List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Trade FA Megathread

[Half Back Pocket]

Seb Ross to Carlton/Richmond for 2nd rounder...both teams underachieving, both coaches under the pumpkin

 

[karaoke]

Kyle Martin a Collingwood rookie is getting massive possessions and is unlikely to get a senior midfield role unless he moves. Broomhead is also in a similar position. Obviously there is Sydney with Mitchell and their second tier forwards who are unlikely to get game time. Jaksche, Plowman, Corr, Srewart and Mc Carthy are all surplus at the giants.

Prefer Josh Thomas myself.

 

[HayesTheChamp]

It wasn't that long ago everyone rated Goddard as the 1st pick.

I've heard that Hugh Goddard has pumped himself up massively - even more so than Brendon, when he was drafted. Not sure that's the type of kid we want TBH.

 

[dewah07]

I've heard that Hugh Goddard has pumped himself up massively - even more so than Brendon, when he was drafted. Not sure that's the type of kid we want TBH.

that seems like pretty crap info you have heard. seems like a normal kid.

 

[HayesTheChamp]

that seems like pretty crap info you have heard. seems like a normal kid.

I'm just reiterating what a coupla guys who've played cricket with him through juniors, told me. Obviously back our recruiters to pick the right kids.

 

[dewah07]

I'm just reiterating what a coupla guys who've played cricket with him through juniors, told me. Obviously back our recruiters to pick the right kids.

interesting because all i have seen is a young leader

 

[CALL ME SNAKE]

interesting because all i have seen is a young leader

Who knows, maybe he is like a young Carey or Buckley . A natural leader who is very head strong and sure of himself. Nothing wrong with a bit of confident arrogance. Will be interesting to follow his career.

 

[gringo2011]

interesting because all i have seen is a young leader

I really liked the idea of Goddard as our first pick but we really need a FF or at least KF and with the Falcons playing him predominantly as a defender the value to us has dropped somewhat. Mc Cartin suits our needs better because he's that aggressive lump who some say is ready to play next year.
Does any one know what Tyler Kietel is like 26 marks and 16 goals or so in 6 games in the WAFL colts.

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

great post Stanley_Knifes like you said i'd hold off on upgrading mav for another year, unless hayes pulls the pin or we trade someone like armo. i'd then use pick 5 on bringing someone in, via the PSD or maybe a trade.

i'd love for us to trade someone out and bring in someone in the PSD get a JOR and Jacksch. i think we need an outside mid and a tall, not a ruck but a genuine tall like a KPF or KPD

Yep!! That's now both you and Richo who agree with me

We need a KPF (probably a second tall, ideally a swingman) as well as 2 or 3 speedy outside mids which you'd hope we pick up over the next 2 drafts.

I think we need to turn over the bottom 10 on our list and replace them over the next 2 drafts with quality, (at least 2 with the potential to be elite....you'd hope maybe a 3rd but now I'm being greedy I know)!!

The more I look at it, the more I think it's going to be at least 3 years before we see real results. A tad pessimistic maybe but if people want to compare to Port, well they were down for 5 or 6 years. All they needed was a coach and off field admin who could implement a working framework to run the club on and off the field which they did in Kochie and Hinkley.

We've done the same in terms of Summers, Finnis, & Richardson. Big tick there but we don't have the cattle - especially elite. Another 2 or 3 top 5 draft picks will help. The next draft I've read goes quite deep which is good. You've also got to hope that our 2nd round picks will all be early 20's which should be a decent player so there is 6 players over 2 years. Throw in a trade - that makes it 7.

So draft a tall with our first draft pick either 1-3 and then a speedy mid at our second which will be at pick 20-25 depending on free agency....

 

[Periphery]

According to a poster in the U18 Champs thread Tom Lamb punched someone in the face during the SA v V/Country game. Looks like our plans to have him drop to our second pick are coming to fruition!

But on a more serious note: no dickheads please.

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

According to a poster in the U18 Champs thread Tom Lamb punched someone in the face during the SA v V/Country game. Looks like our plans to have him drop to our second pick are coming to fruition!

But on a more serious note: no dickheads please.

Certainly sounds like a potential Jack Darling strategy!

 

[Manimal_Dunstan]

If Lamb was at our second pick i reckon we'd snap him up.

 

[Dopey BJ]

According to a poster in the U18 Champs thread Tom Lamb punched someone in the face during the SA v V/Country game. Looks like our plans to have him drop to our second pick are coming to fruition!

But on a more serious note: no dickheads please.

If true this should end any talk of Grandfather, Grandson recruiting in this years draft.
We can't afford to gamble a top 25 pick.

 

[Dopey BJ]

If Lamb was at our second pick i reckon we'd snap him up.

I don't think your giving Trout enough credit.

