List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Thread - Part III

[Tommy Wigs]

But Hurley is on about double Websters wage. We are losing Jake because we don't want to pay him so much. Makes no sense.

Mental if true

 

[Patty_vanda]

sorry to intrude but all st kilda supporters should listen to this podcast last Friday at 0543 pm Melbourne time with Tom morris

xavia Ellis ‘ it’s time for a beer l start at 12 10 minute

now add Tom Morris to rendell,Edmund, sos, even Damian barret. All indicate the same


it’s happening the negotiations for lodging Monday
by days end

brad crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

will be a saint on 4 year deal with trigger for fifth 3.5 to 4 mill
saints will still have pick 15 to play with
adelaide will have pick 2 in the national draft

and no salary dumping of players , no draft tampering

happy days for St kilda Adelaide and brad crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

your figures are wrong dude

 

[Joffaboy]

But Hurley is on about double Websters wage. We are losing Jake because we don't want to pay him so much. Makes no sense.

Yeah, I have NFI what is going on re Carlisle?
Really perplexing

 

[Mowman]

sorry to intrude but all st kilda supporters should listen to this podcast last Friday at 0543 pm Melbourne time with Tom morris

xavia Ellis ‘ it’s time for a beer l start at 12 10 minute

now add Tom Morris to rendell,Edmund, sos, even Damian barret. All indicate the same


it’s happening the negotiations for lodging Monday
by days end

brad crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

will be a saint on 4 year deal with trigger for fifth 3.5 to 4 mill
saints will still have pick 15 to play with
adelaide will have pick 2 in the national draft

and no salary dumping of players , no draft tampering

happy days for St kilda Adelaide and brad crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

I think you're on to something here
I mean Morris, Edmund, Rendell & Barrett my god some heavy weights there it must be right

 

[Joffaboy]

Can go any Couch

It is code for saying Crouch is a spud

 

[pebblesofsand]

Hurley would be a Salary dump, just like Webster.
Actually might just be a player swap.

Well someone would need to be paying for Hurley for the next two and it wouldn't be Essendon.

All this talk is actually about keeping Jake but on a two year contract with triggers for an additional year.

 

[FQFjt]

Can’t help but think of Jack Steven

9

Jack Steven

Age

34

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

4star

CL

2.5

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

’s prospects of cracking back into that Geelong team with Smith and Higgins being added.

I get romantic thinking about a homecoming. Get fit, play forward/mid, all is forgiven, win a flag.

Stupid, I know.


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[Greg1853]

Yeah, I have NFI what is going on re Carlisle?
Really perplexing

Between carlisle's back and hip, I think he has 20-30 AFL games left in him. Just my hunch, but I know the hip injury of 3-4 years ago was a real battle for him, and the amount of work he needed every week to get through training and playing is likely to wear him down at some point.

I don't think he is underrated by the powers to be, but I think they are just being practical. He really is a good reader of the play. If his body slows him down any more, I think he will be done sooner than later.

The above is just my take on things. I really like the guy, rate him as a player, but if we trade him, I will understand that the club will have their reasons.

 

[Mowman]

But Hurley is on about double Websters wage. We are losing Jake because we don't want to pay him so much. Makes no sense.

I could understand going after Talia to replace Jake
But i would take Jake over Hurley everyday of the week

 

[Dr Spaceman]

But Hurley is on about double Websters wage. We are losing Jake because we don't want to pay him so much. Makes no sense.

Allow Satan to explain it gringo2011

 

[Mowman]

Can’t help but think of Jack Steven

9

Jack Steven

Age

34

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

4star

CL

2.5

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

’s prospects of cracking back into that Geelong team with Smith and Higgins being added.

I get romantic thinking about a homecoming. Get fit, play forward/mid, all is forgiven, win a flag.

Stupid, I know.


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Jack has been left in the oven longer than Hurley has
He is done

 

[triggering bro]

Jack has been left in the oven longer than Hurley has
He is done

Great trade in the end to get him off our books & away from our club.

 

[LiterallyNobody]

Jack has been left in the oven longer than Hurley has
He is done

Agreed. I love jack but honestly I Wouldn’t want him back Even if he was available. Unless we win the flag in 2021-22 and he comes back as a 34 year old for one last premiership. Then I’m happy.

 

[LiterallyNobody]

i don’t know what worries me more. Carlisle going or Hurley coming.

hope both are wrong but god if Hurley is coming I don’t think I can see that as a positive at all.
Hope ol mate deewhy is wrong about our interest in him.

 

[Veer Right]

Between carlisle's back and hip, I think he has 20-30 AFL games left in him. Just my hunch, but I know the hip injury of 3-4 years ago was a real battle for him, and the amount of work he needed every week to get through training and playing is likely to wear him down at some point.

