Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 13 - Another Crack At This

[Ford Fairlane]

Check out the coach

 

[Us against the rest]

I finally received a reply from Richardson. Take note of the sentence I underlined.

 

[Steve Dore]

I finally received a reply from Richardson.

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The players are totally committed to Ken so everything is rainbows and unicorns.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

The players are totally committed to Ken so everything is rainbows and unicorns.

Don't forget that we are bringing in slightly less young talent than our rivals whilst losing one of our best players, that's a positive right?

 

[Enviable Tradition]

I also like the way he CC'ed himself. Trigg like email management.

Did he just accidentally share with you his personal email?

 

[Schulzenfest]

I finally received a reply from Richardson.

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Is he trying to convince you or himself?

 

[Harlott]

Yep - it's why they should have cut the cord this season.

At the very least they should make the succession plan public knowledge with a firm end date. And if they did it before the AGM they won't have as many angry people to answer to at that event either. Would be a convenient way for the decision makers to largely escape accountability.

I’m pretty comfortable there will be no succession plan unless Hinkley has a premiership in his pocket.
Therefore there’ll be no succession plan.

 

[Harlott]

There is no way they are going to announce anything remotely to do with a succession plan with actual details. The only way is if the wheels fall off badly and even then it's not a fait accompli.

It will as it has always been, smoke and mirrors and probably another Hinkley contract 'based' on a missed goal or an errant handpass or a lucky bounce.

It's going to be a very long drawn out year because no one thinks Hinkley can get us to the Granny let alone win one. Not even the happy clappers.

Chewy and sundry will be doing their utmost to show how the new players or the new gameplan will hold up in finals. That will be the narrative. That will bring false hope to the fans. Things look the same but really we can do it this year.

Except if the wheels fall off it won’t be a succession plan

 

[Steve Dore]

Don't forget that we are bringing in slightly less young talent than our rivals whilst losing one of our best players, that's a positive right?

The CEO says our list is "far from broken" despite not being up to the standard required to make a Grand Final in the opinion of our GM of Football.

A club that "exists to win premierships" admitting that its list is not up to the standard required to make a Grand Final implies that the list is in effect quite broken and in need or urgent repair.

Richardson, Davies and Koch in their desperate attempts to deflect any blame for our lack of success from Hinkley repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

I finally received a reply from Richardson.

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"Yes, of course we haven't been able to make a Grand Final". Yes. Of course.

Players committed to Ken. Not club. And not our contracted dual-AA leader that just pissed off.

Bring more talent to the group despite trading F1. Catch ya later Zak and Bergs.

WOOHOO!

 

[philreich]

The CEO says our list is "far from broken" despite not being up to the standard required to make a Grand Final in the opinion of our GM of Football.

A club that "exists to win premierships" admitting that its list is not up to the standard required to make a Grand Final implies that the list is in effect quite broken and in need or urgent repair.

Richardson, Davies and Koch in their desperate attempts to deflect any blame for our lack of success from Hinkley repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.

But I agree that the list is far from broken - it's the stupid, never changing game plan that stinks, and needs urgent repair. Get rid of the muppet in charge of that game plan, and bring in someone who allows the players to play properly, and I reckon they can achieve anything.

 

[Tibbs]

Rory Atkins premiership player. imagine him driving around west lakes doing laps in his MG ZST around Philips street and Charles street premiership cup in hand yelling abuse to anyone Crows supporters he sees lol.

Not impossible! ..... Grand Final game stats: 2 disposals, 1 behind!

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[Bump Bailey]

its almost November 1 and I see some clubs are still making list management decisions, does that mean it’s still not too late to sack our loser coach and allow the supporter base to head into 2025 with a snifter of excitement, optimism and hope?

Naaaaah as if, we couldn’t do that.

 

[Chewy316]

I’m pretty comfortable there will be no succession plan unless Hinkley has a premiership in his pocket.
Therefore there’ll be no succession plan.

