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91.3 have been interviewing a few of the young guys recently and turns out Ginbey is a Freo fan. Hopefully he's drafted East and comes back to us in a few years rather than going to the slime.
The slime will take him at 9 if he is there
 
Best result for him is one that is actually on the cards and tipped by a few so called experts which is Ginbey to GCS at whatever their pick turns out to be. A few years there and then a pre-agent trade back home to live out the rest of his life happily in purple under the feet of DarJack.
 
Strange saying Richmond are a threat. Richmond don’t have a pick in the top 40 and we now have three picks before they enter the draft and could easily match with pick 67.

We wouldn’t want to be matching more than one NGA player.

None of ours are going inside our first three selections in most people’s opinion.

If we rate them say 1. Draper 2. Williams 3. Scaife then we’ll happily match a bid for Draper but probably won’t for the other two. We’d be hoping they get to Category B rookie stage and we’ll jump on it then.
 
Getting that Essendon pick 22 would be a dream but we would likely need to give them 30, 43 and 44 in exchange.
I’d do it.
Should get a long term player with pick 22, it’s almost a late first rounder.
 
Getting that Essendon pick 22 would be a dream but we would likely need to give them 30, 43 and 44 in exchange.
I’d do it.
Should get a long term player with pick 22, it’s almost a late first rounder.

That pick would need to end up being a very good player or we will end up completely blowing the draft
 
Getting that Essendon pick 22 would be a dream but we would likely need to give them 30, 43 and 44 in exchange.
I’d do it.
Should get a long term player with pick 22, it’s almost a late first rounder.
No way would I do that. Better off having 3 cracks and hoping to fluke one of them. Unless it is someone like Hewett or Allan and we have them rated super high, but in that case the bid would have to come specifically at 21, as WC have 20 and could take who we want.

Might be a moot point, as I reckon no bids will come before Essendon's 22. I bet GWS won't bid (15, 18, 19) just because, and I doubt the Dogs will (21) with Weightman on their list. Same goes for Melbourne (13), Sydney (14, 17), and Collingwood (16) who have the small forward position covered. WC probably just stick with their WA guys. Perhaps the Pies the most likely, as they have a few picks just after Essendon and might do it to jump a spot.

Remember that Freo are the only ones who get someone bid on ahead of schedule (Henry). Generally teams just can't be bothered and ignore the player that is not a need and/or they know they won't get anyway.
 

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Remember that Freo are the only ones who get someone bid on ahead of schedule (Henry). Generally teams just can't be bothered and ignore the player that is not a need and/or they know they won't get anyway.
This is a good point, and as we know the Henry bid was a tactical bid by Carlton rather than a genuine attempt to recruit him.

Motlop was drafted within his range but also deliberately ahead of when he became available to us via NGA.
 
Ya.

Mind you none of them seem to be projecting as before pick 40.

On paper a KPF, KPD, and a wing/hb is kind of ideal.

It really is isn't it! On paper its perfect for our list needs. If they develop to the point they can play at the top level comfortably then what a boon for us if we are able to land them outside 40 or to the rookie list.
 
No way would I do that. Better off having 3 cracks and hoping to fluke one of them. Unless it is someone like Hewett or Allan and we have them rated super high, but in that case the bid would have to come specifically at 21, as WC have 20 and could take who we want.

Might be a moot point, as I reckon no bids will come before Essendon's 22. I bet GWS won't bid (15, 18, 19) just because, and I doubt the Dogs will (21) with Weightman on their list. Same goes for Melbourne (13), Sydney (14, 17), and Collingwood (16) who have the small forward position covered. WC probably just stick with their WA guys. Perhaps the Pies the most likely, as they have a few picks just after Essendon and might do it to jump a spot.

Remember that Freo are the only ones who get someone bid on ahead of schedule (Henry). Generally teams just can't be bothered and ignore the player that is not a need and/or they know they won't get anyway.
Henry wasn’t too far above his projected range. Green should have been bid on before Henry. So pick 10 start of his range for mine (10-17) should have been where he was selected. Carlton were buying time and deliberately selected him first knowing we would take full allotment of time for obvious reasons. There was a reason we paid a price to get pick 8 before Carlton. We suspected they would bid on Henry.

The problem was we should have bid on Green at 8. If we did all it would have done is push Serong to 9, and Henry to 10 and we likely would have selected Chapman at 13 instead of 14 the next year.

People forget we didn’t actually give up pick 9 we gave up a F2 and bunch of late picks (49, 52, 55, 58, 73). One of the late picks we then got back after matching the bid with all those picks we used to select Frederick.

So was essentially

Pick 9 (Henry) & Pick 61 (Frederick);
FOR
F2 (2020 pick 38), 49, 52, 55, 58, 66 and a slight slide in 2020 draft.
 
Henry wasn’t too far above his projected range. Green should have been bid on before Henry. So pick 10 start of his range for mine (10-17) should have been where he was selected. Carlton were buying time and deliberately selected him first knowing we would take full allotment of time for obvious reasons. There was a reason we paid a price to get pick 8 before Carlton. We suspected they would bid on Henry.

