What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 2

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He never wanted to sack Clarkson. He mused that maybe it was time he moved on to freshen up (after he had finished his term as president). The media beat it up.

I'd highly doubt Clarkson has the final say in list management.
Media beatup ???

he rang a radio station half cut after the Cats had once again beaten the Hawks (after he made the stupid statement after the 2008 flag) and said that Clarkson should be sacked. Not sure how you can claim a media beat up.

The bloke is a fool and always has been and I am certain Clarkson was responsible for the Hawks success not that clown whose ego has always dwarfed his intellect.
 
Media beatup ???

he rang a radio station half cut after the Cats had once again beaten the Hawks (after he made the stupid statement after the 2008 flag) and said that Clarkson should be sacked. Not sure how you can claim a media beat up.

The bloke is a fool and always has been and I am certain Clarkson was responsible for the Hawks success not that clown whose ego has always dwarfed his intellect.
He wasn't there after 2011, so doesnt get any credit for the threepeat and if he had his way there wouldn't have been any more clarko or a threepeat
 
WESTERN Bulldogs ruckman Jordan Roughead rolled the dice with his long-term health when he took part in the 2016 Grand Final.

The risks he took and the hard conversations he had, have been revealed in a new book published this month.

Roughead sustained a hyphema (blood pooling in the front of the eye) during the preliminary final win over Greater Western Sydney and his availability as the Bulldogs sought to end their 62-year premiership drought was a talking point.

In a chapter about AFL club doctors in the book, People of the Boot, The Triumphs and Tragedy of Australian Jews in Sport, it's been revealed Bulldogs doctor Jake Landsberger called an 8am meeting on Grand Final morning to inform Roughead of the risks he faced if he played that day.

Also in attendance at the meeting at the Brighton surgery of leading eye specialist Andrew Atkins was Roughead’s partner Bridget Davies, and the Bulldogs’ other club doctor, Gary Zimmerman.

After a final examination, Roughead was cleared to play. But then came the home truths.

“It could have bled again,” Jake Landsberger recalled. “One risk was permanent eye damage and the second was that if he bled again, he would instantly be taken out of the Grand Final, like he was in the preliminary final the week before.

Roughead told everyone in the room that he would play, irrespective of the risk. He said he didn’t care about the threat of permanent damage, nor of any discomfort during the match.

“If I end up losing sight in my eye then I’ll be a true one-eyed Bulldogs’ supporter,” he said.

Roughead was also reminded that he wouldn't be able to avoid being monitored during the game. The doctors would be on to him.

“I said to Jordan, every time you sit on the bench, and at every change, we’ll be looking at your eye and we can tell if you’re bleeding. You don’t have to tell us,” Landsberger said.

Roughead ended up not just playing but taking a key mark in the final quarter as the Bulldogs finally wrested the ascendancy from Sydney before winning by 22 points.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-24/bulldog-reveals-he-risked-eyesight-in-flag-win
 

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“We would love to have him. It doesn’t feel right to me that he is not at Collingwood. In these days when 25 per cent of the kids in the draft will go to clubs through zones and academies the grandson of probably the strongest family tie in the history of the AFL-VFL doesn’t go to that club. [It] doesn't feel right,” McGuire said

Have you ever read anything else so entitled in your life?

“I like seeing families in football, I would like to see a brothers rule where brothers play together – I think the Brayshaws should all be playing together at North where their dad was on the board and their uncle was president. We saw Tom Phillips and his brother Ed playing against one another last week.

As long as it suits, and in no way disadvantages Collingwood of course.

“At the moment the way the rules are if my sons were good enough to be drafted they couldn’t go to Collingwood despite 20 years as unpaid president but if I was in the draft I’d be in a zone to a club because my dad is Irish and my mum Scottish. That's the way it is."

I'm sure you'll whinge until the rules are changed to suit yourself and Collingwood of course.
 
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“Beveridge shouldn’t have the final say precisely because he gets the chop if it goes belly up”

The reason you are providing for him not having the final say is that he might be sacked if his strategy doesn’t work.

I think I precisely captured your point, and it wasn’t a good one.

Ideally the person responsible for the on field strategy should make the decision about personnel. It should be decision making that is as well informed as possible and he/she should back the judgement of their staff, but the decision stops with them.


Dude! Don't poke the bear!
 
