List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.
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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino
Sam Alabakis

Traded;
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Retired;
Jake Carlisle
Dylan Roberton
Shaun McKernan
James Frawley


Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan (RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie - Link
25. Dean Kent - Link
39. Darragh Joyce - Link
41. Paul Hunter - Link


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List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...
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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)
 
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Premium said:
Play Coffield in a different role , he wasn't drafted to just be a halfback flanker - has the skill and ability to play just about anywhere like a Goddard.

We now have many options , a good headache to have.
Our problem though is if Howard goes down then it's a migraine.
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Maybe Coffield could become that tall wing Ratts craves.
Dropping back as 7th def to intercept when needed
 
SaintsSeptember said:
A HBF was exactly what Coffieild was drafted as, with speculation that he could grow into other roles.
He may have played a couple of midfield games as a junior.
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SUMMARY

The Northern Knights skipper has come on leaps and bounds this year in both the TAC Cup and National Under 18 Championships. He made good on his pre-season promise to “make the Knights great again”, leading them to a finals appearance while also playing a key role in Vic Metro’s success. His mix of athleticism and footy smarts saw him catch the eye of many a recruiter, and sent him storming up the draft order. With an abundance of strings to his bow, Coffield has showed he can offer almost everything an AFL coach could ask for both on and off the field.

STRENGTHS

Athleticism
Work in tight spaces/evasiveness
Efficiency
Versatility
Leadership

Coffield tested as one of the fastest players in the draft pool with a sub-three second 20m sprint time. Add to that his sizable vertical leap, 190cm frame and strong hands, and you have a ready-made AFL athlete. The most promising thing about Coffield is that he combines his athletic traits with a high-level football IQ, which has inevitably seen him draw comparisons to Scott Pendlebury.

Like the Collingwood skipper, Coffield provides a cool head amidst the mayhem of stoppages, weaving his way through traffic and turning on dimes. His clearance work has improved out of sight this year and more midfield time has really aided that side of his game. And with one of the most accurate kicks in the TAC Cup this season, Coffield’s efficiency has seen him stand out even more as clubs at the top level try to claim the best ball users.

Despite his midfield prowess he looks most comfortable across half back, where he can use his solid overhead marking to intercept and then use his pace to rebound. His ability to launch and take marks overhead also proved useful up forward this year, as he snared a bag of four and a game-winning goal to prove his versatility. The last piece of the puzzle for Coffield is his undoubtable leadership – as skipper of the Knights and second-in-charge for Vic Metro, ‘Coff’ constantly stood up when it mattered and lead by example with a cool head and unreal class.

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If they draw comparisons to Scott Pendlebury I fully expect he can be more than a flanker.
 
SaintsSeptember said:
Read between the lines.
Lachie has stated that his wife and he want to raise their child in W.A.

That means his wife has decided she wants to go back. Her mum is there ( guessing ), and her other relatives and old friends.

Nothing Brisbane can do about this sort of elemental force.
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Yes that’s pretty obvious but that’s just in the things happen make the best of a bad situation for Brisbane. If I’m Fremantle I’m looking at it as an unsolicited windfall and I’m definitely not getting into some mongoose v cobra situation, offer what you’re prepared to pay and leave it at that.
 

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SaintsSeptember said:
Read between the lines.
Lachie has stated that his wife and he want to raise their child in W.A.

That means his wife has decided she wants to go back. Her mum is there ( guessing ), and her other relatives and old friends.

Nothing Brisbane can do about this sort of elemental force.
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Basically covid has ****ed them. She probably hasn't seen her family for 18 months and now she's facing having a baby in a city where she doesn't really have any support. If it wasn't covid times then she could have her mum come over for frequent visits, but that's impossible at the moment.
 
Premium said:
SUMMARY

The Northern Knights skipper has come on leaps and bounds this year in both the TAC Cup and National Under 18 Championships. He made good on his pre-season promise to “make the Knights great again”, leading them to a finals appearance while also playing a key role in Vic Metro’s success. His mix of athleticism and footy smarts saw him catch the eye of many a recruiter, and sent him storming up the draft order. With an abundance of strings to his bow, Coffield has showed he can offer almost everything an AFL coach could ask for both on and off the field.