 

[Half Back Pocket]

Yep!! That's now both you and Richo who agree with me

We need a KPF (probably a second tall, ideally a swingman) as well as 2 or 3 speedy outside mids which you'd hope we pick up over the next 2 drafts.

I think we need to turn over the bottom 10 on our list and replace them over the next 2 drafts with quality, (at least 2 with the potential to be elite....you'd hope maybe a 3rd but now I'm being greedy I know)!!

The more I look at it, the more I think it's going to be at least 3 years before we see real results. A tad pessimistic maybe but if people want to compare to Port, well they were down for 5 or 6 years. All they needed was a coach and off field admin who could implement a working framework to run the club on and off the field which they did in Kochie and Hinkley.

We've done the same in terms of Summers, Finnis, & Richardson. Big tick there but we don't have the cattle - especially elite. Another 2 or 3 top 5 draft picks will help. The next draft I've read goes quite deep which is good. You've also got to hope that our 2nd round picks will all be early 20's which should be a decent player so there is 6 players over 2 years. Throw in a trade - that makes it 7.

So draft a tall with our first draft pick either 1-3 and then a speedy mid at our second which will be at pick 20-25 depending on free agency....

Still need another KPD as well smoke (even if he's developmental).

2 Key forwards
1 Key back
3 fast outside mids
2 Elite mids who are good inside and out

I'd still like to get Reece McKenzie. Apparently was better then Wright again yesterday. Could be good value for a 2nd rounder

Clearly we need more early picks!

 

[Manimal_Dunstan]

I don't think your giving Trout enough credit.

Perhaps... I just would do anything to fix out forward line haha

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

Still need another KPD as well smoke (even if he's developmental).

2 Key forwards
1 Key back
3 fast outside mids
2 Elite mids who are good inside and out

I'd still like to get Reece McKenzie. Apparently was better then Wright again yesterday. Could be good value for a 2nd rounder

Clearly we need more early picks!

Totally agree. You've made the case much more clearly than I!

Yes we do need more picks, the problem is how do we get that? One of the elite mids you mention will be from free agency, and a second free agent will be maybe a tall or an outside mid.

So take away 2 from that number and you're left with 6 positions. 3 1st round top 5 picks and 3 second round picks 20-25 perhaps??

If Reece McKenzie is continually better than Wright maybe he won't last until our second pick

 

[Half Back Pocket]

We need to trade out someone, even for a 2nd rounder....maybe package up 2 x 2nd rounders to a Hawthorn/Geelong for their 1st?

 

[God Save Max King]

We need to trade out someone, even for a 2nd rounder....maybe package up 2 x 2nd rounders to a Hawthorn/Geelong for their 1st?

I'd rather have 2 chances in the draft, especially in the top 30. You just never know with "sliders".

 

[aussierulesrules]

Sounds like another underwhelming performance by Peter Wright yesterday, which may make the no.1 pick in the draft a lot more difficult to predict and may in fact mean there isn't a lot of difference between say pick 1 and pick 3 after all.

Wright and Boyd play similar sorts of games, are a similar size and height, yet Boyd was completely dominating the champs (and the TAC Cup) until he did his ankle last year, while Wright on the other hand appears to be just travelling and that's about it, against the better opposition, so I don't think there's necessarily a clear standout this year like there are most years.

I'd still be very very open to the strategy of trading our first pick this year for Sheil (and hopefully something else appealing, in a package deal) if we believed we'd be a huge chance to get a Boyd, Cameron, or Patton next year. I think I'd much prefer either Boyd or Cameron to any of Wright/McCartin/Durdin/Goddard, by the sounds of it. Would obviously much prefer to get Sheil by other means though. That would be epic.

 

[Manimal_Dunstan]

I'd be happy with our first rounder, a priority first round pick, our second round pick and trading for a early second round pick.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Seb Ross to Carlton/Richmond for 2nd rounder...both teams underachieving, both coaches under the pumpkin

Bombers might be interested in Jobe's cousin.

 

[Manimal_Dunstan]

Are we seriously already considering giving up on a young player just 3 years into his 17 game career?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

For those of you talking about trading Jack Steven, personally I'd be reluctant to unless someone was prepared to pay overs for him.

I know his foot skills at times can be poor (Friday night), but those can be improved, and the one thing he does have, which we're lacking, is pace and that can't be taught.

You know , I don't think we should trade ANYONE unless we get overs for them. People were upset with McEvoy leaving, but hell it was worth it.
The overs you get would have to depend on the players.

To be honest I can't see how we can achieve any extra early picks this year.

Someone like Armitage along with a second round pick might get us a mid to late first rounder I suppose.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Are we seriously already considering giving up on a young player just 3 years into his 17 game career?

Not giving up. TRADING.
Not worth doing if we didn't get the right trade.