Preview 2022 draft prospects

[The Dawes]

I think Derek is open to trading 16 or 27 into 2023 if the players he rates highly are gone by then. Said he has 4 or 5 in that first pick bracket, which includes Ryan… whilst also mentioning Weddle and Cowan

I'm encouraged with him name checking Weddle and Cowan, both look more appealing than Ryan on my limited viewing.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I'm encouraged with him name checking Weddle and Cowan, both look more appealing than Ryan on my limited viewing.

Correct weight!

 

[Mollythedolly]

if there is no one left of interest at 51, I think Ginni should be upgraded and keep some space for rookies or mid season options.

I don’t think we have to upgrade Ginni to access players vi Sup or Midseason drafting.

 

[Couch Coach]

You’d assume they’re 3 of the 5 he likes, but was cryptic by saying they’re all in a HBF group around the 15 - 20 range. but still wonder if he’s avoiding mentioning a player like Hayes for v good reason.

Interestingly, he also said that there is interest ahead of us in Ryan, so it’s pretty hard to pick him if he’s already gone. I’d be staggered if Ryan is gone by our pick, unless Adelaide clubs are keen to trade for picks 14 or 15 specifically for him.

Melbourne is reportedly interested in Ryan and Adelaide may trade futures to get back in 22 for Ryan or Barnett.

A rebounding HBF like Cowen or Ryan makes sense for Melbourne if they think they are in the flag window.
A KPF will take time to develop.
Melbourne lost Hunt to WCE, Hibberd is getting on in years, Bowey has stepped up but you would think that they need to add some run and carry.

 

[swoop42]

If Hine views the players between 15 to 30 as fairly even then sliding 16 to 22 and extorting a future 2nd from Essendon with threats to bid on Davey might be an option.

We should bid on Davey regardless.

 

[manicpie]

I thought I would join the BF draft tipping comp

Brisbane - Ashcroft
GWS - Cadman
North - Wardlaw
North - Sheezel
Essendon - Phillipou
Gold Coast - Hollands
Hawthorn - Tsatas
Geelong - J. Clarke
WC - Gineby
St.Kilda - McKenzie
Carlton - Humphrey's
Bulldogs - Busslinger
WC - Allen
Melbourne - Jefferson
Sydney - Clarke
GWS - Weddle
Brisbane - Fletcher
Collingwood - Husthwaite
sydney - Hewitt
GWS - Konstanti

 

[Mick F]

Why not , it's always worked in the past for him. I suppose you don't look as bad if you don't take a KPP and he doesn't make it as compared to taking a flanker who would be just another player on the scrap heap. We can only hope that the rest of the team have some input

How do you sustain “There were four better prospects available, but ….”

 

[Mick F]

Hine sounded pretty keen to get rid of 16. Mentioned a top group of 12 or so, but then later alluded to things evening up around pick 15 into the 20s.

So your assertion is, he is keen to remove a pick ‘around 15 into the 20s’ to get picks in the 30s and 40s?? Even Baldrick’s plans weren’t that cunning!

 

[manicpie]

How do you sustain “There were four better prospects available, but ….”

He'll find a way

 

[swoop42]

He’s a cone.

If anyone can pull off being both a c*n* and a c*c*head then it's Dodoro.

Mackie a contender for the crown also.

 

[whiskeytown]

Don’t like looking at SA U18s stats. Not as strong as Vic. Wasn’t poulter regularly racking up 30 poss games there…
Can’t believe people are tossing up between Ryan and Clarke for a first round pick. First round ffs. I’d even roll the dice on George at pick 1 before those two..

Hardly worth getting frustrated over

Once the top 8-10 are gone there is probably bugger all between the next 10-15 in terms of talent

The point that was being made… take a punt… bring in some X factor.

If it’s George at 16 so be it

Not a skinny KPD or a pedestrian mid who’s never going to get a game behind 3-4 others

 

[Mick F]

Yep, that was my point RE my last post; he went from saying it was proving impossible to trade pick 16 up (especially without our F2&F3) and then went on to say 16 was essentially on the table... everything is on the table, pending offers.