I think it comes down to a few things, the biggest one being whether Carr has already signed a contract to be the next head coach with a rolling start date. And that MAY have already happened a while ago - quite possibly during season 2023.

If that is the case, if Port want to give Hinkley a further extension (for 2026 and 2027), then the issue becomes one of how can anyone in their right mind have signed a senior coach to a contract that wouldn't be enacted for 4 years AFTER the contract had been originally signed. The alternative would be to rip that contract up, in which case the payout could be close to 2M.

The Board are in the stickiest of situations if they want to play it out like this, and it will be a situation entirely of their making with no one else to blame.

 

[Tibbs]

I think the idea of a treading water season applies regardless of whether or not a succession plan is publicly announced. But announcing it publicly gives the fans hope for the future rather than lamenting another year of the same.

Chewy, its almost unheard of for a coach to go deep into the final year of his contract without either getting an extension, or getting sacked! Based on historic precedents, Hinkley is entering 2025 on extremely shaky ground. Then as the season progresses, the pressure is going to mount exponentially, one way or other!
1] Perform poorly over the first two months, and everyone will be baying for his blood!
1] Perform well over the same period, and the pressure on the club to extend him will be immense! At the very least they will be forced to announce what their future plans are regarding Ken &/or any succession.

So IMO we will know fairly early in the season what direction the club will take.

 

[Grave Danger]

I received a reply from Richobot

 

[PowerLil]

I think it comes down to a few things, the biggest one being whether Carr has already signed a contract to be the next head coach with a rolling start date. And that MAY have already happened a while ago - quite possibly during season 2023.

If that is the case, if Port want to give Hinkley a further extension (for 2026 and 2027), then the issue becomes one of how can anyone in their right mind have signed a senior coach to a contract that wouldn't be enacted for 4 years AFTER the contract had been originally signed. The alternative would be to rip that contract up, in which case the payout could be close to 2M.

The Board are in the stickiest of situations if they want to play it out like this, and it will be a situation entirely of their making with no one else to blame.

May have signed?

 

[Chewy316]

Chewy, its almost unheard of for a coach to go deep into the final year of his contract without either getting an extension, or getting sacked! Based on historic precedents, Hinkley is entering 2025 on extremely shaky ground. Then as the season progresses, the pressure is going to mount exponentially, one way or other!
1] Perform poorly over the first two months, and everyone will be baying for his blood!
1] Perform well over the same period, and the pressure on the club to extend him will be immense! At the very least they will be forced to announce what their future plans are regarding Ken &/or any succession.

So IMO we will know fairly early in the season what direction the club will take.

Agreed, though the pressure becomes zero if they publicly announce a succession plan with Carr to take over in 2026.

May have signed?

Carr may have signed a contract to be the next senior coach back in 2023, yes. I say "may" because I'm not certain of it. Some people have said he has, others say he hasn't. But thinking with that hypothetical in mind, it makes for a very awkward situation for the Board going forward.

 

[philreich]

Chewy, its almost unheard of for a coach to go deep into the final year of his contract without either getting an extension, or getting sacked! Based on historic precedents, Hinkley is entering 2025 on extremely shaky ground. Then as the season progresses, the pressure is going to mount exponentially, one way or other!
1] Perform poorly over the first two months, and everyone will be baying for his blood!
1] Perform well over the same period, and the pressure on the club to extend him will be immense! At the very least they will be forced to announce what their future plans are regarding Ken &/or any succession.

So IMO we will know fairly early in the season what direction the club will take.

Which is why I want the toughest possible draw for the first 6 weeks. If we're 1-5 or 0-6, the pressure on Donuts will be immense.

 

[PowerLil]

Agreed, though the pressure becomes zero if they publicly announce a succession plan with Carr to take over in 2026.



Carr may have signed a contract to be the next senior coach back in 2023, yes. I say "may" because I'm not certain of it. Some people have said he has, others say he hasn't. But thinking with that hypothetical in mind, it makes for a very awkward situation for the Board going forward.