2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

The more I think about it, Lalor likely to go earlier than our first pick, brings Travaglia into play. He could play straight away & fulfil a need in a back flank or pocket. Then hopefully does become a mid. down the track.
Then we swap 8 & 24 for two in-betweeners & choose the class of Hotton & Lindsay.
If we could offload a future 2nd for Harrison Oliver, would be good.
Seems at the minute, a mystery how we are going to replace key-position depth.
Cole & Soldo could be two & maybe we need to keep Hayes.
Good to see again, that we now had a crack at Leek Aleer, who denied us this year, but comes out of contract next year.

 

[SteeleSaints]

The more I think about it, Lalor likely to go earlier than our first pick, brings Travaglia into play. He could play straight away & fulfil a need in a back flank or pocket. Then hopefully does become a mid. down the track.
Then we swap 8 & 24 for two in-betweeners & choose the class of Hotton & Lindsay.
If we could offload a future 2nd for Harrison Oliver, would be good.
Seems at the minute, a mystery how we are going to replace key-position depth.
Cole & Soldo could be two & maybe we need to keep Hayes.
Good to see again, that we now had a crack at Leek Aleer, who denied us this year, but comes out of contract next year.

How many small/medium defensive players do we want on our list? We already have Sinclair, NAS, Webster, Stocker, Hastie, Schoenmaker, McLennan, OConnell and have Hoffman coming in and possibly is where Peckett will play initially. Now you want to add Travaglia in the hope he will become a midfielder, plus Oliver when we already have possibly 10 of those positional players on our list.

Although splitting pick #8 IF we get it might be a worth while exercise. Given the eveness of the drafts top 25 I doubt a club would want to off load two later first round picks for 8, although we might be able to get a toe in all the trading that will eventuate.

 

[Mr Platinum]

What's your top 10?

In no particular order, I’d be stoked to get any of the following, I’ve excluded Ashcroft for obvious reasons:
Draper
Smith
Langford
Armstrong
Travaglia
Lalor
O’Sullivan
Hotton
Trainor(concussion is a concern)
Smillie

I’m not big on Reid.

 

[Freo5]

The difference between the top 5 prospects and the next tier is marginal.
Give me pick 7&8 over a top 3 pick and a latter pick every day and twice on Sunday.
I’m only giving up one of 7 & 8 if we’re splitting it for two picks in the teens.

Couldn’t disagree with this anymore, Smith and O’Sullivan are a class above the rest of the midfielders in this draft

 

[Saints43]

It would be great if Sandringham recruited player/s worthy of a list spot. As it stands to take one of their donkeys this year would be a wasted list position, that some other decent kid with a future might take.

Isn't that the point of the guarantee? To encourage better players to come to Sandy for the opportunity.
It's probably a medium term strategy.

When other clubs start doing it it'll be a great idea.

 

[CaptainRisky]

The more I think about it, Lalor likely to go earlier than our first pick, brings Travaglia into play. He could play straight away & fulfil a need in a back flank or pocket. Then hopefully does become a mid. down the track.
Then we swap 8 & 24 for two in-betweeners & choose the class of Hotton & Lindsay.
If we could offload a future 2nd for Harrison Oliver, would be good.
Seems at the minute, a mystery how we are going to replace key-position depth.
Cole & Soldo could be two & maybe we need to keep Hayes.
Good to see again, that we now had a crack at Leek Aleer, who denied us this year, but comes out of contract next year.

And most likely next year will do the same unless we can really improve and give him hope that we are going the right direction

 

[TheJackal]

In no particular order, I’d be stoked to get any of the following, I’ve excluded Ashcroft for obvious reasons:
Draper
Smith
Langford
Armstrong
Travaglia
Lalor
O’Sullivan
Hotton
Trainor(concussion is a concern)
Smillie

I’m not big on Reid.

Interesting list, it's always interesting looking at drafting, especially for list needs.

I remember being desperate for a mid like Hobbs when we got Nas, so disappointed when we went with a flanker. Now look at the egg on everyones face, despite this, perhaps I'm still making the same mistake not wanting Travaglia.

Much would be dependent on getting pick 8, but I'd be a little shocked if we didn't get a mid if we only had one first.

