List Mgmt. 2019 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals Thread

[The King!]

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Why would we pay overs when we could pretty much get him for free next year? I would love to see him here next year, but not if it means making an unnecessarily costly trade.

Dodoro is a funny one. Notoriously hard to deal with, but look where all his pig-headedness has gotten their list.

The only way you get him free next year is if he goes to the Pre Season draft, and unless the Swans finished last (unlikely?) you would have to hope other clubs dont select him?

remember he is RFA, not a FA.

 

[Olian]

unsure where you get the info we have salary cap issues.........can you share?

there's another swans poster who has been doing it on the main trade thread who refuses to provide where he got his source. Are you just repeating what they are saying?

Apparently Daniher will join the Swans and play in front of empty stands with fickle fans. It’s amazing what you can read on opposition threads.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

unsure where you get the info we have salary cap issues?.........can you share? There is literally zero chat about this in our folds and its not something reported on.

there's another swans poster who has been doing it on the main trade thread who refuses to provide where he got his source. Are you just repeating what they are saying?

Go have a speed jog on with Bomber and Tird... Personally I do not think you are welcome here.

 

[The King!]

The only way you get him free next year is if he goes to the Pre Season draft, and unless the Swans finished last (unlikely?) you would have to hope other clubs dont select him?

remember he is RFA, not a FA.

good point, will be interesting how it plays out

 

[S120]

Nick Davis sorted Bud's goal kicking out, get him on the case with Daniher.

 

[Olian]

The only way you get him free next year is if he goes to the Pre Season draft, and unless the Swans finished last (unlikely?) you would have to hope other clubs dont select him?

remember he is RFA, not a FA.

Can you provide any examples of free agent offers being matched? Also when was the last time a player nominated a club in the preseason draft and didn’t end up at the desired club?

 

[SSwans2011]

The only way you get him free next year is if he goes to the Pre Season draft, and unless the Swans finished last (unlikely?) you would have to hope other clubs dont select him?

remember he is RFA, not a FA.

Same deal as Tippett - nobody would touch him. Why would any club want a player on their list at around $1 million per season that doesn't want to be there? Most clubs are learning it's not wise to keep (and more particularly, sign) players that don't want to be there.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Apparently Daniher will join the Swans and play in front of empty stands with fickle fans. It’s amazing what you can read on opposition threads.

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i think you would only be kidding yourself if you think Swans fans show up when they arent winning..its pretty widely known......Like most smaller membership clubs. If you think me calling your fans fickle is a new thing then your new to AFL...

prefer to just discuss the Daniher trade boss - think i'm more then welcome to discuss the daniher trade in here as long as i'm respectful when i'm in the oppo house no?

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Can you provide any examples of free agent offers being matched? Also when was the last time a player nominated a club in the preseason draft and didn’t end up at the desired club?

Mind you I dont think he will go to the draft, hence you will not get him for free.

If Daniher goes to the Draft, and Swans finish say 8-10, do you really think 8-10 clubs are going to pass on him?

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Same deal as Tippett - nobody would touch him. Why would any club want a player on their list at around $1 million per season that doesn't want to be there? Most clubs are learning it's not wise to keep (and more particularly, sign) players that don't want to be there.

wasnt tippet a FA? i dont think he was restricted?

 

[Opts]

It will get done mate.

We don’t knock back players coming to us with Danihers talent.

That's what worries me Punts. I'm not concerned about whether the deal gets done. I'm sure it will. I'm concerned that the club will get reamed like we normally and consistently do. We have to keep our first pick.

 

[ScrewInStuds]

Apparently Daniher will join the Swans and play in front of empty stands with fickle fans. It’s amazing what you can read on opposition threads.

I guess when you're willing to defend your club even after they run a systematic doping program, everyone else must seem "fickle" by comparison.

 

[SSwans2011]

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i think you would only be kidding yourself if you think Swans fans show up when they arent winning..its pretty widely known......Like most smaller membership clubs. If you think me calling your fans fickle is a new thing then your new to AFL...

prefer to just discuss the Daniher trade boss - think i'm more then welcome to discuss the daniher trade in here as long as i'm respectful when i'm in the oppo house no?