I don't think he is underrated by the powers to be, but I think they are just being practical. He really is a good reader of the play. If his body slows him down any more, I think he will be done sooner than later.

The above is just my take on things. I really like the guy, rate him as a player, but if we trade him, I will understand that the club will have their reasons.

It's not his back and hip, they dropped him while in form THIS year. It's clear as day the coaching crew don't see him part of the future and as i have said before it's his attitude. I used to love Carlisle but have dropped away in the last 18 months or so because i am over his body language.

Wouldn't surprise me either if his negative body language translates to cancerous behaviour behind the scenes although i am stabbing in the dark with this.

Does he make us a better team when he's firing? Yep
Is he a good fit for the club moving forward? No.

We are in need of a KPD and maybe the story of this years trade period is yet to unfold. Someone mentioned Freo has surplus stocks so maybe we can start fishing in that pond.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

A good friends best mate is very high up at the Tigers. Thought I'd try to get a little inside info on Jack Higgins...

He said he won't even go there with his mate, he gives nothing away, he's a pro.

Got me thinking, who predicted the Crouch nomination? Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

41

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

seemed to get onto it the morning before the nomination was made, probably once it was given the all clear to be public info. Before that, crickets.

This whole ITK thing is kind of funny but if we have anyone at the club feeding every bit of info out there I'd be worried. The Crouch situation suggests we don't.

Can confirm as true.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Hurley is a poor one on one defender. It's been a weakness of his for many years. He was a good interceptor and rebounder which kept him at a pretty good level and papered over his weaknesses, but even that has dropped away now. He's over 30, not a good lockdown key defender, is not far off cooked and has a large contract that we'd have to absorb. I highly doubt we are interested.

 

[saints man]

When the back line is spoken about by Ratts or others, Jake is not mentioned or mentioned last

 

[St Neil]

your figures are wrong dude

He’s also trolling the main board saying similar things. Don’t engage, it will lower your IQ.

 

[Barrels]

Would rather play Joyce over Hurley... going to be super hard to move off the ball.



Might be easy to run off of though...

 

[stfan]

B Couch done deal.

You been shopping for a couch? I guess retail is open. Have you got you A and C couches or did you go with chairs to match?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

But Hurley is on about double Websters wage. We are losing Jake because we don't want to pay him so much. Makes no sense.

Even if he was a salary dump, Dodo would value him at 2 first rounders.

 

[Captain Paddy]

Always shocked by the Carlisle love on here.

Turning circle of the queen mary, terrible against the big forwards, should be a leader but has TERRIBLE body language when things aren't going well (See Geelong game where he'd get beat one on one against Hawkins and turn around and flame one of the young guys) and has terrible disposal coming out of the backline, just goes for little dinky kicks, has absolutely no power in his legs anymore.

His only decent attribute is his intercepting which all of our backs do well now. We're going to get a rock solid, no frills full back who jut gets the job done, Doug will go out more towards CHB where he can be more attacking/play loose and help out the FB and Wilkie, Long, Coff etc will cut off the rest.

Carlisle is grossly overrated on here. He WAS good when we got him, but 4-5 years down the track he's slower than anything.

I reckon if Nath Brown stayed in the hub we would've been playing him over Carlisle tbh.

 

[luca77]

Always shocked by the Carlisle love on here.

Turning circle of the queen mary, terrible against the big forwards, should be a leader but has TERRIBLE body language when things aren't going well (See Geelong game where he'd get beat one on one against Hawkins and turn around and flame one of the young guys) and has terrible disposal coming out of the backline, just goes for little dinky kicks, has absolutely no power in his legs anymore.

His only decent attribute is his intercepting which all of our backs do well now. We're going to get a rock solid, no frills full back who jut gets the job done, Doug will go out more towards CHB where he can be more attacking/play loose and help out the FB and Wilkie, Long, Coff etc will cut off the rest.

Carlisle is grossly overrated on here. He WAS good when we got him, but 4-5 years down the track he's slower than anything.

I reckon if Nath Brown stayed in the hub we would've been playing him over Carlisle tbh.

'grossly' , huh? Nice balanced viewpoint, likely to convince a total of nobody at all.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Yeah Carlisle's cooked - that's why we've offered him a new contract. The issue is purely and simply the length of contract we've offered.

He wants longer than we are prepared to offer ATM - that doesn't mean he isn't wanted.

But given he's looking around (with our blessing) his manager would have been clearly told - we want him but under these terms but don't get offended if you hear about us looking at alternatives just in case Jake does get an offer we can't match.