West Coast Eagles Priority Pick (2024)

[Dom sheed pocket]

No way. they had a chance to split their pick 1 to get multiple picks but chose not. They had a chance to make a serious play on Luke Jackson

9

Luke Jackson

Age

23

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

3star

K

3.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

and only had Luke warm offers for him. they deserve to sit on those decisions for a couple of years.

The argument against going hard for Luke Jackson was we had needs all over the ground and had to split pick 2, which turned in to Ginbey and Hewett.

You’re simultaneously saying we shouldn’t have split the pick and gotten Jackson instead, while also saying we should have split our first then next year and not taken Reid.

You’re being logically inconsistent.

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

Again, yes, there are two distinct sets of rules.

One for clubs that get “AFL assistance” and those who do not.

Quote:
“The new guideline mandates a maximum six-month settlement to any sacked coach at an AFL-funded club regardless of the length of his contract.”

Link:

AFL insists on six-month payout clauses for coaches

New guidelines to AFL-funded clubs limits payouts regardless of the length of contracts. But the coaches' association believes it gives incompetent boards a ''get-out-of-jail-free'' card.

amp.theage.com.au

Those different rules allowed GCS to sack Dew with 2 years left on his contract and Saints to sack Brett Ratten before his new contract had even started with a maximum pay out of 6 months or around 400K.

That option wasn’t available to west coast as it is not an assisted club.

In combination with the salary cap tax, which is incredibly punitive west coast was looking at millions in taxes ro afl on top of the payout.

In future, you really should look for this stuff yourself, before you talk about something you clearly don’t know about.

It’s really not that hard. Village idiot by name, and village idiot by nature.

Hang on what….you post an “age” article as evidence?!?!….well then, I’ll apologise.

can’t be bothered with this.

So….regardless of the above….

Maybe respond to the remainder of my requests?
Such as why the amazing board signed him for 5 years….or does that not suit your answer.

Yet the same board would be neglect to sack him….because it costs too much money….oh dear!!

In summary mate, your club fcked up big time by signing him. Even more so if they knew those supposed rules.
If that’s the case (which I doubt)…your board is even more inept!

So Why would the AFL bail them out?

It’s amazing the coach says “he’s the man” isn’t it?!?

Yet here you are fighting me over the rules instead of your club!

Nothing here says you should get assistance. Enjoy reaping what you’ve sown!!
I really don’t have anything else.

Ps. Maybe don’t go a poster unless you understand what they do….but so far you have proven zero in your quest to absolve the eagles.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Hang on what….you post an “age” article as evidence?!?!….well then, I’ll apologise.

can’t be bothered with this.

So….regardless of the above….

Maybe respond to the remainder of my requests?
Such as why the amazing board signed him for 5 years….or does that not suit your answer.

Yet the same board would be neglect to sack him….because it costs too much money….oh dear!!

In summary mate, your club fcked up big time by signing him. Even more so if they knew those supposed rules.
If that’s the case (which I doubt)…your board is even more inept!

So Why would the AFL bail them out?

It’s amazing the coach says “he’s the man” isn’t it?!?

Yet here you are fighting me over the rules instead of your club!

Nothing here says you should get assistance. Enjoy reaping what you’ve sown!!
I really don’t have anything else.

Ps. Maybe don’t go a poster unless you understand what they do….but so far you have proven zero in your quest to absolve the eagles.

I’m not doing anything except revealing that a) you’re not engaging in good faith, and b) you have very little knowledge.

I’m not here to do your work for you. If you’re disputing what I’m saying -make a counter claim and find evidence to back your point of view.

What you’ll find is the different rules for assisted and non-assisted clubs are well known. A simple google search will help you out before you make spurious claims that make you look ignorant.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

lol west coast won 10 games in 2021

more games than north has won in 2021, 2022 and 2023

Lost 7 of our last 9 in 2021.

Any application for a priority pick will include 2024,2023,2022 and last 9 games of 2021.

At the moment that tallies 7 wins, 49 losses + 2024 result.

Looking at 7-8 wins over 3.5 seasons.

That’s worse than Norths 4 seasons 2020-2023.

 

[the big lebowski]

Lost 7 of our last 9 in 2021.

