List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 5

[tigs2010]

Mr Magic was the first one to break daicos to the tiges

Hahaha ffs

 

[RockJobster0312]

Hi everyone, pardon the intrusion. Currently working on a little project for the main board and I was hoping to grab the names of any ITK posters here on the Tigers board. Cheers.

I also have a ton of respect for what Grockadoc provides on occasion. As well as the previously mentioned Tiger71 .

 

[bc27]

Out of contract in many ways works against us. If we can’t get a deal done for Taranto I suspect he would re-sign with GWS. If not, he’d be up for grabs in the pre-season draft where we’d have to hope that teams don’t select him before we do.

The benefits of Taranto being out of contract are overstated on these forums in my opinion.

Also, Taranto was a pick 2 six years ago. We seem to forget that fact when we state pick so-and-so is overs. Taranto as a pick 2 stacks up as one of the better performing pick 2’s in recent years. The chances that anyone at 12 or 19 that we’d select would out perform Taranto is low.

If 12+19 is overs, what’s the deal that isn’t AND realistically gets a deal done?

In terms of Hopper, I don’t think you separate the picks unless you’re actually confident of the Hopper deal getting over the line. I suspect that as its more complicated it’ll fold into another deal involving GWS (Bedford, Bruhn, Hill with all teams involved having other deals that will be required to be facilitated first).

By the sounds of it is that 12&19 aren’t the only picks we will give up for Taranto aswell.

 

[docko911]

Lambo misses expecting a child please be a boy

Any chance she is tall? A 6’2 Lambo would be the GOAT

 

[Tiger Toffee]

This years draft actually is pretty good. Anyone that watched the Vic metro Vs Vic country final would say there’s at least 10 players alone out of that game that will be very very good afl players and 4-5 possible future stars.

12+19 is very much overs for Taranto who is out of contract anyway! Not a great deal by Richmond and could potentially struggle to get the hopper deal done because of this overpay.

It's absolutely a great deal and the Hopper deal is getting done.

I must admit im surprised it wasn’t just bundled as I would say the weight of picks made it more likely to get done. Not 100% confident we get Hopper done. I am confident in Balir Hartley though and if it doesn’t get done it’s due to the fact GWS ask is a bit high.

Why are you not 100% confident, the Hopper deal has more than likely been agreed upon. You don't offer long contracts to entice a player to come to your club if you are going to struggle to get a deal done.

People need to stop over thinking these things.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

 

[docko911]

Does anyone else think 12 and 19 is overs for Taranto becouse he's out of contract or is it just me?

I don’t think it is. Being out of contract means little in the AFL unless you are the bottom team.

Picks in the 10s are often hit and miss, and we’ve had a pretty average run in recent years.

Taranto was pick 2. He’s a very good player that has already won a best and fairest. He’s been playing in a team that’s been a rabble since he won the B&F and he has had some injury issues. He only turns 25 at the start of next year so his best is yet to come. Pick 12 and 19 is a bargain.

 

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Crow fan melting on Trade Radio about chasing Rankine instead of Horne-Francis.

Pissed about Stengle leaving and becoming an AA.

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[Karp3_dm]

 

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Future 2nd?

We're sending them that to get him off our list

 

[Kegs]

This week is going to be more interesting than the season.. Actual state of the game

 

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[richoatthedisco]

media has never been wrong

Aren't you melting over a media report?

This years draft actually is pretty good. Anyone that watched the Vic metro Vs Vic country final would say there’s at least 10 players alone out of that game that will be very very good afl players and 4-5 possible future stars.

Name them.

 

[tigerfan1961]

By the sounds of it is that 12&19 aren’t the only picks we will give up for Taranto aswell.

Perhaps we should just show some patience and wait and see what the deal is before fretting. Blair is good at what he does and any deal will be fair based on the player market amongst clubs.
Just remember, we aren’t Freo or the bummers

 

[Noidnadroj]

If GWS have salary cap issues, how does bringing in 2 more players help that when Toby Bedford (Melb) has requested a transfer to GWS?

