List Mgmt. 2022 Young Talent Time

[Docker4eva]

Jed Hagan could stay in WA as Fremantle looms as suitor in AFL national draft​

Jake Santa MariaGeraldton Guardian
Fri, 28 October 2022 8:00AM

Jed Hagan runs out for the WAFL league debut for East Fremantle Credit: P ELLIOTT

With the AFL draft now just one month away, many are already predicting what the order will look like and for Geraldton fans, Jed Hagan could end up staying in WA.
Reuben Ginbey is the top WA draft prospect and is expected to be snapped up inside the top 10 and possibly as high as pick 6 with reports Gold Coast are keen on the under-18 championships WA MVP.
Hagan was one of the other few bright spots in that tournament for WA which saw his draft stocks greatly improve.
However, Hagan missed the combine earlier in the month because of injury, denying him the opportunity to show his stuff in front of the talent scouts over east.
This has seen him drop into the late second or third-round draft slots, which could see him stay inside his home State with both the Herald Sun and ESPN putting him between picks 30 and 45.
Fremantle don’t enter the draft until pick 30 which they will likely use on the best remaining tall option to cover the loss of Rory Lobb

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and Lloyd Meek.
But Hagan could come in at their next pick at 44 with teams wary of drafting out-of-state prospects given the strong go-home factor over the recent seasons, particularly for Brisbane and GWS who have six picks in the range.
The small utility is highly rated for his speed and reliability with ball in hand with the ability to swing from midfield to the forward half.

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[pK75]

Jed Hagan could stay in WA as Fremantle looms as suitor in AFL national draft​

Jake Santa MariaGeraldton Guardian
Fri, 28 October 2022 8:00AM

Jed Hagan runs out for the WAFL league debut for East Fremantle Credit: P ELLIOTT

With the AFL draft now just one month away, many are already predicting what the order will look like and for Geraldton fans, Jed Hagan could end up staying in WA.
Reuben Ginbey is the top WA draft prospect and is expected to be snapped up inside the top 10 and possibly as high as pick 6 with reports Gold Coast are keen on the under-18 championships WA MVP.
Hagan was one of the other few bright spots in that tournament for WA which saw his draft stocks greatly improve.
However, Hagan missed the combine earlier in the month because of injury, denying him the opportunity to show his stuff in front of the talent scouts over east.
This has seen him drop into the late second or third-round draft slots, which could see him stay inside his home State with both the Herald Sun and ESPN putting him between picks 30 and 45.
Fremantle don’t enter the draft until pick 30 which they will likely use on the best remaining tall option to cover the loss of Rory Lobb, Griffin Logue and Lloyd Meek.
But Hagan could come in at their next pick at 44 with teams wary of drafting out-of-state prospects given the strong go-home factor over the recent seasons, particularly for Brisbane and GWS who have six picks in the range.
The small utility is highly rated for his speed and reliability with ball in hand with the ability to swing from midfield to the forward half.

Clearly Jake Santa Maria has no idea what he’s talking about as Brisbane’s picks will all be used for Ashcroft and GWS likely won’t even use their picks in that range.

 

[Purple Suit]

Jed Hagan could stay in WA as Fremantle looms as suitor in AFL national draft​

Jake Santa MariaGeraldton Guardian
Fri, 28 October 2022 8:00AM

Jed Hagan runs out for the WAFL league debut for East Fremantle Credit: P ELLIOTT

With the AFL draft now just one month away, many are already predicting what the order will look like and for Geraldton fans, Jed Hagan could end up staying in WA.
Reuben Ginbey is the top WA draft prospect and is expected to be snapped up inside the top 10 and possibly as high as pick 6 with reports Gold Coast are keen on the under-18 championships WA MVP.
Hagan was one of the other few bright spots in that tournament for WA which saw his draft stocks greatly improve.
However, Hagan missed the combine earlier in the month because of injury, denying him the opportunity to show his stuff in front of the talent scouts over east.
This has seen him drop into the late second or third-round draft slots, which could see him stay inside his home State with both the Herald Sun and ESPN putting him between picks 30 and 45.
Fremantle don’t enter the draft until pick 30 which they will likely use on the best remaining tall option to cover the loss of Rory Lobb, Griffin Logue and Lloyd Meek.
But Hagan could come in at their next pick at 44 with teams wary of drafting out-of-state prospects given the strong go-home factor over the recent seasons, particularly for Brisbane and GWS who have six picks in the range.
The small utility is highly rated for his speed and reliability with ball in hand with the ability to swing from midfield to the forward half.

