List Mgmt. 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread

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List Mgmt. - 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread - Part 2

This Part 2 Continued from Part 1: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-list-management-free-agency-trade-thread.1241035/ What type of players does our list need? Pace, Skill, Class and and goal threat. A winger, forward flank and forward pocket are the 3 positions that we need, plus...

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[E Shed]

Yea, my English and grasp of that word isn't the greatest but I felt smart typing it LEL.

My point stands though, that if we took pick 6 to the draft, I don't think we're selecting King and if we do, he's in rehab for four years and doesn't become the player he is becoming now. By pick 6, Ben King was the best KPP available as Max was already taken at 4. Without Hogan, we only have an underwhelming Tabs and Lobb as players who could play KPF and McCarthy as a third tall. We were all screaming out for a KPF at the time and Hogan was best available at the time. Could King develop into a better player than Hogan? Yes. But to that point, given the choice at the time, 99.9% of supporters would've chosen Hogan over King for pick 6. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I agree. So many highly rated big guys don't make the jump from U18 for whatever reason.
Plenty of time for Hogan and he was showing good signs. Could still be a beast.

 

[Pussinbootz]

Just saw this on reddit so thought I’d share it here

 

[E Shed]

Crouch, yuk.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Just saw this on reddit so thought I’d share it here

Matt Crouch is currently worth about 3/5's of **** all as an accumulator who does nothing with it. If we chase Matt Crouch, yet alone use a top 10 pick in any way shape or form, I will kick Bell in the nuts

 

[Joao]

I think we all know how I feel about the Hogan deal by now and that would be by a wide margin a worse deal.

Pick 2 for Matt Crouch? Even in his AA year you wouldn't do it.

 

[Take my logue]

Just saw this on reddit so thought I’d share it here

lol, we draft 3 midfielders in the top 10 in 3 years as well as a half back and a half forward and we go get another one via trade. If we did that our list manager should be shot.

 

[ChimpaWompa]

Just saw this on reddit so thought I’d share it here

thanks I hate it

 

[Van_Dyke]

If we trade pick 2/what our first round pick ends up being (assuming we don’t make a late run to squeeze into the 8), for Matt Crouch I think I’d be physically ill

 

[Nothing]

Matt Crouch is currently worth about 3/5's of fu** all as an accumulator who does nothing with it. If we chase Matt Crouch, yet alone use a top 10 pick in any way shape or form, I will kick Bell in the nuts

We can all have a kick after I castrate him.

 

[Wizard]

I think we all know how I feel about the Hogan deal by now and that would be by a wide margin a worse deal.

Pick 2 for Matt Crouch? Even in his AA year you wouldn't do it.

I would assume we are talking pick 2 in the third round?
Otherwise it’s a hideous thought.

 

[Nickos66]

Just saw this on reddit so thought I’d share it here

Pfft.. I'll bite and say the "guy who told me" has read this thread and taken it all the way to the bank.


There's a better chance of Victoria being deemed COVID free and hosting the 2020 GF.

 

[Pussinbootz]

Just saw this on reddit so thought I’d share it here

Glad you all enjoyed !

 

[blue shark]

Matt Crouch is currently worth about 3/5's of fu** all as an accumulator who does nothing with it. If we chase Matt Crouch, yet alone use a top 10 pick in any way shape or form, I will kick Bell in the nuts

Sounds like a good deal, just like the Croad deal for pick 1. That turned out ok.
Can guarantee that sort of deal will bring laughs for a decade.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Sounds like a good deal, just like the Croad deal for pick 1. That turned out ok.
Can guarantee that sort of deal will bring laughs for a decade.

I legit wouldnt drop down 1 spot in the top 10 to take him, he has negative value to us.

He has 1 position he is semi useful - centre and I'm not playing him in there ahead of Brayshaw, Cerra or Serong since its going to slow their development (the first two are already better than him in there anyway).

Add to that and you'd need to pay him 500k and its even worse

 

[Bicco]

I would really like to see him play at the top level.

Me too. I love a dark horse and what I've seen of him I've liked. If he's physically ready, I'd love to see him get a few games in a row.

 

[Purple Jesus]

Matt Crouch is currently worth about 3/5's of fu** all as an accumulator who does nothing with it. If we chase Matt Crouch, yet alone use a top 10 pick in any way shape or form, I will kick Bell in the nuts

I have his phone number, I'll set up the meet behind the bike sheds and join you in this nut kicking.