Except we averaged over 30k for home matches this year, which is pretty standard.

On the other hand, what were Essendon crowds like in 2016 compared to 2019?

 

[Millky95]

wasnt tippet a FA? i dont think he was restricted?

Don't think FA was a thing at the time. But no we get him in the pre-season draft

I don't see him coming over here. This year at least. Also don't want to lose Papley because of it. Rather another mid

 

[SSwans2011]

wasnt tippet a FA? i dont think he was restricted?

No, we got him with the last pick of the first round of the pre-season draft. Despite a number of other clubs being interested in picking him up.

 

[Wolfgang West]

It will get done mate.

We don’t knock back players coming to us with Danihers talent.

I was sceptical about it at first because I thought it could be just a ploy to drive up a price and extension. Lets face it a bloke of his talent that has barely played the last couple of years can only do things that way otherwise his club hold the whip hand without him playing and driving up his price. Having said that after what i heard this morning i am convinced it is really on the cards and the only 2 things that stand in the way is him changing his mind or a trade not getting done. A trade not getting done is a real possibility though when you consider Dedoro and taking into account hopefully our club refusing to be shafted. For starters Would like to see him come out and say he would like to be traded to Us just to get the ball rolling.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Except we averaged over 30k for home matches this year, which is pretty standard.

On the other hand, what were Essendon crowds like in 2016 compared to 2019?

not exactly a fair comparison...but since we have consistently been shit for 15 odd years we have done pretty well



anyways can we stick to Daniher trade, not interested in filling your thread with semantic shit....

 

[Opts]

We had multiple years remaining on Hannebery's contract, it isn't the same situation.

1 vs 2 years remaining on the contracts makes a difference? Don't think so. Both players are riddled with injuries (coincidentally OP) that the medicos can't fix and both clubs are looking to move them on to free up salary cap room.

 

[The King!]

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i think you would only be kidding yourself if you think Swans fans show up when they arent winning..its pretty widely known......Like most smaller membership clubs. If you think me calling your fans fickle is a new thing then your new to AFL...

prefer to just discuss the Daniher trade boss - think i'm more then welcome to discuss the daniher trade in here as long as i'm respectful when i'm in the oppo house no?

61k members? how are we small

 

[Olian]

Mind you I dont think he will go to the draft, hence you will not get him for free.

If Daniher goes to the Draft, and Swans finish say 8-10, do you really think 8-10 clubs are going to pass on him?

Only example of a player going to the draft that I could think of was Luke Ball. Pies offered their second round pick and Saints knocked it back. Pies ended up using it.

If a player nominates a club they will get their.

 

[Red_man2008]

Judd, Treloar and Dangerfield were not on contract. Papley is, so it should take a lot to dislodge him.

Give me an example of a smallforward going for two firsts in contract.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

No, we got him with the last pick of the first round of the pre-season draft. Despite a number of other clubs being interested in picking him up.

yeah fair call then..wasnt sure

maybe to do with tippets ban? not sure

dont think daniher will go to a draft though - think we will end up doing a deal prior to end of this year.

 

[Kapanis]

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i think you would only be kidding yourself if you think Swans fans show up when they arent winning..its pretty widely known......Like most smaller membership clubs. If you think me calling your fans fickle is a new thing then your new to AFL...

prefer to just discuss the Daniher trade boss - think i'm more then welcome to discuss the daniher trade in here as long as i'm respectful when i'm in the oppo house no?

**** me, have a look at crowd numbers, memberships, start with this year. All good to have serious chats about stuff but get your facts straight first, hence the hostility. Start your google search with "the most supported sports team in Australia".

 

[Banyo Bloods]

At the moment there is nothing more than rumours and journo speculation that Daniher wants to go to the Swans. I’m going to just wait and see as there is a long trade period away. Just waiting for the news report that he wants to go to the hawks and them only.