Brisbane have six picks in the range, all of which will be gone in the first or second pick of the night.

 

[Docker82]

Brisbane have six picks in the range, all of which will be gone in the first or second pick of the night.

Brisbane’s current picks:
34, 35, 36, 38, 55

GWS’s current picks:
1, 15, 18, 19, 31, 57, 61

Basically they have five picks between them in that range even before you consider bids.

I’ve currently predicted that Brisbane will pick three (doesn’t matter anyway as these picks will disappear by pick 2).

I’ve predicted GWS to take five selections but do think they’re looking to trade up the order. Wouldn’t be surprised to see pick 31 gone by that point. Believe there’s an academy kid they have that’s likely to go reasonably late so they’ll have no issue taking a fifth selection even if they lose one of 15, 18, 19 and 31.

 

[Lach72]

The picks we have I really hope we hit needs real hard. Even slightly reaching for those we think have the attributes in areas we are short. Small/medium forwards in particular

 

[Wobbly Punt]

I agree and I'd add tall backs to that list. Cox is highly effective at the moment but largely because he has the rock of Pearce behind him taking the deep key threats. We have decent backup right now in Hamling, but we need someone of Pearce's ilk coming through. That'd be my first box to tick depending on how things fall on the day.

 

[Scham]

I agree and I'd add tall backs to that list. Cox is highly effective at the moment but largely because he has the rock of Pearce behind him taking the deep key threats. We have decent backup right now in Hamling, but we need someone of Pearce's ilk coming through. That'd be my first box to tick depending on how things fall on the day.

We've got Benning as a developing key back but could possibly do with another just to be on the safe side. Jed Adams should be available to us at our first and possibly second pick.

 

[Docker82]

We've got Benning as a developing key back but could possibly do with another just to be on the safe side. Jed Adams should be available to us at our first and possibly second pick.

Not sure I've seen him in the top 45 in a single phantom draft tbh.

He's one we could possibly get with a late selection if we're willing to take that risk.

 

[Wobbly Punt]

I know they've played Benning back but I'm not sure they see that as his future and its maybe more of a development thing. I could easily be wrong in that and if they have identified him as that potential key back then happy days. Adams has been one I'm hoping for later on in (rookie etc) as well and would be a good get if noone else makes sense at our other picks. I don't think we need to go too hard or early but getting another body in for that role would be good.

If Lemmey falls to an after 40 (which looks possible and maybe even likely) he'd be in my crosshairs too. I know all the kerfuffle about his mental health and performance drop off this year but particularly with a later pick, if he's there the potential payoff is huge. I'd stick him down back if we do get him and let him come in to the picture with less pressure, switching him forward could be done a bit later if he settles in nicely in the early going down back.

 

[Paracleet]

Based on probabilities, it’s almost certain that there will be a player there at 50 that we rate at 30. I’d say that’s the same for most clubs.

Well if you think about it that can't be true, or no-one would live trade their 3rd round picks to allow others to trade up. They'd just take the player.

 

[Dockeroo]

Well if you think about it that can't be true, or no-one would live trade their 3rd round picks to allow others to trade up. They'd just take the player.

There would also be a player at pick 30 that most clubs have in their top 15 or 20.
Eg Nathan o Driscoll was in the top 20 of both west coast and us in 2020. But probably no other clubs. Certainly not Collingwood. So when it emerged he was still there at pick 27, ourselves and the eagles started bidding with Collingwood to trade up. The pies took the best offer and we got NOD.
They probably ranked NOD around 35 and didnt care. Chose Poulter at 29 instead.

 

[pK75]

Well if you think about it that can't be true, or no-one would live trade their 3rd round picks to allow others to trade up. They'd just take the player.

I think the point was that every club has a different order on their board. There will be someone in our top 30 available at our pick 44 (or whatever it becomes)

 

[Scham]

I've got a feeling that we'll rate Harry Cole a lot higher than other clubs.

 

[Walkingwounded]

I've got a feeling that we'll rate Harry Cole a lot higher than other clubs.

Ssshhhhhhhh

 

[Hammersoup12]

I've got a feeling that we'll rate Harry Cole a lot higher than other clubs.

What type of player is he??


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[Ysaye]

What type of player is he??


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Medium size forward - good mark, good kick at goal.

 

[Scham]

What type of player is he??