I think personally it's hard to argue your top 10. I'd have Lindsay and Reid in there before Hotton though. I think Reid is made for modern footy and also our game plan with his footy smarts and handballing.

Either way, who knows what clubland thinks or even what picks we'll have to use.

 

[Mr Platinum]

Interesting list, it's always interesting looking at drafting, especially for list needs.

I remember being desperate for a mid like Hobbs when we got Nas, so disappointed when we went with a flanker. Now look at the egg on everyones face, despite this, perhaps I'm still making the same mistake not wanting Travaglia.

Much would be dependent on getting pick 8, but I'd be a little shocked if we didn't get a mid if we only had one first.

I think personally it's hard to argue your top 10. I'd have Lindsay and Reid in there before Hotton though. I think Reid is made for modern footy and also our game plan with his footy smarts and handballing.

Either way, who knows what clubland thinks or even what picks we'll have to use.

Reid is too much like Hunter Clark to me, I don’t like players of his type.

 

[TheJackal]

Reid is too much like Hunter Clark to me, I don’t like players of his type.

I thought that during the champs as well but during later games I saw more unique aspects of his game. I think the Clark stuff is overdone due to not being super speedy and having similar hair.

 

[Minga]

Reid is too much like Hunter Clark to me, I don’t like players of his type.

Agreed, I was saying this the other week and it seemed a polarising take.

Whilst I do like Hunter Clark, there are so many of his types you can have on a list.

That being said, perhaps looks are deceiving with Reid, who knows.

One thing is almost certain, if we have picked 7+8 its going to be hard not to get excited about who we take no matter who it is.

 

[Barrels]

8 or 9 more years…

 

[joydivision22]

Dalrymple previewing the 2019 draft is amusing to watch in hindsight. A lot of parallels to how this draft is being viewed (lacking in top end talent, but with a lot of depth in terms of midfielders).

Yet for the perceived lack of top end talent it produced Rowell, Anderson, Jackson, Young, Serong, Green, Flanders, Pickett, Day, SDK in the top 20 alone.

Don't really know what my point is here but all the notions of drafts being strong / weak or comparable one year to the next can get flipped on their head pretty quickly once the proof starts emerging from the pudding.

Very effectively made my point for me.

Perceptions are nearly always wrong but hindsight analysis reveals an obvious trend.. the higher the better if you want the kind of player we want.

 

[joydivision22]

The more I think about it, Lalor likely to go earlier than our first pick, brings Travaglia into play. He could play straight away & fulfil a need in a back flank or pocket. Then hopefully does become a mid. down the track.
Then we swap 8 & 24 for two in-betweeners & choose the class of Hotton & Lindsay.
If we could offload a future 2nd for Harrison Oliver, would be good.
Seems at the minute, a mystery how we are going to replace key-position depth.
Cole & Soldo could be two & maybe we need to keep Hayes.
Good to see again, that we now had a crack at Leek Aleer, who denied us this year, but comes out of contract next year.

Before just moving on up and grabbing our guy, you’d sooner draft 5 flankers who might become the player we’re after?

 

[Tommy Wigs]

How many small/medium defensive players do we want on our list? We already have Sinclair, NAS, Webster, Stocker, Hastie, Schoenmaker, McLennan, OConnell and have Hoffman coming in and possibly is where Peckett will play initially. Now you want to add Travaglia in the hope he will become a midfielder, plus Oliver when we already have possibly 10 of those positional players on our list.

Although splitting pick #8 IF we get it might be a worth while exercise. Given the eveness of the drafts top 25 I doubt a club would want to off load two later first round picks for 8, although we might be able to get a toe in all the trading that will eventuate.

If the club (or us fans through hypotheticals) are inclined to trade down, then I suspect it will be on the night and for someone with a first that’s perhaps only 1-3 picks away and we grab a 2R or higher depending on the desperation / how far the slide. Moving up for a tall is possible or someone that the oppo club has fallen in love with.

 

[Saintbloke]

After watching the GF, I thought we should go after a strong middle-size half forward who can take a contested mark. It was noticeable how strong some of the middle-size Lions were in one-on-one contests. Our crumbers are not really strong marks for their size and probably we need to improve that area.

