List Mgmt. 2019 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals Thread

[RobbieK]

Yeah, fancy recruiting a guy with all the talent in the world only for his body to fail him. Maybe the club should’ve done their research and recruited someone resistant to injury, oh they did with Patrick Veszpremi, Josh Willoughby or Lewis Johnston!

I feel I should point out that only one of those players was drafted within the last decade. The idea that the club is bad at drafting top end talent is well out of date.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

I feel I should point out that only one of those players was drafted within the last decade. The idea that the club is bad at drafting top end talent is well out of date.

I feel I should point out that I was responding to another poster re Ryan Fitzgerald.

 

[RobbieK]

I feel I should point out that I was responding to another poster re Ryan Fitzgerald.

I know, sorry, I didn't intend for that post to be taken as a criticism of what you wrote, more a general comment about the feelings of some on this board about our club's ability to make decisions.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I feel I should point out that I was responding to another poster re Ryan Fitzgerald.

I feel I should point out that a fellow poster may (or may not) actually BE Ryan Fitzgerald.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

I feel I should point out that a fellow poster may (or may not) actually BE Ryan Fitzgerald.

Nonsense

 

[Bandicoot]

Respectfully Disagree but I guess will play out how it will. Am hopeful he stays but if he did nominate then a deal will be struck no doubt.

I'm not so sure of that. Dedoro is extremely difficult to deal with. That's fine from an Essendon perspective but it may very well kill this trade deal.

 

[mtooler]

Dunkley isn't relevant to this discussion as you raised our first pick. Dunkley was a second round pick and would've been our second pick of the draft.

If your going to complain something is being selective in response to you to the point you demand an explanation from them, at least be consistent and don't selectively pick yourself.

Meh, wont lose sleep on this that's for sure. Must be a slow night for you?

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Just saw Papley in a room full of Carlton players and officials.

Must mean he’s gone.

 

[Edmund hunt]

All this gossip, it's like a magazine.

 

[Cadsky]

So are we at the part where fyfe declares Sydney now?

 

[Wayne Swan]

Here are the last 10 number 4 draft picks
Max King, Luke Unke-Davis, Ben Ainsworth, Clayton Oliver, Jarrod Pickett, Marcus Bontempelli, Jimmy Toupus, Will Hoskin-Elliot, Andrew Gaff, Anthony Moribito

Anyone who thinks any draft pick is a sure thing isn't paying attention

Pick 4 produces that mixed bag, talk about hits and misses! But after GC get a PP we'll have pick 5, wonder what that looks like?

Saw a post somewhere the other day about pick 56, other than two close to our heart in Ryan O'Keefe and Jordan Dawson, it had produced a number of outstanding players, at pick 56, go figure.

 

[BloodySwan]

So are we at the part where fyfe declares Sydney now?

I hear Lyon always spoke highly of Sydney and him and Nat have a close bond.

Nat doesn't like the AFL fishbowl, he just wants to play and surf. Sydney would be the perfect spot for him to get away.

Fyfe was pretty open about his disappointment with the club sacking Ross. Wouldn't surprise me if he wants to play for a club where loyalty is rewarded.

**** I could be an AFL journo

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

I'm not so sure of that. Dedoro is extremely difficult to deal with. That's fine from an Essendon perspective but it may very well kill this trade deal.

Xavier Campbell (Essendon CEO) is unaware of any interest by us i think this has been complete bs from the get go.

 

[S120]

Gold Coast reported to be close to recruiting Brad Crouch. I wish we could have him but I'd be very happy for him to go to Gold Coast as an alternative to us.

Bombshell Report Brad Crouch Is Considering An Offer To Leave Adelaide FC

“Very close”

www.fiveaa.com.au

 

[The King!]

Will the crows have 22 players next year

 

[The Gong]

I hear Lyon always spoke highly of Sydney and him and Nat have a close bond.

Nat doesn't like the AFL fishbowl, he just wants to play and surf. Sydney would be the perfect spot for him to get away.

