Prediction Changes and pre match discussion vs Adelaide.

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I don’t think we’ll play any rookies immediately after picking them unless it’s an absolute need. Especially if coming from interstate

It would be almost impossible for an interstate draftee to play for us this week (Florenca, if taken at our second pick, is a possibility).

Draft is on Wednesday night (4:30pm western, 6:30pm eastern). By the time we sort out logistics with a player from interstate they wouldn't fly until Thursday at the absolute earliest. We will also fly out Thursday as we play Saturday.

I guess if it is Carmichael then technically we could just get him to stay in Adelaide... but still a debut seems unlikely.
 

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It would be almost impossible for an interstate draftee to play for us this week (Florenca, if taken at our second pick, is a possibility).

Draft is on Wednesday night (4:30pm western, 6:30pm eastern). By the time we sort out logistics with a player from interstate they wouldn't fly until Thursday at the absolute earliest. We will also fly out Thursday as we play Saturday.

I guess if it is Carmichael then technically we could just get him to stay in Adelaide... but still a debut seems unlikely.
Its harden up time for WC softies. Its a 4 hour flight.
 
Its harden up time for WC softies. Its a 4 hour flight.

Not sure if that is sarcasm, but (assuming we pick a east-coast-player) you would have them take a 1-2 hour flight to Adelaide to meet their team-mates and debut 2 days later?

Or even worse, fly them to Perth, to meet team-mates at the airport then board a plane back to Adelaide?

If round 11, 2022 is the be-all-and-end-all of our club then I suppose we do that, but drafting for the future just pick Culley then get him across to settle in (not even sure if he would play WAFL... ideally yes, but it is a quick turnaround).
 
Not sure if that is sarcasm, but (assuming we pick a east-coast-player) you would have them take a 1-2 hour flight to Adelaide to meet their team-mates and debut 2 days later?

Or even worse, fly them to Perth, to meet team-mates at the airport then board a plane back to Adelaide?

If round 11, 2022 is the be-all-and-end-all of our club then I suppose we do that, but drafting for the future just pick Culley then get him across to settle in (not even sure if he would play WAFL... ideally yes, but it is a quick turnaround).
Bit of both - sarcasm and fed up with the club. Its only a two hour flight (max) to Adelaide. Whats the worry, we lose a bit of synergy and their full back kicks a goal?

Off post but in relation to JK, I think he should retire mid season. He is filling a spot to help the team and that is magnificent. But we owe him more that this and he sould be alowed to ove on with dignity. I alsio dont think its great for kids to see players unable to run playing.
I note several dogs defenders scored freely so the blame isnt with JK but with the team.
 
Bit of both - sarcasm and fed up with the club. Its only a two hour flight (max) to Adelaide. Whats the worry, we lose a bit of synergy and their full back kicks a goal?

Off post but in relation to JK, I think he should retire mid season. He is filling a spot to help the team and that is magnificent. But we owe him more that this and he sould be alowed to ove on with dignity. I alsio dont think its great for kids to see players unable to run playing.
I note several dogs defenders scored freely so the blame isnt with JK but with the team.

Look, I'm not part of a professional sporting organisation (some would say that current West Coast staffers aren't part of a professional organisation either...) - but I assume their worries would be injury, treatment of an employee that we want to stick around for more than a few months, integration into the team, on-field performance and general professionalism as a club (those are in order of priority).

We do tend to laugh around here about selecting injured or injury prone players - but regardless we should absolutely give any selected player a medical prior to sending them on the field for their first match. What if (insert any random unknow injury here) sidelines them for months when if picked up early (I know, no trust that we do that) it would have been a week or two.

Basically, the dream is to get a gun this week and they debut Saturday - that just isn't going to happen. They may well be a gun, but we won't see them for a few weeks due to bye's etc. Florenca is the obvious difference - as he's been in the environment and is based in Perth already (but, hopefully, he is our 2nd pick not our 1st).
 
Why wouldn't whoever we intend to pick at number 1 be in Perth now? They "wrapped up" pick 1 yesterday, get the kid on a plane today or tomorrow.
 

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Look, I'm not part of a professional sporting organisation (some would say that current West Coast staffers aren't part of a professional organisation either...) - but I assume their worries would be injury, treatment of an employee that we want to stick around for more than a few months, integration into the team, on-field performance and general professionalism as a club (those are in order of priority).

We do tend to laugh around here about selecting injured or injury prone players - but regardless we should absolutely give any selected player a medical prior to sending them on the field for their first match. What if (insert any random unknow injury here) sidelines them for months when if picked up early (I know, no trust that we do that) it would have been a week or two.

Basically, the dream is to get a gun this week and they debut Saturday - that just isn't going to happen. They may well be a gun, but we won't see them for a few weeks due to bye's etc. Florenca is the obvious difference - as he's been in the environment and is based in Perth already (but, hopefully, he is our 2nd pick not our 1st).
You share my wife's sense fo humour it seems

None. (she says its me)
 
Look, I'm not part of a professional sporting organisation (some would say that current West Coast staffers aren't part of a professional organisation either...) - but I assume their worries would be injury, treatment of an employee that we want to stick around for more than a few months, integration into the team, on-field performance and general professionalism as a club (those are in order of priority).

