List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading Part 2

[FR0GGY]

Not sure how accurate it is.

 

[Crow-eater]

List as it stands after today's announcements.



I believe all our re-signings are done. Which leaves us with the following permutations:

1) ANB + 3 draft picks + 1 Rookie pick.
2) ANB + Luko/Cumming + 3 draft picks + 1 contracted player to rookie list
3) ANB + Luko + Cumming + 2 draft picks + 1 contracted player to rookie list*

*3 cannot happen as we need to take 3 picks in the draft, so either we're not getting all 3 targets, we're delisting a contracted player/Burgess isn't contracted, or we're going to do what I suggested yesterday. Upgrade Keane to the senior list (counts as one of 3 mandatory picks in the draft), and demote another contracted player to the rookie list.

In which case, 3 becomes

3) ANB + Luko + Cumming + 2 draft picks + Keane to senior list + 2 contracted players to rookie list.

 

[Crow_68]

Not sure how accurate it is.
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And so he should be.

 

[FR0GGY]

And so he should be.

Wouldn’t have an issue if Dawson was.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

List as it stands after today's announcements.

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I believe all our re-signings are done. Which leaves us with the following permutations:

1) ANB + 3 draft picks + 1 Rookie pick.
2) ANB + Luko/Cumming + 3 draft picks + 1 contracted player to rookie list
3) ANB + Luko + Cumming + 2 draft picks + 1 contracted player to rookie list*

*3 cannot happen as we need to take 3 picks in the draft, so either we're not getting all 3 targets, we're delisting a contracted player/Burgess isn't contracted, or we're going to do what I suggested yesterday. Upgrade Keane to the senior list (counts as one of 3 mandatory picks in the draft), and demote another contracted player to the rookie list.

In which case, 3 becomes

3) ANB + Luko + Cumming + 2 draft picks + Keane to senior list + 2 contracted players to rookie list.

We have to make a minimum of three picks at the ND (#4, Welsh and one other). What I can see eventuating:

The remaining uncontracted players gone
Burgess gone
One of Smith/Schoenberg/Strachan to the rookie list - no live rookie picks
Leaves us space for three picks, ANB, Luko and Cumming

Rosas will be Essendon bound, I predict.

 

[Mutineer]

Tells you how difficult it's going to be to trade up or trade into this year's 1st round or even early 2nd round even with 2025 1st round picks included.

FUTURE PICKS UP FOR GRABS​

NORTH Melbourne is among the clubs open to putting its future first-round pick on the trade table to land another top pick in this year's draft as teams clamour for high end talent.

The strong regard for which recruiters hold the 2024 draft crop has been further exemplified by most clubs expressing they are open to using their future pick to buy into this year's first round.

The majority of clubs are open to either adding an extra first-round pick or attaining a first-round pick in this year's draft by using their future pick as a trade chip.

 

[jackster83]

Wouldn’t have an issue if Dawson was.

Laird on over $800k is ****ing embarrassing.

 

[FR0GGY]

Tells you how difficult it's going to be to trade up or trade into this year's 1st round or even early 2nd round even with 2025 1st round picks included.

FUTURE PICKS UP FOR GRABS​

NORTH Melbourne is among the clubs open to putting its future first-round pick on the trade table to land another top pick in this year's draft as teams clamour for high end talent.

The strong regard for which recruiters hold the 2024 draft crop has been further exemplified by most clubs expressing they are open to using their future pick to buy into this year's first round.

The majority of clubs are open to either adding an extra first-round pick or attaining a first-round pick in this year's draft by using their future pick as a trade chip.

Just makes us trading 25 for ANB look worse if that’s what we do.

 

[FR0GGY]

Laird on over $800k is ****ing embarrassing.

You got the whole list?

 

[jackster83]

You got the whole list?

Nope.

I know he's #54 on the list at $850k.

 

[FR0GGY]

Nope.

I know he's #54 on the list at $850k.

But it says Izak is 825k and our highest paid?

 

[jackster83]

But it says Izak is 825k and our highest paid?

His manager sure fleeced us lol.

 

[latinoheat]

Not sure how accurate it is.
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So he should be. Him and Dawson our best players

 

[latinoheat]

List as it stands after today's announcements.

View attachment 2109578

I believe all our re-signings are done. Which leaves us with the following permutations:

1) ANB + 3 draft picks + 1 Rookie pick.
2) ANB + Luko/Cumming + 3 draft picks + 1 contracted player to rookie list
3) ANB + Luko + Cumming + 2 draft picks + 1 contracted player to rookie list*

*3 cannot happen as we need to take 3 picks in the draft, so either we're not getting all 3 targets, we're delisting a contracted player/Burgess isn't contracted, or we're going to do what I suggested yesterday. Upgrade Keane to the senior list (counts as one of 3 mandatory picks in the draft), and demote another contracted player to the rookie list.

In which case, 3 becomes

3) ANB + Luko + Cumming + 2 draft picks + Keane to senior list + 2 contracted players to rookie list.

I’m thinking option 2

 

[rabidcrow]

In isolation, they're all good signings, but...

Murray
Butts
Keane
Borlase

You'd assume we're only going to play 2 of them, right?

If so, Murray is first selected; question is whether Butts (yes for me) or Keane is second picked, which then leaves Keane/Butts as depth, and then Borlase as depth upon depth.

4 KpDs is reasonable depth. Our list just has too may average want to be (need to be) midfielders of similar type


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[Mutineer]

Those are just what a journalist/journalists think, there's no way they have every payers salary available to them. They're simply spitballing.

 

[Mutineer]

4 KpDs is reasonable depth. Our list just has too may average want to be (need to be) midfielders of similar type


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I'd be interested to see how many clubs keep purely "depth" players on their list for similar similar periods to us to us like Ben Davis and Elliot Himmelberg.?

 

[jackster83]

I'd be interested to see how many clubs keep purely "depth" players on their list for similar similar periods to us to us like Ben Davis and Elliot Himmelberg.?

Depends if they are contending.

Keeping excess depth types when you are still rebuilding limits your ability to develop players.

 

[CrowHop]

Possibly, but again - it's a very long time ago! It certainly hasn't happened under the current list management regime.

Yeah I’m testing the memory on that one


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[Kane McGoodwin]

Laird on over $800k is ****ing embarrassing.

ROB not that far behind!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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His manager sure fleeced us lol.

Btw, how can he be half way through a 5 year contract at the end of a year...

Gather he is 60% through the contract.

 

[FR0GGY]

I'd be interested to see how many clubs keep purely "depth" players on their list for similar similar periods to us to us like Ben Davis and Elliot Himmelberg.?

Campbell (saints ruck)

 

[cleanhands]

Laird on over $800k is ****ing embarrassing.

 

[Mutineer]

Campbell (saints ruck)

6 years at the Dogs....delisted.
3 years at the Kangaroos....delisted
2 years at St.Kilda ....delisted

*edit 3 years at the Saints didn't play an AFL game in 2023

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

6 years at the Dogs....delisted.
3 years at the Kangaroos....delisted
2 years at St.Kilda ....delisted

Surely he has finally at the end of his AFL career.