Your musing definitely had merit. If we weren’t fussed, and GWS were, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that your proposal could benefit both clubs.

 

[Couch Coach]

I thought I would join the BF draft tipping comp

Brisbane - Ashcroft
GWS - Cadman
North - Wardlaw
North - Sheezel
Essendon - Phillipou
Gold Coast - Hollands
Hawthorn - Tsatas
Geelong - J. Clarke
WC - Gineby
St.Kilda - McKenzie
Carlton - Humphrey's
Bulldogs - Busslinger
WC - Allen
Melbourne - Jefferson
Sydney - Clarke
GWS - Weddle
Brisbane - Fletcher
Collingwood - Husthwaite
sydney - Hewitt
GWS - Konstanti

manicpie you will never take over Dekka's job with that.

Not one skinny outside HBF in the first round.

 

[JOELY]

So your assertion is, he his keen to remove a pick ‘around 15 into the 20s’ to get picks in the 30s and 40s?? Even Baldrick’s plans weren’t that cunning!

No, that is not what either him or I are asserting.

 

[Horaceg]

I don’t think we have to upgrade Ginni to access players vi Sup or Midseason drafting.

We don’t really, you’re correct, in my eyes Ginni should be on the senior list.

If there is a prospect we rate highly at 51 the option is there.

 

[Horaceg]

I do the Welcome Threads

Goes without saying TD

 

[Couch Coach]

Fox chat,

 

[Ugene41]

Would be great if Hine could trade out pick 16 for a future first round from Melbourne. Doesn't seem like there's much of a gap between 16 and 25 so much prefer having 2 first rounders next year and 25 as our first pick this year.

Take 25, 27, 51 into the draft and pick up something like Barnett, Ryan, Lemmey.

 

[Rusty Beam]

Hine was asked about trading 16 into the top 10 or thereabouts and he more or less said it had proven impossible, with only some clubs having the currency to do so, i.e. Melbourne.

Surprisingly they didn't ask him about the potential of trading it backwards, because his answer IMO (and I could be reading too much into it) left it as an option.

What about 16, 25 and 27 to GWS for 18, 19 and 31...

(unless a genuine slider is sitting there at 16)

Edit: yes, I know the picks will have slid back by then

That would be an interesting trade.

I’d probably consider it as well.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Would be great if Hine could trade out pick 16 for a future first round from Melbourne. Doesn't seem like there's much of a gap between 16 and 25 so much prefer having 2 first rounders next year and 25 as our first pick this year.

Take 25, 27, 51 into the draft and pick up something like Barnett, Ryan, Lemmey.

Yep, don’t hate that.

 

[No SPIN]

Wrong thread but we need to all see this. Happy days

McCrae finally has a tank - that’s great news and a potential sign of big improvement.

 

[KJpie]

Wrong thread but we need to all see this. Happy days

I'm equally impressed with MaCrae being second. Looked off the pace in the first half of this year. before finishing the year out strongly.

 

[Harry O]

I'm equally impressed with MaCrae being second. Looked off the pace in the first half of this year. before finishing the year out strongly.

To be fair was it only the 1-4 year players who did it ?

 

[KJpie]

To be fair was it only the 1-4 year players who did it ?

That's my limited understanding, that age group or thereabouts before the seniors
EFA

 

[RobJD]

Hine was asked about trading 16 into the top 10 or thereabouts and he more or less said it had proven impossible, with only some clubs having the currency to do so, i.e. Melbourne.

Surprisingly they didn't ask him about the potential of trading it backwards, because his answer IMO (and I could be reading too much into it) left it as an option.

What about 16, 25 and 27 to GWS for 18, 19 and 31...

(unless a genuine slider is sitting there at 16)

Edit: yes, I know the picks will have slid back by then

Wouldn't be surprised all the talk about Ryan and Clark is to prepare us for trading Pick 16 out - and the mantra will be that in an even draft, we traded into the 2023 Draft and we still got our targets.