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List Mgmt. 2016 Free Agency/Trades/Draft thread Part 2
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3 lines in the water for the one fish IMO
Almost as many lines as Redhorse has in the water.
I liked him in his draft year but i wouldn't give up our 1st rounder now.
Try to look at it from the club's overall manoeuvring for picks position, and not each individual player's perceived worth in trades:
Selections before academy and father/son bidding: 15, 26, 28, 46, 67, 79
Selections after bidding: 21, 31, 33, 43
North's first activity in the trade period was the Anderson deal - they gave away a 1st (15) and a 3rd round (54) and requested two 2nd round picks (38 & 40) back in the process - for use in future trades during the period.
From here, North knew GC and Brisbane were going to come in for Dan Currie and Ryan Bastinac respectively, and they did..
GC gave North pick 53 for Currie, a pick North knew full well they were never actually going to use in the draft, so by your logic that would suggest Currie was valued by North in the trade at.... actually, nothing..... correct? He was virtually "cleared off the books" so to speak.
Brisbane then came in with the extra 1st they received for Jack Redden (17) and a 2nd (26) in exchange for Ryan Bastinac, two 2nd rounders (38 & 40 - the picks Hawthorn gave them) and a future 3rd rounder.
So the picks they received in return for Anderson were nothing more than a barganing chip to ensure Brisbane would hand over their 1st and 2nd in the deal (replacing the 1st they handed over for Anderson) as Brisbane's Academy bidding process was solely dependant upon having enough points available for Schache, Hipwood, Keays and Mathieson.
With the introduction of Academy bidding, it muddied the waters as to viewing individual players' worth in potential deals, especially due to the frequency at which other non-Academy clubs dealt with those Academy clubs. It has now become a rat-race of clubs trying to jostle for prized earlier picks the Academy clubs hold less value for. The AFL created this mechanism and now frowns upon it, which inevitably led to the tinkering process we're now seeing.
Don't be fooled by an individual club's transactions in the marketplace, recruiters have an eye on the bigger picture in every deal they undertake, now more so than ever before.
Those picks Hawthorn handed over in the deal were nothing more than required bargaining chips used to satisfy Brisbane's points requirements and secure replacement earlier round picks, the only pick North handed over to the Hawks that held any currency or relevance was their 1st round pick (15), thus valuing Anderson as much.
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South Australian players don't seem to rate highly interstate in draft predictions no matter how we play. I cant see one player in top 25.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-08/callum-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-september-edition
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-08/callum-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-september-edition
Victorians are becoming just as worried about the go home factor as everyone else I think is part of it. So they're subconsciously rating them lower, human nature.
Grigg wasn't "killed" by the Sub rule, he was the biggest beneficiary of it.
At the start of last year, Adelaide had a policy of not wanting to have the same player as sub for consecutive games. The reason for that was fairly obvious - they usually only got to play about 1/4 of the game, and the selectors didn't want them to lose form & match fitness. As a result, Lyons and Grigg started the season by swapping positions - they alternated between sub & SANFL. Without the sub rule in place, Lyons would have played more of those games and Grigg would have spent more time in the SANFL.
I still think he'll be playing for Norwood next year. Can't see him attracting too much attention from the other AFL clubs, not even Carlton.
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Seems to me that that particular phrase would represent 3 clubs and one player. I think what would make more sense would be one line in the water, hoping one of three fish bites.
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Like Port have with Dixon? That went well.
He signed a long term deal last year I think.
I think our recruiters have shown themselves to be a fair bit better than Ports.
TexForPM
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yep 5 or 6 years
Tippett went to Sydney because they offered him big coin. I'm not so convinced that's the reason he left Adelaide in the first place. I think it just determined where he ended up once the decision to leave had already been made.
This post is history in the making - the first time you've ever posted anything positive about the AFC and the way that it is run. Congratulations!
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well there you go. its near impossible to get anything out of the club now days.
i do find Redhorse entertaining but i doubt he gets any info from within AFC.
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Cant remember if it was redhorse but my recollection was that we were into him in a big way and that if we didn't get him during the end of 2015 trade period we were likely to get him in 2016 trade.
Not sure if there was anything definitive about all that though. Regardless I think what ever is posted here about trades needs to be taken in the context that information and situations can change.
Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean is all bull. Situation could be at a point in time said player indicates he wants to come but for whatever reason changes his mind. Likewise it could be all rubbish.
Too many people get worked up about information posted about the 200kg Tuna we are chasing. You can either believe it, don't believe or take it with a grain of salt.
Port Adelaide are banking on this happening for them.
They had a three way with those two as recent as last year
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as i said its all a bit of fun, but it would be nice if there was an element of truth and not just straight out trolling.
parker to the crows was straight out trolling.
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Thanks Jeff hope you have a good day. You have just ruined mine....
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