Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 21

[Bokan]

Carlton with have a honeymoon period, I mean until round 6 Carlton don’t leave the state of Victoria, will have 4 games at the G and one at Spencer St.

Round 4 - gold coast vs Carlton at Metricon, so you are a couple weeks off

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[Enviable Tradition]

How totally depressing watching what Voss has managed to achieve at the Blues in 1 preseason compared to 10 years of Ken.

Their centre clearance work and structures is absolutely top notch.

Their ball movement from defence is excellent with fast and open movement into the forward line.

Their key forwards are given space to move and lead at the ball carrier.

The complete opposite of our game plan and exactly what we have been asking for for years.

It’s just amazing that every single other club managed to have an open and free forward line and yet that has been impossible for us to achieve in a decade.

To be fair Ken was like that early.

The opposition coaches just put an extra man behind the ball for us to rush at and he had no plan B.

Time will tell if Voss does.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

I only just saw that the Crows dropped Thilthorpe and Milera.

2 great white hopes in one week. I would have thought that was front page news.

 

[Tibbs]

How totally depressing watching what Voss has managed to achieve at the Blues in 1 preseason compared to 10 years of Ken.

Their centre clearance work and structures is absolutely top notch.

Their ball movement from defence is excellent with fast and open movement into the forward line.

Their key forwards are given space to move and lead at the ball carrier.

The complete opposite of our game plan and exactly what we have been asking for for years.

It’s just amazing that every single other club managed to have an open and free forward line and yet that has been impossible for us to achieve in a decade.

And yet Voss was universally panned & derided by most here on Bigfooty!

 

[Doctor Feel]

And yet Voss was universally panned & derided by most here on Bigfooty!

Is this supposed to be some weird "got ya!"? because all it's doing is justifying how bad hinkley is and how right we are.

 

[PJ Power]

I just miss seeing forwards lead aggressively at the ball carrier and mark it out in front of their eyes.
I’d love to see us do that again.

 

[PowerBaz]

Round 4 - gold coast vs Carlton at Metricon, so you are a couple weeks off

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Ah thought it was Marvel..

 

[El_Scorcho]

We don't lead at the ball carrier because our entire gameplan is based around stopping our opponents from hitting us on the rebound. We set up our forward entries to stop intercept marks and rebounding, not to score. Scoring, we feel, is a byproduct of the ball being in our forward 50. That's been our plan since 2017 at least, and we've tried differing versions of it but the underlying strategy is the same. That's almost certainly why Bassett is our forwards coach and not, you know, someone who understands forwardline strategy and likes goals being scored.

We played the flood and slingshot in 2014, frightened the crap out of teams who then ended up playing +2 in defence against us for a couple of years to grind us out, and then we kicked the ball directly down the throat of opposition intercept markers so often that it broke something in Hinkley and Bassett's brains and now our 1st and only plan is to prevent the rebound.

Given that, we're actually pretty good at doing that. Our press is excellent and we intercept mark very, very well in general. Our defenders are good at playing in a team defence unit and they're all pretty good at winning 1 on 1 contests in general.

But it really doesn't allow our forwards to be successful, talls especially. Charlie Dixon

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Charlie Dixon

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.7

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.6

5star

D

10.5

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.5

2star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

G

2.5

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

might have been one of the best key forwards in the league over the past 5 years in a team that made space for him. The only reason it's worked at all is because we've had some genius small forwards who can create their own opportunities and finish them.

 

[Steve Dore]

... We set up our forward entries to stop intercept marks and rebounding, not to score. ...

We'll at least the not scoring part is working.

 

[tribey]

Is this supposed to be some weird "got ya!"? because all it's doing is justifying how bad hinkley is and how right we are.

Tibbs gunning for Janus’ mantle of deliberately obtuse failure justification.

 

[El Zorro]

And yet Voss was universally panned & derided by most here on Bigfooty!

Number of premierships for Voss as a coach: 0

Getting a bit ahead of yourself?

 

[tribey]

Number of premierships for Voss as a coach: 0

Getting a bit ahead of yourself?

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TBA? When will Gil learn that the competition is expanded enough as it is!

 

[JimmyBC]

Voss becoming the messiah after 1 match & a 3 screen text-in from the couch is slightly perplexing.

 

[Marmozet]

West Coast in a bit of trouble this weekend.

 

[Doctor Feel]

West Coast in a bit of trouble this weekend.

lol literally because of the covid 0 they went for now all of them are getting it at once.

 

[Sleezy]

Voss becoming the messiah after 1 match & a 3 screen text-in from the couch is slightly perplexing.

Well Carlton haven't gone 2-0 since Ratten, so he's done something new.

 

[El Zorro]

lol literally because of the covid 0 they went for now all of them are getting it at once.

same as SA in November/December I suppose.

 

[tribey]

Voss becoming the messiah after 1 match & a 3 screen text-in from the couch is slightly perplexing.

Yeah, he’s clearly got massive cache with today’s players as his personal record speaks for itself — would be a huge boost on the training ground hearing him praise you for something while you’re busting a gut during a 38 degree January training session, and all that.

But, I’m keen to know a bit more about the guys around him. For starters, he has Andrew Russell as fitness coach. Massive advantage.

Who are his line coaches? Maybe this is his gameplan? They certainly look more expressive than old faithful and his catenaccio sidekick.

 

[JimmyBC]

The thing I won't be able to stomach this year is the Tibbs type supporters talking up drudging wins over inferior opposition which the Hawthorn game looms as being.

 

[simba_]

West Coast in a bit of trouble this weekend.

I Blame Jack Darling

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Glenelg Junior: St Kilda draftee suspended over car accident

 

[Nemisis]

To have McKay in your forward line. Gun.

I know you have to be near the bottom of the ladder to snag McKay type talent but sooner or later we need to invest in quality talls in the draft. Was Marshall the last first rounder we have taken in the draft? (was Lobbe the one before that!!!)

 

[simba_]

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trying to figure out if this is worse than hinkleystardust.jpg

 

[Doctor Feel]

lol Carlton gonna overtake us. Funny because of the confidence in them and the falling confidence in us.