STRENGTHS

Athleticism
Work in tight spaces/evasiveness
Efficiency
Versatility
Leadership

Coffield tested as one of the fastest players in the draft pool with a sub-three second 20m sprint time. Add to that his sizable vertical leap, 190cm frame and strong hands, and you have a ready-made AFL athlete. The most promising thing about Coffield is that he combines his athletic traits with a high-level football IQ, which has inevitably seen him draw comparisons to Scott Pendlebury.

Like the Collingwood skipper, Coffield provides a cool head amidst the mayhem of stoppages, weaving his way through traffic and turning on dimes. His clearance work has improved out of sight this year and more midfield time has really aided that side of his game. And with one of the most accurate kicks in the TAC Cup this season, Coffield’s efficiency has seen him stand out even more as clubs at the top level try to claim the best ball users.

Despite his midfield prowess he looks most comfortable across half back, where he can use his solid overhead marking to intercept and then use his pace to rebound. His ability to launch and take marks overhead also proved useful up forward this year, as he snared a bag of four and a game-winning goal to prove his versatility. The last piece of the puzzle for Coffield is his undoubtable leadership – as skipper of the Knights and second-in-charge for Vic Metro, ‘Coff’ constantly stood up when it mattered and lead by example with a cool head and unreal class.

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If they draw comparisons to Scott Pendlebury I fully expect he can be more than a flanker.
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This one does too.

www.espn.com.au

AFL draft wrap: The next 'Pendles'?

ESPN's AFL draft expert Christopher Doerre - aka Knightmare - casts his eye over the players who impressed in the junior competitions. Who boosted their draft stocks?
www.espn.com.au www.espn.com.au

But....
Coffield spent the majority of the match playing off a half-back flank with some minutes in the front half late when the game was there to be won. Watching the mix of attributes Coffield demonstrated, if he can improve the contested side to his game, he has the scope to become a very damaging midfielder in the Scott Pendlebury mould.

What we actually see is someone playing a similar role to Jimmy Webster, winning less clearances, similar contested numbers, and less disposals in general.
Wilkie generally needs to play more one on one than Coffield, yet finds more of the ball.
Clark playing in the backline in previous seasons found a lot more of the ball than Coffield.
 
stavro#4 said:
Coffield Wilkie and Highmore are 3 very different types of intercept defenders to just label them as Intercept players.

Coffield is more of a lane interceptor. Good positioning, great at cutting off the drilled kick. Not amazing at the high ball.

Highmore is more your high ball interceptor. Hasn’t shown a whole heap as a lockdown just yet. But very very good under a high ball - which is probably the most damaging type of interceptor.

Wilkie is the best one on one defender and is the best of the 3 as an interceptor in one on one contests.

if you want to play all 3 + Howard and another Key back. It leaves only 1 spot left for Webster/Paton/Sinclair.

ideally…. We go back to a back 7. Highmore as the loose man. Wilkie as the third tall. Coffield playing on the resting mid/second small. Paton/Webster on the best smalls. Sinclair as the attacking flanker

Howard + CHB take the key talls.

becoming an elite intercept team will have us in contention, regardless of a midfield that isn’t elite.
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I’m happy with what we have and potentially Allison and battle if he stays.

Height is too simplistic Imo some guys play tall some have long arms or a great leap etc. Anyway if forced to choose between a mobile 195 defender and a 200 pure stopper im taking mobile every time. If you come up against a monster having a day out plan to have your ruckman get back and help out whenever possible.

Anyway a guy like may can play fullback on anyone and yet could rebound of a flank, that’s the versatility I want. We did well on Hawkins and Cameron and the backline looked good. Imo our first has to be earmarked for a young mid, hopefully with pace and high end skills.
 
SaintsSeptember said:
Time for the Eagles to make an effort to grab him.
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Absolutely, but they won’t want to overpay either. I can understand both WA clubs not offering too much if they think that Brisbane are pinned down.

