He is an assistant coach. He's on the list so they don't count his $$ against the soft cap. Ditto Burgoyne.
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He is an assistant coach. He's on the list so they don't count his $$ against the soft cap. Ditto Burgoyne.
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I think there’ll be quite a few clubs monitoring his rehab. Be interesting to see who jumps first.
Thanks for posting FG. That'a a good interview.- Reef dropping down the draft order was critical for us and first bit of luck we’ve had in a while. Especially after Adelaide not selecting him opened it up for us.
- Was asked about drafting tall midfielders (192, 193cm) and if they were here to stay
Said it was horses for courses
- Focusing more on a balance for Inside grunt as opposed to outside speed.
- We’ve had to have players on the inside but we want them on the outside receiving
- Rookies we picked today and beau mccreery have serious speed
-was asked if whether selecting players from different states is an issue. He said no but he also said Matt Rendell said it was (lol)
Just have to back out program/system
- Reef and Poulter are in positions sitting behind Pendles and Sier easing the physical pressure of Pendles and develop the young boys into their positions talking about a ‘cycle of evolution’
-Caleb Poulter was at the pub with Lachlan Jones having beers having a draft party there lol.
so sounds like Sier will be getting more of a go.
Ginnivan, Chugg, mccrerry hopefully be our outside running ball users with good disposal.
Poulter and Reef will be in and under the pack helping Taylor Adams win the ball and a few flags for us.
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Looks like your man was right about Ford.
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We don’t even have to fully replace the contributions of Treloar and Stevo. Reality is that Treloar’s replacement won’t get 30+ possessions, but if they can garner the same number of clearances, work as hard defensively as they do offensively, and use the footy better, then we’re not too far behind. If Stevo’s replacement can hit the scoreboard, be more team oriented, offer forward defensive pressure, then we’re not too far behind.
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I'll never be able to work out how a clubs recruiting dept thinks , I thought he was a given but he must be really hard headed
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I think the senior list is 36, with Keane still a rookie.
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A bit of a random takeaway from today’s draft roll out press conference.
Did anyone else find it unusual that 3 of the draftees (Reef excluded) mentioned they had only spoken to the club once each?
Is that common or would it have been because of COVID or us not thinking we’d have a play on Macrae, Henry etc? I’m sure they were talking to those around most players and watching them closely but it seems only talking with them once (where you’d get your best vibes) is not really doing your full due diligence. In saying that all the Vic boys seem like they have good heads on their shoulders so hopefully it all pans out well.
Although not knowing how a draft would play out I suppose you’d have to speak to 80 kids twice to have all bases covered. Maybe it’s just unrealistic.
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Did anyone else find it unusual that 3 of the draftees (Reef excluded) mentioned they had only spoken to the club once each?
Is that common or would it have been because of COVID or us not thinking we’d have a play on Macrae, Henry etc? I’m sure they were talking to those around most players and watching them closely but it seems only talking with them once (where you’d get your best vibes) is not really doing your full due diligence. In saying that all the Vic boys seem like they have good heads on their shoulders so hopefully it all pans out well.
Although not knowing how a draft would play out I suppose you’d have to speak to 80 kids twice to have all bases covered. Maybe it’s just unrealistic.
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Yeah, don’t need all of them to become A-graders. Be nice if they did but it’s just unrealistic. If a couple do and a few of the others regular best 22, we’ll have done well from this draft.
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I heard it other Drafts where some Prospects have said they not spoken to the Team often or once.
I say might not be letting on how keen you are for a Prospect
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Not wishful thinking at all timmy I don't think we'll suffer
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If we got 2 A graders and 2 best 22 from this haul we will have smashed it out of the park. Would be a sensational result.
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I think those 2 boys in particular would be pretty safe in the fact they're clearly solid citizens and both have a brother in the system, so they'd have seen first hand what it takes and whether they've got what's required. Sometimes it'd take just one interview to know they're a safe bet.
The minute you interview someone 2, 3 plus times you're either very interested or you're using a kid's life as a puppet to create a smokescreen. Generally I'd suggest multiple interviews makes for strong interest.
Very happy with how last night panned out, and the answer to your question may lay within (sorry, this will end up quite long-winded):
Hawthorn, after taking DGB without issues trade us 41 & 42 for 62, 69 and a future second.
With our first pick in Pick 16, we bid on Jones as the only NGA/FS player remaining from the top 15. No chance of getting him, not a list need whatsoever. Port had positioned themself to match a bid knowing it was coming, so they were always going to. The bid basically costs them 38 & 39.
Immediately our picks from Hawthorn which were originally 41 & 42 both come in two spots each. That's a pick upgrade for free! Genius, and happens solely due to our bid coming when it did.