 

[Docker82]

I think we’re underrating the Crouch brothers here because of the sh*t the crows as a collective put up most weeks. The starting centre square for the crows in the 2017 Grand Final was Jacobs, Sloane, Crouch and Crouch. There really wasn’t anyone better listed on a HFF/HBF, bench etc. either.

My point is in a functioning side I think they can be handy players, especially if not together.

Having said that I do not see either Crouch as the type of midfielder our club requires to take the next step. We already have plenty of mids with questionable leg speed - we don’t need more.

 

[Wally Walpamur]

I think we’re underrating the Crouch brothers here because of the sh*t the crows as a collective put up most weeks. The starting centre square for the crows in the 2017 Grand Final was Jacobs, Sloane, Crouch and Crouch. There really wasn’t anyone better listed on a HFF/HBF, bench etc. either.

My point is in a functioning side I think they can be handy players, especially if not together.

Having said that I do not see either Crouch as the type of midfielder our club requires to take the next step. We already have plenty of mids with questionable leg speed - we don’t need more.

2013 Grand Final we had Sandi, Fyfe, Crowley and Barlow in the middle and de Boer on a HFF. We’re giving the Crouch brothers their due rating, like Crowley, Barlow and de Boer. They’re ok but you wouldn’t give up a first (heck I wouldn’t even give up a second) round pick for any of them.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think we’re underrating the Crouch brothers here because of the sh*t the crows as a collective put up most weeks. The starting centre square for the crows in the 2017 Grand Final was Jacobs, Sloane, Crouch and Crouch. There really wasn’t anyone better listed on a HFF/HBF, bench etc. either.

My point is in a functioning side I think they can be handy players, especially if not together.

Having said that I do not see either Crouch as the type of midfielder our club requires to take the next step. We already have plenty of mids with questionable leg speed - we don’t need more.

I'm probably being harsh but the dude did get dropped a couple of weeks, from the bottom side, as a 25 yo mid (should be in the prime of his football career).

That is.... not good.

And I agree, he could be handy somewhere but would be the last thing we need, hence why I wouldnt want us giving up something for him.

Can see another club giving a decent 2nd and 500k for him.

 

[Purple Jesus]

I'm probably being harsh but the dude did get dropped a couple of weeks, from the bottom side, as a 25 yo mid (should be in the prime of his football career).

That is.... not good.

And I agree, he could be handy somewhere but would be the last thing we need, hence why I wouldnt want us giving up something for him.

Can see another club giving a decent 2nd and 500k for him.

Could be all in his head based on lack of motivation. That camp destroyed his soul. Maybe that can be turned back around at a new club. Not worth a top 10 pick to find out though haha.

 

[Taylor]

Does our game plan need someone to get 30 touches because his opponent is nowhere near him who then chips the ball sideways to someone else while the opposition set up ahead of the ball?

It might be his role, but I think we could play Banfield in that role.

Maybe I'm not being sucked into the stats enough, I'm pretty sure his opponent is instructed to let him get as much ball as he wants near the boundary and set up offensively so if there is a turnover he is in space and Matt isn't anywhere nearby

 

[Joao]

The biggest issue with the Crouches (especially Matt) is that you can't put him anywhere else. If we signed him we would have both him and Andy that are both only near their best on the ball.

Also I think we don't have enough outside pace to cover another slow inside mid.

 

[Pussinbootz]

Yeah Matt Crouch epitomises empty stats. Can honestly say I’d love to get Brad Crouch though. Think he’s far more damaging. Especially if we have aspirations to play Fyfe forward more.

 

[Joao]

JL already thinks we have lots/too many mids. Can't see him wanting us to stock up on more. I accept that either Crouch is better than most of ours but I feel like we could use the draft/trade currency to target other areas of the field.

 

[Freoforever86]

I might be against the grain here, but I’d be quite ok trading a pick between 5-10 for Matt Crouch. There’s nothing to suggest he won’t return to most damaging with a better environment to what Adelaide has become.

having a mid who will chalk up 25+ every week would be really nice.
lets us keep Walters deep where he’s most dangerous with stints on ball.

if not Matt, grabbing Brad as a FA would be better. Keep our pick then.