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genuinely hilarious watching people post delist everyone while bemoaning the sins of the past.
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Of course hence my “ ya could “ and we won’t be delisting 16.I'd keep Powell and maybe Ford but the rest is hard to argue
genuinely hilarious watching people post delist everyone while bemoaning the sins of the past.
I don’t think anyone actually thinks it’s a good idea or going to happen. But we do have 14-16 players this year that could easily make the cut for the 6-8 exits.
We couldn’t possibly replace the 14 that need to go in 1 off season but there is that many that are total deadwood that will never be serviceable AFL players (or for Shiels & Greenwood - never again) and if you think otherwise I have a bridge to sell you.
Worst case he's coverage for X if he goes down. Crazy talk delisting him.
This is basically playing tattslotto with the list, a pick in the 4th/5th round is very unlikely to offer more than someone on the potential delist like Laz.But we have 5 picks in total yeah?
Honestly I'd be inclined to use all of them to replace the three that have gone plus a few extra that we delist.
Better off taking a punt on some kids who may bring something than keeping those who we know won't.
And if we can get just 2 mature trades to replace a couple more, then we have to be in a better position than we are now..
This thread is really the answer to the question can al clarko still coach. Some around these parts have written him off. I fwiw haven’t. And having up to 16 players that you could find a reason to delist kind of shows why we’re rooted to the foot of the ladder. And it wouldn’t matter who’s the coach.I don’t think anyone actually thinks it’s a good idea or going to happen. But we do have 14-16 players this year that could easily make the cut for the 6-8 exits.
We couldn’t possibly replace the 14 that need to go in 1 off season but there is that many that are total deadwood that will never be serviceable AFL players (or for Shiels & Greenwood - never again) and if you think otherwise I have a bridge to sell you.
I like it but we need 1x cheap / UFA ready-to-go KPF and at least 1x cheap ready-to-go small forward in addition to Berry to establish a competitive modern structure imo.When considering delistings, we need to think over at least two years. We have a lot of sub-standard players out of contract this year and next – sixteen minimum. We are also currently four over the max list size. We may get to keep the extra two rookies this year, but we will loose them some time in the next two trade periods. We don’t need to replace everyone we axe. We may even be better off with a smaller list, as we won’t need to divide the development team’s time over so many kids.
Here are my thoughts
Currently 46 (37 + 9 rookies)
Out of contract players to delist or retire
Primary Phillips, Taylor, Lazzaro, Nyuon, Harvey, Thomas, Greenwood, Stevo,
Rookies Drury, Free, Sellers, Shiels
Re-sign
1 year rookie contract RHJ and Maley
Twelve out, which creates eight list vacancies. This leaves 34 on the list (29 + 5 rookies). If we need more space to trade players in, we could delist and payout CCJ or Pink.
Trade and free agents
Dom Brew and an old bloke like Luke Parker to harden us up
Draft
2 Split this pick with Richmond into Trainor/Armstrong and Berry
22 Best key forward left
40 Best available (must be able to run)
Late or rookie River Stevens, a long shot like Waylon Davey-Motlop
This would take us to 42 (36 + 6 or 37 + 5)
If we get to keep our extra rookie spots take one or two more, but only if we rate them highly enough
I’d let Harvey train with us over summer, and if he can get fit enough we can sign him as a SSP in Feb.
This would leave 13 players out of contract for 2026. Which should hopefully be our last year of deep cuts. On the list below, after LDU none are completely safe. They include 5 state league quality talls we have picked up cheap to try and balance the list after refusing to go tall early in the draft. I would be surprised if more than one of these are on the list in 2026.
2025 OOC - LDU, Goater, Corr, Tucker, Ford, Bergman, CCJ, Pink, + Rookies - K Dawson, Teakle, Maley, RHJ, Payne
Yes to the small forward, if there is a good one available. I suspect the KPF would end up similar to Teakle, Pink, Biggie, CJ, etc. UFA talls are UFA for a reason and we have collected too many of these blokes. And I'm in the play Comben forward camp.I like it but we need 1x cheap / UFA ready-to-go KPF and at least 1x cheap ready-to-go small forward in addition to Berry to establish a competitive modern structure imo.
Starting 2025 with Larkey, Maley and CCJ as our round 1 key forward options, and Berry, Stevens and RHJ as our small forward stock (with 6 snr games between them) is not starting exactly starting the season in our strongest possible position, given the options available to us.
Owies is rumoured to be availableYes to the small forward, if there is a good one available. I suspect the KPF would end up similar to Teakle, Pink, Biggie, CJ, etc. UFA talls are UFA for a reason and we have collected too many of these blokes. And I'm in the play Comben forward camp.
Yep, anyone talking about doing a massive list cleanout needs to explain what we're going to replace those players with. Because the last time we cut so deep as to clear Mason Wood and Majak Daw off the list, we ended up filling that space with guns like Patrick Walker and Connor Menadue.Assuming for a moment that those contracted - i.e. Pink, Stephenson, CCJ & Teakle will NOT be delisted, then I would think:
As noted by Nostra, with only 3 draft picks under 40, I cannot see how we can go much further than about 5 true de-listings beyond Thomas, Shiels and Greenwood.
- Retirements / Other
- Thomas
- Shiels
- Greenwood
- Delisted
- Free
- Drury
- Taylor
- Nuyon
- Harvey
- 1 yr deals -> Lazz, Sellers
Assuming for a moment that those contracted - i.e. Pink, Stephenson, CCJ & Teakle will NOT be delisted, then I would think:
As noted by Nostra, with only 3 draft picks under 40, I cannot see how we can go much further than about 5 true de-listings beyond Thomas, Shiels and Greenwood.
- Retirements / Other
- Thomas
- Shiels
- Greenwood
- Delisted
- Free
- Drury
- Taylor
- Nuyon
- Harvey
- 1 yr deals -> Lazz, Sellers
Shit, we are spoilt for choice on who we can delist , fabulous stuffFor me it would be:
Shiels
Thomas
Greenwood
Definitely gone.
Then in order of priority rather than contract status:
Free
Drury
Nyoun
Pink
Harvey
Taylor
Stephenson
Sellers (tempted to keep on just to give our VFL something to kick to)
That's 11 already.
Then you move into the next tier: Bergman, CCJ, Phillips, Lazz, Ford, Teakle
I'd say we move on 7-8, try to trade a couple of others. Depends on if we're game enough to pay out contracts, which I suggest we should be.
Anyone suggesting Testy gets delisted is just showing what little knowledge they have.
You can already reel off names to be delisted next year...Shit, we are spoilt for choice on who we can delist , fabulous stuff
Pretty grim reading heyShit, we are spoilt for choice on who we can delist , fabulous stuff
Should be retained another year regardlessWe all know Harvey will be retained due to his dad
I thought he and Payne were on 18 month contracts anyway?bit harsh on testy, i think he’s done enough to earn a spot next year. give him a full preseason and he’ll be fine.
Promise is what RHJ has shown and you want him delistedShould be retained another year regardless
For a second year forward he’s shown promise