicians or russians in general will be deleted and the poster will receive a warning. If the behaviour continues, it will be escalated. Consider this fair warning.

Finally: If I see the word Nazi or Hitler being flung around, there had better have a good faith basis as to how it's applicable to the Russian invasion - as in, video/photographic evidence of POW camps designed to remove another ethnic group - or to the current Ukrainian army. If this does not occur, you will be threadbanned for posting off topic

This is a sensitive area, and I understand that this makes for fairly incensed conversation sometimes. This does not mean the rules do not apply, whether to a poster positing a Pro-Ukraine stance or a poster positing an alternative view.

Behave, people.
 
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T-55's, WW2 artillery, North Korean soldiers, pensioner recruits, old motors. But yeah, Russia's stockpiles of good weapons are endless, so we (the West) are wasting time supporting Ukraine.

The US are getting good ROI from this. They've proved the superiority of their weaponry, leading to more sales, whilst simultaneously exhausting Russia's supply of arms.

So long as the Ukranian people want to fight to defend their land that is.
 

The largest European nations are ready to support Ukraine if the new US administration decides to halt aid for Kyiv, said Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski following the Warsaw summit, DoRzeczy reports.

According to Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski, the participants agreed that Europe must take greater responsibility for its security, including a more balanced distribution of NATO defense spending.
 

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The largest European nations are ready to support Ukraine if the new US administration decides to halt aid for Kyiv, said Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski following the Warsaw summit, DoRzeczy reports.

According to Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski, the participants agreed that Europe must take greater responsibility for its security, including a more balanced distribution of NATO defense spending.
I think once donny get his feet under the table at the WH you will see a reduction in the amount of arms that the US will give to Ukraine as we all know Putin has donny in his pocket
 
Earlier, Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov said Ukrainian manufacturers produced 100 missiles this year and successfully scaled up the serial production of R-360 Neptune cruise missiles.

The supply of Taurus, a German-Swedish air-launched cruise missile system with a range of about 500 kilometers, could significantly enhance Ukraine’s long-range strike capabilities in its defensive war against Russian aggression.
 
What critical metals does Ukraine have that either Canada or the US itself cannot provide?
Not going to lie, Ukrainian metal is not my specialty, but Google tells me the list includes:

Drudkh

Nokturnal Mortum

SINOPTIK

Hell: on

Scarleth

I'm confident they'd tour the US if there was a market
 
You’re adamant that nothing will happen?

💯 confident ?
That Putin/Russia wont launch a nuclear weapon after ATACMS are launched at Russian military targets, just like he hasn't launched a nuclear weapon when he claimed he would after the 100 other "red lines" have been crossed?

I'm 100% confident it wont happen. World will continue to revolve and western leaders made to look stupid again for not acting earlier.
 
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According to Reddit (pinch of salt and everything) the USA mines have a timer in them so they fail to go off because of someone stepping on them, they'll naturally just go off making post-war clean up easier
Read something similar elsewhere. That they either self destruct or lose battery power to render them inactive within weeks. So using them purely on or near frontlines would mean a very low chance of civilians being exposed.
 

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