 

[Significant]

After watching the GF, I thought we should go after a strong middle-size half forward who can take a contested mark. It was noticeable how strong some of the middle-size Lions were in one-on-one contests. Our crumbers are not really strong marks for their size and probably we need to improve that area.

Mitchito. Think he should look to Rayner as the ideal prototype.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Give me Lindsay over Travaglia ... thanks!

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

How many small/medium defensive players do we want on our list? We already have Sinclair, NAS, Webster, Stocker, Hastie, Schoenmaker, McLennan, OConnell and have Hoffman coming in and possibly is where Peckett will play initially. Now you want to add Travaglia in the hope he will become a midfielder, plus Oliver when we already have possibly 10 of those positional players on our list.

Although splitting pick #8 IF we get it might be a worth while exercise. Given the eveness of the drafts top 25 I doubt a club would want to off load two later first round picks for 8, although we might be able 8 &24to get a toe in all the trading that will eventuate.

8 & 24 yes

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Before just moving on up and grabbing our guy, you’d sooner draft 5 flankers who might become the player we’re after?

Lalor isn't a pure mid. to some out there, could be more a forward.
There is a big belief that Travaglia will become a mid. aka Hayden Young-freeo.

 

[joydivision22]

Lalor isn't a pure mid. to some out there, could be more a forward.
There is a big belief that Travaglia will become a mid. aka Hayden Young-freeo.

I’ll defer to some of the closer draft watchers to comment on that but my read and eye tell me that he has all of the traits currently to be a powerful and damaging stoppage midfielder.

To say that he isn’t ‘pure’, to me simply means he is also a big threat forward by nature of said traits.

 

[akaifu]

Lalor isn't a pure mid. to some out there, could be more a forward.
There is a big belief that Travaglia will become a mid. aka Hayden Young-freeo.

If a club wants Lalor to be a pure mid, he will be a pure mid. He has all the attributes to do so - Petracca-like

Gotta remember, the kid has NEVER done a pre-season before due to cricket commitments

 

[joydivision22]

If a club wants Lalor to be a pure mid, he will be a pure mid. He has all the attributes to do so - Petracca-like

Gotta remember, the kid has NEVER done a pre-season before due to cricket commitments

Yeah heard that on radio too. Level headed country kid, power, stoppage craft, contested marking deep forward, nice enough kicking without elite vision/creativity of trac/martin but not without the scope to improve. Also has as much upside as anyone in the draft.

Not one other player in this draft is more suitable for us, by miles.

Gws look to have him top 3, wce and Adelaide very likely will jump at him. Our only chance is to deal with North for 2. Richmond probably take smith/Langford but wouldn’t shock me if they took Lalor either

 

[bakes10]

Give me Lindsay over Travaglia ... thanks!

I’m a big fan of Lindsay and if we can nab him and put him under the wing of Jackson McCrab and Nicky Dal, we’ll have a real gem. Can play inside, outside, midfield, halfback, left footer and likes to bring the ball back into the corridor with accuracy. Make it happen Dalrymple.

 

[akaifu]

Yeah heard that on radio too. Level headed country kid, power, stoppage craft, contested marking deep forward, nice enough kicking without elite vision/creativity of trac/martin but not without the scope to improve. Also has as much upside as anyone in the draft.

Not one other player in this draft is more suitable for us, by miles.

Gws look to have him top 3, wce and Adelaide very likely will jump at him. Our only chance is to deal with North for 2. Richmond probably take smith/Langford but wouldn’t shock me if they took Lalor either

I've conceded that we won't get Lalor. I'm just praying that one of FOS/Draper somehow slides down if Langford and Armstrong get taken higher up but I think the most likely scenario is Smillie + Langford if we get band 1 which isn't a bad result

Lots of doubts over Smillie but his form line and stats are almost identical to Tom Green in his draft year so if Smillie can get to that level then its a success. Langford's doubts are athleticism but we'll see after the combine over the next few days just how poor it really is. Hope he can develop into a slower but more contested Max Holmes

 

[HeavenlySources]

Can someone do a worst case phantom draft? like all mids taken before our picks kind of thing?