Fyfe was pretty open about his disappointment with the club sacking Ross. Wouldn't surprise me if he wants to play for a club where loyalty is rewarded.

fu** I could be an AFL journo

Opinion presented as fact. Welcome to modern journalism. Nailed it.

 

[Tesla Tenet]

Pick 4 produces that mixed bag, talk about hits and misses! But after GC get a PP we'll have pick 5, wonder what that looks like?

Saw a post somewhere the other day about pick 56, other than two close to our heart in Ryan O'Keefe and Jordan Dawson, it had produced a number of outstanding players, at pick 56, go figure.

When you are assessing the pick and its value you have to also assess the Club as well and their development history and how the deploy them.

G Rohan is still an interesting player and the worst outcome for him would have been going to Geelong, which he did. Slow movement and playing same role withe the Cats.

I still believe he would look much better with the Bulldogs, Tigers & Eagles.

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[FreeAgent1]

Is it just me or can anyone else not see any way at all we don’t get completely screwed by saints for Zac Jones?

Surely it’s about $$ and we can just pay him. Saints at best will give something in the 30s and you just know we will accept it.

 

[Superstar swan]

We will head into the trade period expecting daniher and leave with mason wood

 

[swansfan51]

Pick 4 produces that mixed bag, talk about hits and misses! But after GC get a PP we'll have pick 5, wonder what that looks like?

Saw a post somewhere the other day about pick 56, other than two close to our heart in Ryan O'Keefe and Jordan Dawson, it had produced a number of outstanding players, at pick 56, go figure.

Indeed pick 56 has a success rate more than triple the rate of pick 57

Pick 55 though is not to be overlooked, with a success rate twice as high as pick 54

And at all cost stay clear of pick 51 which has by far the worst record of any pick in the top 64

 

[Wayne Swan]

Gold Coast reported to be close to recruiting Brad Crouch. I wish we could have him but I'd be very happy for him to go to Gold Coast as an alternative to us.

Bombshell Report Brad Crouch Is Considering An Offer To Leave Adelaide FC

“Very close”

www.fiveaa.com.au

FiveAA are a very unreliable source of rmours, three out of four "bombshells" they break eventually turn out to have no substance, click bait stuff.

 

[Wayne Swan]

Indeed pick 56 has a success rate more than triple the rate of pick 57

Pick 55 though is not to be overlooked, with a success rate twice as high as pick 54

And at all cost stay clear of pick 51 which has by far the worst record of any pick in the top 64

What about pick 5 and pick 6? our likely first pick number. I know pick 6 was a super dud pick a while back and that's the pick we'll likely have with GC PP & early match for Green by GWS.

 

[swansfan51]

What about pick 5 and pick 6? our likely first pick number. I know pick 6 was a super dud pick a while back and that's the pick we'll likely have with GC PP & early match for Green by GWS.

My post was a bit tongue in cheek.

But pick 5 is quite literally twice as successful as pick 6. Pick 6 is a statistical outlier because pick 7 and pick 5 are very similar

If you smooth out the statistical noise, these are the pick Tiers

Tier 1: picks 1-3
Tier 2: picks 4-13
Tier 3: picks 14-19 (yes you can argue the toss about merging tiers 2 and 3 but I'm sticking with it)
Tier 4: picks 20-34
Tier 5: picks 35-56
Tier 6: picks 57+ AND rookie picks 1-10
Tier 7: rookie picks 11+

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

My post was a bit tongue in cheek.

But pick 5 is quite literally twice as successful as pick 6. Pick 6 is a statistical outlier because pick 7 and pick 5 are very similar

If you smooth out the statistical noise, these are the pick Tiers

Tier 1: picks 1-3
Tier 2: picks 4-13
Tier 3: picks 14-19 (yes you can argue the toss about merging tiers 2 and 3 but I'm sticking with it)
Tier 4: picks 20-34
Tier 5: picks 35-56
Tier 6: picks 57+ AND rookie picks 1-10
Tier 7: rookie picks 11+

Gary Rohan was pick 6!!

 

[Opts]

We will head into the trade period expecting daniher and leave with mason wood

As long as we keep our first pick and keep Papley I'll be happy.