List Mgmt. 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread

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This Part 2 Continued from Part 1: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-list-management-free-agency-trade-thread.1241035/ What type of players does our list need? Pace, Skill, Class and and goal threat. A winger, forward flank and forward pocket are the 3 positions that we need, plus...

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[Runner159]

How do you think they project in terms of being ready to play, and forward versus ruck ability? Marking?

One of the traps we end up with a purer ruck prospect like Meek is development ends up happening at wafl level unless injury hits. Could either Neale or Lane develop in a forward role earlier as cover for Lobb either injured or Lobb playing first ruck if Darcy injured?

Kalin Lane already has a mature body and can move around the ground like a midfielder like Brodie Grundy or to a lesser extent Oscar McInerney, he can rest forward but plays more like an extra midfielder. Shannon Neale is the more natural forward when not rucking, but still doesn't hit the scoreboard very often, 5 goals in 9 games this year in the WAFL. Kalin Lane is more ready than Shannon Neale to step into a team if needed, but both would need forward craft to be a focus in their development.

 

[Tundrawolf]

Kalin Lane already has a mature body and can move around the ground like a midfielder like Brodie Grundy or to a lesser extent Oscar McInerney, he can rest forward but plays more like an extra midfielder. Shannon Neale is the more natural forward when not rucking, but still doesn't hit the scoreboard very often, 5 goals in 9 games this year in the WAFL. Kalin Lane is more ready than Shannon Neale to step into a team if needed, but both would need forward craft to be a focus in their development.

Neale does a lot of things really well, he just doesn't always do them for long enough or often enough. He can take really good grabs, has good leading patterns (at times), and is generally a smooth mover. More about potential at this stage.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Enough to sign him for 3 years?

In my opinion yes.

 

[Taylor]

Ruckmen are such a tricky spot. Don't need to be quick to impact a stoppage. Can't be slow to impact forward. Can be a plodder and find space to get involved around the ground in general play.

Contested marking for a tall should be important, but if you can impact the stoppage enough you don't need to.

 

[Runner159]

Neale does a lot of things really well, he just doesn't always do them for long enough or often enough. He can take really good grabs, has good leading patterns (at times), and is generally a smooth mover. More about potential at this stage.

Despite what I said, I think I'd take Shannon Neale over Kalin Lane, too. I should've stated that.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

On Clark, best chance we’d have is if Cameron goes to Geelong. As a performing first round pick he’d be on 400k+ the next two years. If Geelong are squeezing Cameron in on 850k+ you would think someone needs to fall out

 

[bone2468]

On Clark, best chance we’d have is if Cameron goes to Geelong. As a performing first round pick he’d be on 400k+ the next two years. If Geelong are squeezing Cameron in on 850k+ you would think someone needs to fall out

Package Narkle or Constable with Clark and we are talking

 

[Paracleet]

Package Narkle or Constable with Clark and we are talking

Both spuds. Pass.

 

[Puregold]

Want to see more of Neale so my comment is conditional...but I can't see him being AFL ready inside four years

If he hasn't played a game in 4 years this mob would be burning down the club if he wasn't cut. Darcy's played 41 in 4 years, and is pretty dominant for a young ruckman, but still there are calls for him to be traded. All we are looking for is a decent backup ruck/forward

 

[Paracleet]

If he hasn't played a game in 4 years this mob would be burning down the club if he wasn't cut. Darcy's played 41 in 4 years, and is pretty dominant for a young ruckman, but still there are calls for him to be traded. All we are looking for is a decent backup ruck/forward

Meek has 0 in three.

 

[Taylor]

Dixon had his one in three too. Meek is older than Darcy too

 

[Walkingwounded]

If he hasn't played a game in 4 years this mob would be burning down the club if he wasn't cut. Darcy's played 41 in 4 years, and is pretty dominant for a young ruckman, but still there are calls for him to be traded. All we are looking for is a decent backup ruck/forward

Ruckmen and big guys generally take a while to develop. Always exceptions like the King lads.

It may be a 4 year timeframe, BUT with reduced list sizes, are long development time lines a prudent use of valuable list spots.

Or do they wait for development leagues to bring them on a bit and have the risk reduced, but exposure increased for other clubs to step in.

Any decent 20-21YO ruck/forwards kicking around in the Development leagues?

I note Lobb was drafted at 20yo

 

[showemhowtorock]

Phillips would be an upgrade on both Aish and Acres.

No way, the best way to describe him is budget Langdon (same ball use, gets less of it), Phillips lost his wing spot this season to Daicos, wasn't able to maintain the quality of footy he brought in 2018

 

[mike91]

No way, the best way to describe him is budget Langdon (same ball use, gets less of it), Phillips lost his wing spot this season to Daicos, wasn't able to maintain the quality of footy he brought in 2018

Speaking of Daicos, I'm a big fan of him. Extremely unlikely he leaves Collingwood in general, but that's someone I hope JL targets, he fits a need and has plenty of outside skill

 

[Bring back Drum]

Did I hear that Zac Langdon chose the Weagles?

Thank **** for that.

 

[Wizard]

Did I hear that Zac Langdon chose the Weagles?

Thank fu** for that.

Yeah we dont want them good players choosing us.

 

[eastfreo75]

Yeah we dont want them good players choosing us.

Langdon has played 10 games in 2 years.

 

[Wizard]

Langdon has played 10 games in 2 years.

He will slot straight into that WC team and play that Jamie Cripps style role perfectly for the next 10 years, we'll regret missing him without doubt.

 

[wayToGo_]

He will slot straight into that WC team and play that Jamie Cripps style role perfectly for the next 10 years, we'll regret missing him without doubt.

He had a kicking efficiency of 33% this year (~1 effective kick per game) and kicked 2 goals over 7 games with an accuracy of 22%.

If we were trading in a 24yo small forward with those numbers I'd be wondering if our recruitment team had a serious drug problem. The last thing we need is another pressure forward on our list who struggles to hit the scoreboard nor create scoring opportunities for others. If he is their new Cripps then WC are heading toward a deeper hole than I thought they were.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

Yeah Zac two dads genuine rubbish.

Wouldn't get a game over Schultz and I am a noted Schultz skeptic.

While we're at it can we consign Constable talk to the same scrapheap. He's the Geelong Blakely, already got one of those not getting a game.

 

[go_the_dockers]

On Clark, best chance we’d have is if Cameron goes to Geelong. As a performing first round pick he’d be on 400k+ the next two years. If Geelong are squeezing Cameron in on 850k+ you would think someone needs to fall out

Either that or Higgins plus one more b grader cause the squeeze.

 

[Tbonefreo]

Id be into Bailey Dale's ear from the Bulldogs to occupy a wing position. Natural footballer with decent pace and kicks goals. Out of favour at the dawgs

 

[Scham]

Langdon has played 10 games in 2 years.

I’m really surprised he got 8 of those 10. It’s only that their coach has no idea that he got those I suspect. He’s been dreadful.

 

[Bring back Drum]

Yeah we dont want them good players choosing us.

Yeah add him to Schultz, Crowden, Henry, Switta, Freddy, Colyer, Banfield & even Walters & Sturt.
I think we’ve got enough small forward options on the list.

 

[Tbonefreo]

I get langdon and Taylor mixed up from gws