The problem was we should have bid on Green at 8. If we did all it would have done is push Serong to 9, and Henry to 10 and we likely would have selected Chapman at 13 instead of 14 the next year.

People forget we didn’t actually give up pick 9 we gave up a F2 and bunch of late picks (49, 52, 55, 58, 73). One of the late picks we then got back after matching the bid with all those picks we used to select Frederick.

So was essentially

Pick 9 (Henry) & Pick 61 (Frederick);
FOR
F2 (2020 pick 38), 49, 52, 55, 58, 66 and a slight slide in 2020 draft.
It has been documented that they bid on Green after Henry because they wanted to keep good relations with GWS for future trades.
 
We wouldn’t want to be matching more than one NGA player.

None of ours are going inside our first three selections in most people’s opinion.

If we rate them say 1. Draper 2. Williams 3. Scaife then we’ll happily match a bid for Draper but probably won’t for the other two. We’d be hoping they get to Category B rookie stage and we’ll jump on it then.
I'd have Scaife at 1.
 
Henry wasn’t too far above his projected range. Green should have been bid on before Henry. So pick 10 start of his range for mine (10-17) should have been where he was selected. Carlton were buying time and deliberately selected him first knowing we would take full allotment of time for obvious reasons. There was a reason we paid a price to get pick 8 before Carlton. We suspected they would bid on Henry.

The problem was we should have bid on Green at 8. If we did all it would have done is push Serong to 9, and Henry to 10 and we likely would have selected Chapman at 13 instead of 14 the next year.

People forget we didn’t actually give up pick 9 we gave up a F2 and bunch of late picks (49, 52, 55, 58, 73). One of the late picks we then got back after matching the bid with all those picks we used to select Frederick.

So was essentially

Pick 9 (Henry) & Pick 61 (Frederick);
FOR
F2 (2020 pick 38), 49, 52, 55, 58, 66 and a slight slide in 2020 draft.
Sliding from 10 to 14 or whatever it was isn't a slight slide. Sliding from 40 to 44 is a slight slide. We hit the jackpot with Chapman so it didn't matter, but it could have been a dud move.
 
Sliding from 10 to 14 or whatever it was isn't a slight slide. Sliding from 40 to 44 is a slight slide. We hit the jackpot with Chapman so it didn't matter, but it could have been a dud move.
Fair call. It was a compromised draft with 2 x free agency compo, 2 x early bids and a priority pick (which we were placed directly in front of). In point terms it was 245 which is equivalent to pick 52 but we know a slide of 3-4 spots in the top 15 is worth a second round pick.

Anyway the point I was trying to make is we didn’t pay pick 9. We paid a collection of a couple of 2nds and a couple of 3rds with change.
 
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Henry wasn’t too far above his projected range. Green should have been bid on before Henry. So pick 10 start of his range for mine (10-17) should have been where he was selected. Carlton were buying time and deliberately selected him first knowing we would take full allotment of time for obvious reasons. There was a reason we paid a price to get pick 8 before Carlton. We suspected they would bid on Henry.

The problem was we should have bid on Green at 8. If we did all it would have done is push Serong to 9, and Henry to 10 and we likely would have selected Chapman at 13 instead of 14 the next year.

People forget we didn’t actually give up pick 9 we gave up a F2 and bunch of late picks (49, 52, 55, 58, 73). One of the late picks we then got back after matching the bid with all those picks we used to select Frederick.

So was essentially

Pick 9 (Henry) & Pick 61 (Frederick);
FOR
F2 (2020 pick 38), 49, 52, 55, 58, 66 and a slight slide in 2020 draft.

Twomey had the inside mail and had Henry going at 18 after a bid from Geelong. Carlton did it out of spite / time management after we took their targets. If they hadn't bid, Henry would have gone a lot later.

I'm not sure we paid a price to get ahead of Carlton. My memory was it was Melbourne who were posturing/threatening to select Henry at 8 while we were holding pick 10. This made us pay up to give up pick 10 + 28 for their 8 and jump ahead of them. Worked out well with Serong, and also worked well for Melbourne, as they had no real intention of ever taking Henry and took their man Pickett and then had an extra pick to take Rivers.
 
Twomey had the inside mail and had Henry going at 18 after a bid from Geelong. Carlton did it out of spite / time management after we took their targets. If they hadn't bid, Henry would have gone a lot later.

I'm not sure we paid a price to get ahead of Carlton. My memory was it was Melbourne who were posturing/threatening to select Henry at 8 while we were holding pick 10. This made us pay up to give up pick 10 + 28 for their 8 and jump ahead of them. Worked out well with Serong, and also worked well for Melbourne, as they had no real intention of ever taking Henry and took their man Pickett and then had an extra pick to take Rivers.
Maybe. Or maybe Carlton told Twomey that out of spite. Doesn't matter anyway. Bell has already said he was going to match any bid for Henry, even a higher one.
 
Sliding from 10 to 14 or whatever it was isn't a slight slide. Sliding from 40 to 44 is a slight slide. We hit the jackpot with Chapman so it didn't matter, but it could have been a dud move.
It could have been a dud move having pick 10 as we might not have taken Chappy & ended up with an inferior player.
 

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