Any application for a priority pick will include 2024,2023,2022 and last 9 games of 2021.

At the moment that tallies 7 wins, 49 losses + 2024 result.

Looking at 7-8 wins over 3.5 seasons.

That’s worse than Norths 4 seasons 2020-2023.

“Any application for a priority pick will include …….. the last 9 games of 2021”

lol ok

 

[Kanye West]

The Eagles sold the farm for Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

and now the chickens have come home to roost!

They gave up what they had just 4 years ago and now people are saying they need help to fix up their mistakes, GTFOOH!

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

“Any application for a priority pick will include …….. the last 9 games of 2021”

lol ok

Of course it would.

More to the point, why are you so hell bent on excluding it?

It’s a part of the current losing run.

 

[random260]

The Eagles sold the farm for Tim Kelly and now the chickens have come home to roost!

They gave up what they had just 4 years ago and now people are saying they need help to fix up their mistakes, GTFOOH!

People keep saying that but that's not an argument

Tim Kelly is our
1. Best mid
2. Best mid under 29

So I'm not so sure that's an argument. Would you prefer us to replace our best mid with 2 specaltive players under 22?

 

[mattwa]

They shouldn't get bailed out for terrible decisions. They also won a flag 6 years ago but since then have literally made the most arrogant and stupid list management decisions.

Assume they will poach some good playerd soon with the war chest of cash they have

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

I’m not doing anything except revealing that a) you’re not engaging in good faith, and b) you have very little knowledge.

I’m not here to do your work for you. If you’re disputing what I’m saying -make a counter claim and find evidence to back your point of view.

What you’ll find is the different rules for assisted and non-assisted clubs are well known. A simple google search will help you out before you make spurious claims that make you look ignorant.

Oh god….did you even read the article you posted?!?
Seriously. You’re looking like an absolute fool.

The article says the afl mandates the 6 month clause for teams they fully fund. Not that it’s only for their teams.

….so your club didn’t mandate it?!?
But that’s on me isn’t it.

Mate. Stop going me.
If you do….read the article you post before quoting I know nothing.

So I’ll ask again..there aren’t two rules are there?
More that the AFL adds something to cover off poor governance.

 

[blinkd]

As another poster said, North was bottom two for a total of four seasons so perhaps West Coast will have to wait until the end of 2025. Funny, being one of the most successful AFL clubs and about to endure their third poor season and supporters are clamouring for assistance.

 

[TomEmilioDavies]

about to endure their third poor season and supporters are clamouring for assistance.

I mean, it's not just poor though, is it.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

As another poster said, North was bottom two for a total of four seasons so perhaps West Coast will have to wait until the end of 2025. Funny, being one of the most successful AFL clubs and about to endure their third poor season and supporters are clamouring for assistance.

North got assistance in 2022 based off their three previous seasons.

West Coasts last 3 seasons by the end of 2024 will be substantially worse than norths.

North currently won 4.5 more games than west coast 3 seasons 2020-2022.

Doubt West coast win 4.5 games to get even with north.

I agree with you though. Many west coast supporters not coping very well with their current position in the AFL food chain

 

[danster168]

The argument against going hard for Luke Jackson was we had needs all over the ground and had to split pick 2, which turned in to Ginbey and Hewett.

You’re simultaneously saying we shouldn’t have split the pick and gotten Jackson instead, while also saying we should have split our first then next year and not taken Reid.

You’re being logically inconsistent.

yes, but Jackson is more of a need. A young guaranteed superstar with no go home factor. Why couldn't you split the pick 2 you had, offered us one of those picks and then gone for Jackson with a Godfather offer?

We got offered next to nothing from Freo, it was a very simple trade to win him over. Especially if you backed it up with serious money. People saying 'he was always going to freo' is just self soothing language. The reality is West Coast were speaking to Jackson's management during trade week for a reason.

 

[VicBased]

As another poster said, North was bottom two for a total of four seasons so perhaps West Coast will have to wait until the end of 2025. Funny, being one of the most successful AFL clubs and about to endure their third poor season and supporters are clamouring for assistance.

And Freo supporters enjoy feeding on the carcass.

