Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion

[ferrisb]

The trick is to do a 'Luke Ball'.

Say you want to offer Fyfe 6.5M over 5 years.

You offer him 6M over 3 years and then wink wink, nudge nudge, he signs an extension for 250k a season for next two years... At least that's the theory.

Freo would be mad to match an official 6M/3yr offer for a player that doesn't want to be there...

 

[GapInIkonPark]

We use later picks/points for him. That's why we'd sooner let go of the '18 and not the '17.......if we had a choice.

And our next pick would be fourth round or later? Doesn't work for me.

 

[GapInIkonPark]

I vote for no only because I feel Cunningham will offer a similar output in 2018

I thought Cuningham was very good in his 3 games after injury and NB action. Showed plenty of run and an appetite for the contest.

 

[Red Bull]

Does the distribution of the salary even affect their ability to match the offer sheet? I know it seems logical, but all they have to do is stump up the same amount over the same period, front-loading might not cut it.

If you were Freo would you match the kind of offer Ferrisb has outlined above for a player who has said he doesn't want to be at your club ?
They'll get a 1st round compo pick , better than what Hawthorn received for Franklin .
Sometimes it's better to just move on .
The difference in the Dangerfield case i imagine was , Geelong didn't have the capacity salary cap wise to make a large enough offer up front to force Adelaide to pass on matching.

 

[HBF]

A lot want to come home.... they dont like sydney.

Sounds like only Patton is enjoying living up there.
I'd be throwing the kitchen sink at Shiel.

 

[ajb72]

2017 season hasnt even started yet and people are into the next trade period already.........sheesh.

 

[sosos]

The trick is to do a 'Luke Ball'.

Say you want to offer Fyfe 6.5M over 5 years.

You offer him 6M over 3 years and then wink wink, nudge nudge, he signs an extension for 250k a season for next two years... At least that's the theory.

Freo would be mad to match an official 6M/3yr offer for a player that doesn't want to be there...

Your logic makes sense but I would steer well clear of anything even faintly dodgy.

 

[Red Bull]

2017 season hasnt even started yet and people are into the next trade period already.........sheesh.

The future belongs to those who plan for it ...

 

[thylacine60]

not until you can snatch the pebble from my hand, RB..........

 

[therubbernub]

If you were Freo would you match the kind of offer Ferrisb has outlined above for a player who has said he doesn't want to be at your club ?

Have we gone from "ï wonder if fyffe is one of the marquee players we will be chasing end of 2017" to " Fyffe says he wants out and is coming to the blues" without him saying anything? Talk about Chinese whispers (not meant to be racist in any way- in any case a chinese mate of mine doesnt find it offensive so please dont call me a racist cos I really wasnt trying to be)

 

[SurreyBlue]

2017 season hasnt even started yet and people are into the next trade period already.........sheesh.

Unfortunately, its a change in a Carlton supporters mentality of late.
I tend to still believe and even try to keep positive that we can play finals in 2017.
I will keep an eye on trades, be silly not too, but main focus is paying finals in 2017!

 

[Red Bull]

Have we gone from "ï wonder if fyffe is one of the marquee players we will be chasing end of 2017" to " Fyffe says he wants out and is coming to the blues" without him saying anything? Talk about Chinese whispers (not meant to be racist in any way- in any case a chinese mate of mine doesnt find it offensive so please dont call me a racist cos I really wasnt trying to be)

Just off season list management discussion in the list management thread and until Fyfe re signs with Freo , i guess the discussion will continue ...

 

[therubbernub]

Just off season list management discussion in the list management thread and until Fyfe re signs with Freo , i guess the discussion will continue ...

I get that. But has fyffe actually said that he doesnt want to be at the club (freo)? - which is what you actually wrote

 

[Red Bull]

I get that. But has fyffe actually said that he doesnt want to be at the club (freo)? - which is what you actually wrote

This is off season bigfooty list management discussion mate .
Not interested in courtroom nitpicking ...

 

[Red Bull]

I get that. But has fyffe actually said that he doesnt want to be at the club (freo)? - which is what you actually wrote

This is off season bigfooty list management discussion mate .
Not interested in courtroom nitpicking ...

 

[ferrisb]

The court orders Red Bull's last post be stricken from the record; repetitive...

 

[therubbernub]

This is off season bigfooty list management discussion mate .
Not interested in courtroom nitpicking ...

not nitpicking. has he said it? Have I missed it? Or are you speculating?

 

[Soapy V]

2017 season hasnt even started yet and people are into the next trade period already.........sheesh.

it's because its the third year of a 3 year rebuild the club has put in place that will finally take us back to the top. It's exciting and not before time.

Nothing but a positive

 

[Red Bull]

The court orders Red Bull's last post be stricken from the record; repetitive...

Guilty
I'll pay all court costs and see myself out

 

[TheKing101]

2017 season hasnt even started yet and people are into the next trade period already.........sheesh.

Nothing wrong with looking at potential future trades. Gives us something to talk about rather than who will be cut next year and the players ready to take the rising star award!

 

[Red Bull]

not nitpicking. has he said it? Have I missed it? Or are you speculating?

Call my lawyer mate ...

 

[thylacine60]

Next case, the Crown versus the Carlton Football Club. The charge - false advertising. I call Michael Malthouse to the stand.

 

[viking12]

the marquee player were are going after particularly if its a midfielder must be one that impacts the game and provides damage.

 

[Jabba73]

Next case, the Crown versus the Carlton Football Club. The charge - false advertising. I call Michael Malthouse to the stand.

Objection. Asked and answered.

 

[ferrisb]

Next case, the Crown versus the Carlton Football Club. The charge - false advertising. I call Michael Malthouse to the stand.

Malthouse is a co-accused, charged with:

Attempted murder - Exhibit A is our list management 2013-2015
Theft - stealing three years' worth of pay.
Fraud - Liam Jones' contract
Arson - after setting fire to fans' hope

Is should be noted that the defense will be arguing mitigating circumstances and reduced damages as the subsequent appointment of Bolton as coach has minimised pain and suffering.