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In the Coll game, Hickey was called for a block when Cloke deputised in the ruck. Hickey jumped and Cloke stayed on the ground. Ump called it because Hickey looked at the non ruckman who was out of place, not because he blocked at all. The rule is bunkum and is in place for 3rd man up...

The most galling two decisions of the day were the shocking call by Boomer in the 2nd that the stormtrooper umpire agreed with (these are not the droids you're looking for) and the appalling call on Gresh when Ziebel cannoned into his legs. I can't stand the ruck calls on 2 man contests...

Acres is young BJ Webster is Peckett Newnes is D. Grant

I wonder if the AFL have wind of what WADA are preparing to dish out. Maybe there will be some synergy between the two. We may lose Jake for 2-4 weeks. Hopefully if the WADA ban is similar, the two can be served concurrently.

I'm of the view that us suspending Carlisle won't achieve much. Our team suffers and there's not much Jake will get from that.....he'll still get paid, albeit slightly reduced if reports of the contract being rewritten. I think a stint volunteering at a drug rehab centre would be a far more...

Well said.....thanks. All clubs have their good and bad folk. It seems the no DH policy is strong at the Saints ATM. Your mob look like they've started the same route. It's long and heart wrenching but when the good times roll again, it's all worth it. The best appointment you made recently...

If only he'd grown up on 'literally' the other side of the street, he would have been zoned to us back in the 60s. (Sigh)

Jake's cola of choice will be Pepsi going forward. And yes, that's spelled correctly

Perhaps we should have gone for Bennell, we could have set up a recovery group therapy session. This will "blow" over but I'm keen to know if there will be any repercussions on McConnville or Ess on their shady dealings here. After hearing Matt Finnis this afternoon on SEN, I get the distinct...

I just hope the reason we didn't get deals done today was because of outside influences

Hey, I'm so over the wait. Can't tell from any of this where this Carlilse deal is all going. Three days out and still we're no closer. Hope you're all doing well. All sorts of speculation, just think...the more variation in the speculation....the more wrong articles written. Over 40...

Nah just like the chat. Interested in other teams supporter's opinions. Not a troll. Most of you guys are quite reasonable. Like all online boards it takes all types

Hopefully

It doesn't mean squat when you have as much room in the cap as we do. Yes it's averaged but it's still a factor here. Lots of love Kermit

Last I checked, the Dixon and Treloar deals are still up in the air. Why? Because OOC muddies the water, as it has in the Carlilse deal. Just not being played out as publicly. Over 40 years on this earth.......Just once Saints......PLEASE!

Agreed, I think it will go to anther level or two of ridiculous before something like the 5 & either 2nd or 3rd rounder for Carlilse goes thru and both teams sit back and ask "was it worth all the stress?" [emoji37] Over 40 years on this earth.......Just once Saints......PLEASE!

Plenty of trades don't get done before the deadline. The manager can't force the clubs to deal. I hope it doesn't happen but it is a possibility. Over 40 years on this earth.......Just once Saints......PLEASE!

It's a fair bet as we have priced him out of other clubs with a front ended contract. In the end if we don't get him, we'll still have NSD 5. I guess that's why the Saints are holding firm, especially after the statement from Carlilse's camp saying he's committed to the Saints. I hope a deal is...

.....and your club isn't trying to win? It seems both have their stance and both haven't moved much. I suspect mediation is in order. Otherwise you get nothing as he'll go to the PSD.

C'mon, you really think that Bains is paying games and Dodoro isn't? They both are playing games.....it comes with the territory. Dodoro played it out more in the media. That's playing games too. Be fair.

Yes but there are a few things that count against your position that slightly downgrade your position. That's why pure numbers don't work here.

That's a good point. There's a few extra caveats in this case.

I think you are close to the mark. I'm thinking there is a bit of trepidation about the trading of the future picks.

We give 5 in this deal and get Carlisle and Freeman. I suppose that's the difference. I don't think a straight swap for 5 on Carlisle will be possible now

It's fair for all i guess. Carlisle for 15 and part of the bonus of improving 23 to 18. Not getting the kitchen sink I'll grant but certainly no getting stiffed

No, Ess swap Carlisle and 23 for 15 & 18

Hey, certainly not a troll here. Anyone hear the caller Finey had last night on SEN called Dragen. He had a great 4 way deal to solve the Carlisle deal, seemed to satisfy all the needs of StK, Ess, Haw & Coll. StK get Carlisle and Freeman, give 5. Haw get 5, give 15 & 18. Ess get 15 & 18, give...

...and pick 5 is just as unproven. We could flunk and get a Watts, Tambling or Gumbleton.

....agreed, it's not what we hoped for as supporters. That said, it does represent what we were apparently happy to accept early on. I hope we get him via PSD but think that a deal will be the more likely result. There's still 5 and a half days of the trade period left