We do tend to laugh around here about selecting injured or injury prone players - but regardless we should absolutely give any selected player a medical prior to sending them on the field for their first match. What if (insert any random unknow injury here) sidelines them for months when if picked up early (I know, no trust that we do that) it would have been a week or two.

Basically, the dream is to get a gun this week and they debut Saturday - that just isn't going to happen. They may well be a gun, but we won't see them for a few weeks due to bye's etc. Florenca is the obvious difference - as he's been in the environment and is based in Perth already (but, hopefully, he is our 2nd pick not our 1st
I could observe that. most of our BOG performances have come forom players that met the team the day prior.

If WC was professional - full time athletes would not be fat - regarrless of injuries, they would not be fat. The 2km time trial efforts are good recreational time at best - well short of a full time professional standard in a endurance /power based sport.

I am not impressed with the club. Humour is a generous deflection from the truth.
 
Explain to me how Kennedys direct opponent kicked 2 goals on him. It’s because Kennedy is cooked. Our whole season is cooked.

If Dixon has a future in our forward line why don’t we start finding out? He kicked half the Beagles score on the weekend. Kennedy won’t be there to free Darling up next season.
Here's what is takes to win a flag:

You need a forward line with a Reiwoldt/Lynch or Brown/McDonald or Kennedy/Darling.

OA is one of those. Dixon is not. We will probably draft a top 10 pick in the next 2 seasons who we hope to be the other one. In the meantime Darling can be the guy. Dixon can pinch hit. Maybe we draft someone in the MSD who can play there for a bit until the top 10 pick is ready.

We sort of already know Dixon is not going to be Max King.
 
Here's what is takes to win a flag:

You need a forward line with a Reiwoldt/Lynch or Brown/McDonald or Kennedy/Darling.

OA is one of those. Dixon is not. We will probably draft a top 10 pick in the next 2 seasons who we hope to be the other one. In the meantime Darling can be the guy. Dixon can pinch hit. Maybe we draft someone in the MSD who can play there for a bit until the top 10 pick is ready.

We sort of already know Dixon is not going to be Max King.
I’m sure Dixon might be capable of reaching the dizzy heights of a over the hill Brown or Tom McDonald. Riewoldt was on his own for Richmonds first flag.
 
I’m sure Dixon might be capable of reaching the dizzy heights of a over the hill Brown or Tom McDonald. Riewoldt was on his own for Richmonds first flag.
Maybe, maybe not. Well unlikely actually. But what's the rush? We're going to draft a top 10 KPF. May work out, may not. But when they do work out, they're usually better than Dixon.
 
Maybe, maybe not. Well unlikely actually. But what's the rush? We're going to draft a top 10 KPF. May work out, may not. But when they do work out, they're usually better than Dixon.
The rush is that we’ve got half a season left for guys like Dixon to show their wares before they face the chopping block.
 
WARNING ON POSSIBLE FINES AND PUNISHMENTS

Dom Sheed's wife and Luke Shuey's wife were with other wags at Nabor and IIII - a bar and popular restaurant in Oxford Street on Sunday. They posted it on Instagram. This is about 100 metres north from the Hip E Club and I suspect they will be returning to live with husbands and thereby bringing unnecssary COVID infections to the club.

That is how it works isn't it? A common rule for all players and no exemption for credits in the bank.

I suspect Luke Shuey will miss the Adelaide trip as it is the second happening of such a Leederville event and our captain's wife should know better.
 
I'm going to be in Adelaide next weekend, I've never been to Adelaide oval.... and that's the only reason I can come up with to make me want to go.

I heartily recommend it if you've never been, it's a great ground. The standing section behind the goals is a nice grassy bank, like at the WACA back in the day.

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The rush is that we’ve got half a season left for guys like Dixon to show their wares before they face the chopping block.
This concept is a bit of myth. It changes depending on where on the flag clock you are. It's typically of supporters to malign the weakest players. No matter what the team, the level of the team, and the player. The weakest link cops it as if it's going to make a difference. You can't trade Nelson, Witherden, Masten etc out for an A-grader. It's just not possible. The weakest player in the 22 very rarely loses games or premierships. It's the top end that decide who wins and loses.

So when you're in the flag window everyone is jumping over each other to lick their monitor and rage at why we don't delist some spud whose played 20-30 games and isn't best 22; The reason we don't is because every team has a salary cap and you need a few guys who you are paying f-all so you have enough to pay Judd, Cuzzy, Kerr, Cox etc.

When you're on the bottom of the ladder there's even more monitor licking and rage going on. Just check this board. Most people want to delist half the team. But who do you replace them with? The answer is: top draft picks BUT these are limited. If you can trade a few players out, great, but everyone wants to trade out the spuds. No other teams want to recruit said spuds. So you can delist Dixon and have 12 picks in the draft but how are you going to be able to play 18 year olds drafted in the 80's and 90s?

The cold hard truth is Dixon is just not going to be Kennedy or Lynch or Hawkins. We're looking for that player and he's likely to be at the pointy end of the draft. Dixon will do his season or two, get delisted and replaced by a high draft pick and another speculative pick/trade.

We we build our team in the draft over the next 3-4 years. There's no burning rush to churn and burn a guy we know probably won't make it. Turning it on in the next 15 matches is certainly beyond him and probably any other discard.
 
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