We take Henry with 17, GWS take Angwin and we take Macrae.
We seemed to know GWS weren't keen on Reef McInnes with their first couple of picks. Now, did we tell them if they didn't bid on Reef with their first few selections, we would then trade them our future first? I bet we did.
And were we ever going to trade out our future first for some decent 2020 picks before a Reef bid? Definitely not.
The speculation on here that we told GWS to bid with their pick before they trade it to us makes perfect sense to me. Post-bid, we trade up and get Pick 24, 30 and a Future Fourth from GWS for our Future First.
Straight away we bid on Coleman, which is win/win because we either get Coleman (unlikely, but would've been awesome) or Brisbane's pick gets swallowed up and our pick 30 moves forward a pick (the Coleman pick cost them 29). Again, free pick upgrade, our doing.
Now it gets a little bit more risky, but the draft has really opened up by this point:
We trade back 25 to 27 and a Future Third from Adelaide. Now, either we psyched Adelaide out and told them we were going to take Cook (he was probably the best SA lad available at the time), or they suspected that St Kilda were going to. Maybe St Kilda had spoke to Cook multiple times? Maybe we had spoken to Cook multiple times and they thought we'd take him? We may have also promised not to take Sam Berry.
At this stage we realise we don't need pick 59 and it has points for Fremantle, and we know they'll take O'Driscoll, so we again trade back a few spots whilst gaining 2021 points. Fremantle jump at the opportunity as it moves them up 3 spots and gets them the points.
The big risk at this point was St Kilda or Hawthorn taking Poulter. Either way, unless we were going to take Matthew Allison (St Kilda's pick at 26) or Seamus Mitchell (Hawthorn's pick at 29), I'd say they were two very calculated switch back which gained us two future selections.
Again, maybe the Saints or Hawks hadn't even spoken to Poulter, or had only spoken to him once and hadn't shown the player anything to suggest they'd take him.
Maybe I'm over-analysing the shit out of this whole thing but gee I'm happy with the way last night played out.
I'd love to know if Henry was our top selection draft-board wise and if so, where did we have him? I meant to put it towards the member forum
recruiter mate liked chugg as a rookie...
but wish Hine would go some speculative talls like Rutugolea here. Always seems like the NQR undersized mid / FP types...
could be 3 / 4 A graders from that crop... all v good picks, just need to buy two gun talls in next off-season!!
obv best mates with De Goey... but despite being a good trainer, looks more a distraction & attention seeker, rather than valuable locker room guy. Club will pass. Too many stupid posts on JDG's insta
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I'm not sure what you were expecting leading into the draft? I feel like our mistakes had already happened. Hine managed to turn a mediocre draft hand into a much improved one with some clever live trading. Given where we started the night I think it was a big win.
It's hard to predict how these draftees will go but my read is we look to have brought in some very good midfielders. With Reef, Macrae, Poulter then Daicos next year I feel confident we get some hits in that group. And size! Key forward, the good ones were already out of the draft but I am glad we brought in a developing key forward in McMahon. Then we have some energy forward of the ball with general/small forwards with Henry who is quality and the pressure that McCreery (highest f50 tackle nos in the SANFL) and Ginnivan bring, appreciating also this position is often found later in the draft.
Then the real question is what do we do with our cap space? We won't see the fruits of that this year but when you talk of replacing A-Grade talent i'm comfortable we have a warchest to do it. I think we will look to get an established mid and key forward with that, and given the money we had walk out the door we are positioned for that.
I do appreciate the frustration, this off season has been nothing short of shite, but I do reckon last night went as good as we could have hoped.
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I don't mind it. Does my head in that talking in an interview is such a huge selection criteria for so many jobs that you aren't paid to talk. Talk to them once to get a vibe, but ultimately draft them based on what you've seen they can do and other sources for information about character. don't know what else you're going to get from a follow up interview, other than a vibe.
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I think they're getting too much credit for the trading. Ultimately we traded a future 1st and a future 2nd for pick 30,31 two future 3rds and a future 4th. It really was the classic bundle up a lot of not much for something good, which we all usually laugh at. We're really rating it highly because Reef slid through so we got two kids with a bit of potential as well as Reef. I think Poulter is going to be a good one too - the other two sound good too, but we might not have needed to trade in order to draft them. We may have essentially traded a future first for Poulter and a future third.
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I really like the sound of the kids we drafted, but I think this board is bi-polar regarding trades. Calamity over a non-calamitous trade period, followed by euphoria over a bunch of pick swaps that weren't very good pick swaps - the first one was bloody ordinary. The one with GWS was ordinary too, but we salvaged a little of what we'd lost by trading down a couple of times and gaining some future points.
agree... think Bianco & Rantall may struggle to get into this team now. Have some v good young mids to compete with
