List Mgmt. 2016 Trade and Free Agency Targets Part 2

[joop]

You really think that will happen?

Probably not, but when has that even been a pre-requisite of posting in this thread?

 

[gringo2011]

Are saints enquiring about Motlop?

I would wonder why the Cats would let him go, he's very good player and you don't shop them around unless there are issues.

 

[Gangnam Saint]

400k + over 5 from saints

how on earth could he turn that down.

OK then very good.....well it's a school night so time to get into your jimjams and take yourself off to bed.

 

[gringo2011]

Someone's a smartarse I see.. not even a funny smartarse, my comment was aimed at north being geriatrics.


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Yeah, I got it but I thought it was a pretty funny line from both of you. I didn't think he was smart arseing.

 

[St Neil]

Don't think that Hawthorn would give up their first pick for Longer.

Maybe not. We can then just do the deal with Sydney using pick 10, they may even throw a later pick back our way if they aren't going to use it.

 

[STK2020]

Are saints enquiring about Motlop?
X factor we could use or too risky?

No but he will ......

 

[Plumber66]

Someone's a smartarse I see.. not even a funny smartarse, my comment was aimed at north being geriatrics.


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Just having fun. Chill.

 

[Simple Jack]

The fact that the academy kids who are potentially top 3 draft picks can be graded as worth a handful of later picks says that it really only benefits their new franchise clubs and Sydney how ever they came up with it. If it's of any benefit we should bundle up all our duds and later picks and swap them for Bontempelli.

Yeah, it's a huge rort. Would anyone trade a whole bunch of picks in the 40s for pick 1? Of course not. Yet that's what the northern teams could have done.

 

[Plumber66]

How many times does this need to be repeated before people get it through their thick skulls..

Our pick 10 for picks 34/35/46 is the exact same value under the points system, would you people do that trade? No you wouldn't, so stop using the points system as a guide for trades because it doesn't work.

Please repeat it once more on the count of skull being a few mm thicker than most.

 

[Saintleigh]

Yeah, I got it but I thought it was a pretty funny line from both of you. I didn't think he was smart arseing.

I'm fairly new so I guess I don't understand the humour yet..

I'm a Tom Mitchell fan, bring him in.


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[Kilroy]

Spot on. Add three gifts in your best 15 (or so), and that is a huge leg up. Pity Geelong had an even bigger leg up when we were competing with them for a flag.

Don't look now! 21 potential father/sons from premiership players in 2034.



Rigged.

 

[Plumber66]

Don't look now! 21 potential father/sons from premiership players in 2034.

Oh well, at least we'll have a pretty strong father daughter women's team in the near future. 8 of them will be Pecketts and a few Burkes.

 

[Plumber66]

I'm fairly new so I guess I don't understand the humour yet..

I'm a Tom Mitchell fan, bring him in.


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Don't stress. Mum just told me to shut down and go to bed.

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

Drew Carey and Wayne Brady for pick 10?

Nah mate - Ryan Styles as that key defender with Colin Mochrie off the half back line - those two work well together

 

[Quixote]

Don't look now! 21 potential father/sons from premiership players in 2034.



Rigged.

OK that makes me sick. G'night and good luck.

 

[Keg on legs]

Billy to Carlton for 23

10 and 23 to GC

Pick 4 back



Crazy? Probably. But it's that time of year isn't it!

 

[sonnywalters]

How many times does this need to be repeated before people get it through their thick skulls..

Our pick 10 for picks 34/35/46 is the exact same value under the points system, would you people do that trade? No you wouldn't, so stop using the points system as a guide for trades because it doesn't work.

When are people going to get statistics through their thick skulls. It is a guide. Merely a guide. No you wouldnt do that exact trade - especially in our position. But for certain trades the points system can be used as a guide.
The points system is based on probabilities. Over a long period - on average - those picks (points) would yield similar player outcomes. That is how the points were allocated.
It is based on averages and thus not a perfect measure.

Some examples - Liam Sumner, Daniel Gorringe, Melksham, Freeman were pick 10s.
Dangerfield & Daniher pick 10s.

Dempster, Connor Blakely and Max Gawn pick 34s.

In the Saints position we already have a core squad of young talent - we only need a few young guns to supplement our list so we definitely should look to keep pick 10.

But what if you were a North and looking at a complete re-build? You might look at getting more picks in the draft.
I think the Saints were smart because we tried to get decent draft picks by trading away players who were over their peak (NDS, Goddard).

Noone is saying the points system should be used narrowly and religiously. But it is a rough guide. It is more rigorous and evidence based than the 'gut feel' of people on bigfooty.

 

[StKing11]

Don't look now! 21 potential father/sons from premiership players in 2034.



Rigged.

Olly? Boh? Aston? Jett? Alfie? Jagger? Archie? Louie? Oscar? Monty? Hugo?

Some seriously flog names in that list lmao what are the Cats boys thinking..

 

[joop]

Don't stress. Mum just told me to shut down and go to bed.

Yeh you're annoying us, hurry up.

 

[joop]

Olly? Boh? Aston? Jett? Alfie? Jagger? Archie? Louie? Oscar? Monty? Hugo?

Some seriously flog names in that list lmao what are the Cats boys thinking..

Besides Aston what's wrong with them?

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

I would wonder why the Cats would let him go, he's very good player and you don't shop them around unless there are issues.

Heard he had a big falling out with the coach and I've also heard he's off to the Dogs....

 

[BarkerFan]

We can only hope. Even better if their drop down the ladder coincides with their move to Dingley. Right now their fans are accepting the move away from Hawks heartland because they have three shiny new cups in the cupboard. Add some wooden spoons and they might not be so cordial. Can only be good for us if a weakened Hawthorn try and move onto our territory rather than a powerful Hawthorn.

all this stuff about Hawks being ``able to take risks" is easy to say when their core group was so strong... but some of these will start to hurt them in the next few years...
making mistakes during any single trade period can hurt for years to come...
Saints 2009 will hurt us for a few years yet...

 

[Lightsxo]

Don't look now! 21 potential father/sons from premiership players in 2034.



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Hope we have a look at Jack Kelly.

 

[BrianSpeaking]

Sinclair and Templeton on the trade table, wonder if we will get a second rounder for either?

 

[Ekomaira]

Sincs