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The type we need, but also the type that we've been taking lately.

 

[dexter_]

Medium size forward - good mark, good kick at goal.

This is the exactly the type of player we should be taking.

 

[Taylor]

Tricky for a player like that. Marking medium forward. Six foot one.

There's a lot more money on the table for midfielders who take that next step than there are for mid sized forwards who can lose their spot to a skinny (so not physically developed) key tall playing 3rd or 4th forward.

Really important for rounding out a structure, colouring in the lines for an extra goal or two. But there will always be that pressure to break into a role higher up the ground, more interactions per game.

I think the game is finally moving beyond genuine small forwards following that same path now. Land of the giant midfielders are coming back.

 

[Alfonz]

I am super keen on Cole. Would actually be quite disappointed if we don't get him. Rookieme profile has his strengths as forward craft, aerial ability, finishing, x-factor, class. Weaknesses as strength and consistency. The last two are far easier to improve than the strengths. He has played a lot of midfield as a junior, so there is some versatility there.

I see it as our greatest area of weakness and would be happy to double down on say Munkara at 30 and Cole at 44. Even if that seems too high based on the phantom draft rankings that seem to be out there, these are still late-ish picks in what seems like an average draft. I would just take the forwards first and hope for the best. Use our latest picks on KPD, ruck, mid (possibly mature options).

 

[wakojako]

I am super keen on Cole. Would actually be quite disappointed if we don't get him. Rookieme profile has his strengths as forward craft, aerial ability, finishing, x-factor, class. Weaknesses as strength and consistency. The last two are far easier to improve than the strengths. He has played a lot of midfield as a junior, so there is some versatility there.

I see it as our greatest area of weakness and would be happy to double down on say Munkara at 30 and Cole at 44. Even if that seems too high based on the phantom draft rankings that seem to be out there, these are still late-ish picks in what seems like an average draft. I would just take the forwards first and hope for the best. Use our latest picks on KPD, ruck, mid (possibly mature options).

Munkara has nominated Essendon and has played two football games all year as far as I can tell due to injury so he is an unknown. I don't know him so the recuiters will have a better idea. Hagan is underrated by the comp so Hagan and Cole would be my best scenario. Would they both make it to our picks? Probably not.

 

[theGav56]

Munkara has nominated Essendon and has played two football games all year as far as I can tell due to injury so he is an unknown. I don't know him so the recuiters will have a better idea. Hagan is underrated by the comp so Hagan and Cole would be my best scenario. Would they both make it to our picks? Probably not.

A player can't nominate a club can they?

Unless they want to be suspended for draft tampering that is.

Inside the top 30 anyone can take him.

 

[Ysaye]

A player can't nominate a club can they?

Unless they want to be suspended for draft tampering that is.

Inside the top 30 anyone can take him.

What I think he meant was that as an Essendon NGA, Munkara has been nominated by them, so if he is picked after 40 they can match on him.

 

[wakojako]

A player can't nominate a club can they?

Unless they want to be suspended for draft tampering that is.

Inside the top 30 anyone can take him.

Yeah you are right he can't nominate but he has said he wants to play for them. Besides he has worked and lived with Tippa and Heppel. If we got Tippa we could probably have convinced him to join us.

 

[Chris25]

Before we look at possible draft options for us, it's probably best to look at just the WA kids and where they may fall. I suspect that might not matter too much for our first pick, where we're likely looking for someone we rated top 20 to 'slide'. But we do seem to put an emphasis on local...

No Chance
Reuben Ginbey
Jedd Busslinger

Very Unlikely
Ed Allan
Elijah Hewett

I suspect Allan will end up going top 20, I'm still not sure if I'd really be bothered missing out on him. He's certainly not a safe pick. While I think Hewett drops a bit like Johnson did last year, probably goes very early second round to West Coast - but you never know.

Possible
Darcy Jones
Sam Gilbey

I definitely rate Jones higher than most, I think he goes 15-30 so he can't be ruled out for our first pick. I think we'd be very lucky though. While Gilbey I think fits into that 25-35 range. I'd be curious as to whether we would take him - he could potentially be the best available, he's local but he's very much another Young/Chapman.

Probable
Jed Hagan
Jed Adams
Harry Cole
Kaleb Smith

I think all 4 will be available at our first pick, with Hagan and Cole likely for our other picks too. Smith is the one I could see being a surprise on the day and going first, and I still think we'll see a run on KPDs in the late second round which will see Adams off the board.