I meant more his Carlton strategy of going after giants players who weren’t any good. Also his 2014 draft was Espescially shockingGWS got lots of talent through, they just couldn't hold on to them. Carlton got more right with their high picks than anyone at the Saints has done for years. Dow was their only real bomb out high pick under him. Their top ups were an issue, they kept trying to fast track by bringing in players like us but managed to nail their first rounders to off set it. They were further down the ladder for a lot of it though.