They offered TT $650k a year for 4 years which he rejected… so that money is now available.
Plus Hopper was contracted for 2023 I assume on around $600k …. That’s also available. So that’s $1.25m they had if needed that’s now freed up.

The biggest reason for their clean out of cap is to
allow them to secure Tom Green and Callaghan on long-term deals next year … they are the future of GWS.


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[Noidnadroj]

Blair Hartley is very smart for separating the TT and Hopper trades. TT is OOC so he is leaving no matter what. He is also the superior player to Hopper, so it’s sound management to just lock this one in our back pocket early.

Hopper is different. Hopper’s other potential destination Geelong are now balls deep into a bunch of other trades (Bruhn, Henry, Bowes?), so they are no longer in the frame for Hopper. And I don’t recall any other teams being a candidate for him either.

So we have way more bargaining power in the Hopper deal than we did a week ago as we are his only potential home. And if GWS dig their heels in then guess what …. we can call their bluff and he can stay at GWS and cost them $600k they could have used to pre-pay some more of Whitfield or Coniglio etc….

He won’t stay at GWS as we will do the right thing by him, but GWS know how awesome clearing out $600k from other long-term deals would be for their future, knowing Hopper is going to leave anyway end of 2023.

So it’s a great decision to keep TT separate from Hopper in case Hopper gets messy by GWS demanding the world. And worst case we can walk away from Hopper and get him for free end of 2023, or just bypass him altogether - if it’s because GWS demand a ridiculous trade then Hopper will be fuming with them, not us.


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[Marcel Proust]

They offered TT $650k a year for 4 years which he rejected… so that money is now available.
Plus Hopper was contracted for 2023 I assume on around $600k …. That’s also available. So that’s $1.25m they had if needed that’s now freed up.

The biggest reason for their clean out of cap is to
allow them to secure Tom Green and Callaghan on long-term deals next year … they are the future of GWS.


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Until they request trades to tigerland

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

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[prodigy]

 

[sanaya]

there's the doozy

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Blair Hartley is very smart for separating the TT and Hopper trades. TT is OOC so he is leaving no matter what. He is also the superior player to Hopper, so it’s sound management to just lock this one in our back pocket early.

Hopper is different. Hopper’s other potential destination Geelong are now balls deep into a bunch of other trades (Bruhn, Henry, Bowes?), so they are no longer in the frame for Hopper. And I don’t recall any other teams being a candidate for him either.

So we have way more bargaining power in the Hopper deal than we did a week ago as we are his only potential home. And if GWS dig their heels in then guess what …. we can call their bluff and he can stay at GWS and cost them $600k they could have used to pre-pay some more of Whitfield or Coniglio etc….

He won’t stay at GWS as we will do the right thing by him, but GWS know how awesome clearing out $600k from other long-term deals would be for their future, knowing Hopper is going to leave anyway end of 2023.

So it’s a great decision to keep TT separate from Hopper in case Hopper gets messy by GWS demanding the world. And worst case we can walk away from Hopper and get him for free end of 2023, or just bypass him altogether - if it’s because GWS demand a ridiculous trade then Hopper will be fuming with them, not us.


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Yep.By satisfying GWS with the TT deal,They'll be more receptive too the Hopper deal in our favor imo.

 

[daird]

Time to cancel the Tarantula and Hooper trades, here's our big fish.

 

[tigs2010]

severely concerned that tarranto is not a tiger yet

its been a whole hour

My understanding is Day 1 they make each club meet with one another even though they've been doing it for 12 months. Theatre

 

[All Aust]

We can lose all our picks this year and wouldnt care if we land these two we are in it upto our eyeballs next year, we took 5 picks last year then you got idiots like buckawho saying s**t like we are in trouble with this trade need to take kids lol, the hate is real, love it. \m/

Agree, Strategy appears that the list management wanted and had big investment in last years draft for kids. This year it's about recruitment of senior players, hard body, mid twenties, to address the top end list age.

 

[Wrenny]

We have an hour folks, it's 9:20am here in Qld atm.