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

yes, but Jackson is more of a need. A young guaranteed superstar with no go home factor. Why couldn't you split the pick 2 you had, offered us one of those picks and then gone for Jackson with a Godfather offer?

We got offered next to nothing from Freo, it was a very simple trade to win him over. Especially if you backed it up with serious money. People saying 'he was always going to freo' is just self soothing language. The reality is West Coast were speaking to Jackson's management during trade week for a reason.

Agree 100%.
Look I’m the first to admit I don’t know….but eagles don’t seem to be trading/drafting for a fast return.
Lots of decisions I don’t understand.

 

[TomEmilioDavies]

If you think it can't get any worse, what's gonna happen when our senior players retire?

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

yes, but Jackson is more of a need. A young guaranteed superstar with no go home factor. Why couldn't you split the pick 2 you had, offered us one of those picks and then gone for Jackson with a Godfather offer?

We got offered next to nothing from Freo, it was a very simple trade to win him over. Especially if you backed it up with serious money. People saying 'he was always going to freo' is just self soothing language. The reality is West Coast were speaking to Jackson's management during trade week for a reason.

I think Jackson was trying to do the right thing but even his manager said he was always inclined to go to Freo.

I’d argue Jackson isn’t more of a need. I’m very happy that we took Ginbey and Hewett over jackson, even if Jackson is a star.

 

[the big lebowski]

Of course it would.

More to the point, why are you so hell bent on excluding it?

It’s a part of the current losing run.

you can’t include part of a season. It’s the whole season or nothing.

Regardless, you’ll get what north got in 2022 this year, and assuming you’re uncompetitive next year, you’ll get what we got in 2023.

Just like it should be

 

[brutus76]

AFL need a competitive WCE by the time the Tassie concessions happen so they'll get some picks they have to trade you would think

Experienced WA kids OOC or with 1 year left like Dev Robertson, Brandon Starcevich

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Brandon Starcevich

Age

25

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.2

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

185.3

3star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

187.9

3star

D

8.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

181.2

3star

, Matt Guelfi

35

Matt Guelfi

Age

27

Ht

184cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.2

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

G

0.0

1star

D

17.2

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.2

3star

, Grainger-Barass as those 21-25yo players for the come home factor give em overs on $

Need to throw the farm and then some at Logan McDonald and Warner

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

you can’t include part of a season. It’s the whole season or nothing.

Regardless, you’ll get what north got in 2022 this year, and assuming you’re uncompetitive next year, you’ll get what we got in 2023.

Just like it should be

Based on w/l and % we are far worse 2022-2024 than north were in 2020-2022.

North
2020 17th 3W 14L 71.2%
2021 18th 4W 1D 17L 70.3%
2022 18th 2W 20L 55.8%

West Coast
2022 17th 2W 20L 59.8%
2023 18th 3W 20L 53.0%
2024* 18th 0W 3L 42.8%

North 9W 1D
West Coast 5 wins*

Difference of more than 4 wins with a far lower percentage.

 

[quotemokc]

Somehow WCE were worse than 2016 Essendon.

They still shouldn't get any priority picks

 

[danster168]

I think Jackson was trying to do the right thing but even his manager said he was always inclined to go to Freo.

I’d argue Jackson isn’t more of a need. I’m very happy that we took Ginbey and Hewett over jackson, even if Jackson is a star.

it's highly unlikely that even Ginbey and Hewett combined will reach the heights of Jackson.

 

[JGreezy]

The offers made were substantially to low to be considered seriously.
Pick 3 and 2 low brow offers were not enough but that has been discussed ad nauseum.
And Jackson was never going to come to us.

Lol...

One second North are getting huge assistance packages that are unfair because they are so valuable

The next minute the idea of getting two picks that are better than any of North's assistance picks are considered not worth the "difference" between Reid and McKercher or Sanders (both of whom are as good as Reid in my opinion, and based on performance over the last 18 months)

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

it's highly unlikely that even Ginbey and Hewett combined will reach the heights of Jackson.

Jackson wouldn’t be doing the things he’s currently going at Freo in our team.

Ruck is position that doesn’t correlate strongly with success anyway.

Most premiership teams have a decent workhorse the ruck, not a rolls
Royce.

In terms of investment of resources, draft picks and salary, it makes little sense.