Its clearly time that the AFL bought in a rule that any club perfunctory should be tied to the club that his father/grandfather/uncle had ever worked or volunteered at. In event of said son turning into a gun, It would be all the better if that rule could be enforced as an retrospective compulsory acquisition.
 

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Its clearly time that the AFL bought in a rule that any club perfunctory should be tied to the club that his father/grandfather/uncle had ever worked or volunteered at. In event of said son turning into a gun, It would be all the better if that rule could be enforced as an retrospective compulsory acquisition.
Haha that comment about his own sons was ludicrously naive wasn't it. If a rule like that was introduced, the rush of the big wealthy clubs to hand the parents of the best teenagers in the land a paid role in the years leading up to their draft eligibility would be something to behold.
 
I liked the bit where they mentioned that pick 6 was too early for Ed yet he has played more games already than the kid they did pick
Edit might have got that wrong actually
Well the pick the chose was the correct one. Stephenson will be a superstar, pick 6 was way too early for Ed.
 
Well the pick the chose was the correct one. Stephenson will be a superstar, pick 6 was way too early for Ed.
Yeah double checked after i posted, for some reason I was thinking about that Murphy kid the took a bit later
 
It doesn't feel right that he's not at Collingwood, but it felt right to pass on him with their first pick last year.

Lucky for us Eddie can't have it both ways :)

He does know that if you want a player in the draft but don't want to take him too early then you can always trade players for picks right?
 
Well the pick the chose was the correct one. Stephenson will be a superstar, pick 6 was way too early for Ed.
I would say its way to early to say pick 6 was way to early for Ed.

Stephenson looks great but Ed goes alright and by all reports he was trending upwards throughout last year and still appears to be.
 
Roughead told everyone in the room that he would play, irrespective of the risk. He said he didn’t care about the threat of permanent damage, nor of any discomfort during the match.
“If I end up losing sight in my eye then I’ll be a true one-eyed Bulldogs’ supporter,” he said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-24/bulldog-reveals-he-risked-eyesight-in-flag-win
That is bloody gold!
Love that he did that for us and played a pivotal role in the flag.
I 100% would have made the same choice.
 
“We would love to have him. It doesn’t feel right to me that he is not at Collingwood. In these days when 25 per cent of the kids in the draft will go to clubs through zones and academies the grandson of probably the strongest family tie in the history of the AFL-VFL doesn’t go to that club. [It] doesn't feel right,” McGuire said

Have you ever read anything else so entitled in your life?

“I like seeing families in football, I would like to see a brothers rule where brothers play together – I think the Brayshaws should all be playing together at North where their dad was on the board and their uncle was president. We saw Tom Phillips and his brother Ed playing against one another last week.

As long as it suits, and in no way disadvantages Collingwood of course.

“At the moment the way the rules are if my sons were good enough to be drafted they couldn’t go to Collingwood despite 20 years as unpaid president but if I was in the draft I’d be in a zone to a club because my dad is Irish and my mum Scottish. That's the way it is."

I'm sure you'll whinge until the rules are changed to suit yourself and Collingwood of course.
I actually completely agree with Eddie there, apart from the brothers part.

If Chris Grant has a grandson playing for Collingwood, it would suck.
 
I actually completely agree with Eddie there, apart from the brothers part.

If Chris Grant has a grandson playing for Collingwood, it would suck.
I also agree with Eddie that second and third and fourth generation direct relatives of players should be included under the father/son rule. That several kids lately could have either been drafted by Collingwood under the father/son rule, or could have at least been drafted by Collingwood but weren't, doesn't help his argument though. Liam Picken, James Stewart, Ed Richards...
 
I also agree with Eddie that second and third and fourth generation direct relatives of players should be included under the father/son rule. That several kids lately could have either been drafted by Collingwood under the father/son rule, or could have at least been drafted by Collingwood but weren't, doesn't help his argument though. Liam Picken, James Stewart, Ed Richards...
I'm in the same boat. Love the romanticism of playing for your fathers/mothers/grandfathers etc club. Life members of clubs (players OR admin staff) should have a rule enforced imo.

The brothers' thing is interesting but would never work in reality.
 
I actually completely agree with Eddie there, apart from the brothers part.

If Chris Grant has a grandson playing for Collingwood, it would suck.

I know where you're coming from, I was more having a dig at McGuire and his 'as long as it suits Collingwood, the rest of you can get stuffed' mindset.
 
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