But it’s been reported that Neale has two years left on his contract and not one. Brisbane are entitled to drive a hard bargain here and are within their rights to be strong. There is nothing wrong with that.

Both parties agreed to the contract when it was signed.
 
bergholt said:
Whispers are that a three way trade is in the works:

Freo get Neale
Saints get Cerra
Lions get Lonie

Thoughts?
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Isn't Cerra more of an inside mid? Haven't we got enough of them? Thought we needed more speed into the midfield. I might be wrong as I haven't watched a whole lot of freo in the past couple years.

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Premium said:
SUMMARY

The Northern Knights skipper has come on leaps and bounds this year in both the TAC Cup and National Under 18 Championships. He made good on his pre-season promise to “make the Knights great again”, leading them to a finals appearance while also playing a key role in Vic Metro’s success. His mix of athleticism and footy smarts saw him catch the eye of many a recruiter, and sent him storming up the draft order. With an abundance of strings to his bow, Coffield has showed he can offer almost everything an AFL coach could ask for both on and off the field.

STRENGTHS

Athleticism
Work in tight spaces/evasiveness
Efficiency
Versatility
Leadership

Coffield tested as one of the fastest players in the draft pool with a sub-three second 20m sprint time. Add to that his sizable vertical leap, 190cm frame and strong hands, and you have a ready-made AFL athlete. The most promising thing about Coffield is that he combines his athletic traits with a high-level football IQ, which has inevitably seen him draw comparisons to Scott Pendlebury.

Like the Collingwood skipper, Coffield provides a cool head amidst the mayhem of stoppages, weaving his way through traffic and turning on dimes. His clearance work has improved out of sight this year and more midfield time has really aided that side of his game. And with one of the most accurate kicks in the TAC Cup this season, Coffield’s efficiency has seen him stand out even more as clubs at the top level try to claim the best ball users.

Despite his midfield prowess he looks most comfortable across half back, where he can use his solid overhead marking to intercept and then use his pace to rebound. His ability to launch and take marks overhead also proved useful up forward this year, as he snared a bag of four and a game-winning goal to prove his versatility. The last piece of the puzzle for Coffield is his undoubtable leadership – as skipper of the Knights and second-in-charge for Vic Metro, ‘Coff’ constantly stood up when it mattered and lead by example with a cool head and unreal class.

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If they draw comparisons to Scott Pendlebury I fully expect he can be more than a flanker.
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See that's the thing with athletic testing, some guys are great on paper but they don't use it on the field. I've never thought that Coff looked quick. Guys like Snags were tested as slow but he hits pace fast off one step and often uses his evasiveness to make himself look quite frenetic around the ball.

I think Coff is probably a winds up to top speed type because he rarely burns off players if ever. He plays very flat footed generally in my mental image of his game. He can look a bit mentally pressured when he's got players coming at him as well. Pendles since he was drafted always had that Dal type of never looking stressed or rushed game. I think the wing is probably Coffs ideal position but more of that hybrid HBF/wingman they all seem to love these days.
 
SaintsSeptember said:
This one does too.

www.espn.com.au

AFL draft wrap: The next 'Pendles'?

ESPN's AFL draft expert Christopher Doerre - aka Knightmare - casts his eye over the players who impressed in the junior competitions. Who boosted their draft stocks?
www.espn.com.au www.espn.com.au

But....
Coffield spent the majority of the match playing off a half-back flank with some minutes in the front half late when the game was there to be won. Watching the mix of attributes Coffield demonstrated, if he can improve the contested side to his game, he has the scope to become a very damaging midfielder in the Scott Pendlebury mould.

What we actually see is someone playing a similar role to Jimmy Webster, winning less clearances, similar contested numbers, and less disposals in general.
Wilkie generally needs to play more one on one than Coffield, yet finds more of the ball.
Clark playing in the backline in previous seasons found a lot more of the ball than Coffield.
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Last year he was right up the top of total marks, intercept marks and intercepts in the AFL. He probably has to use his marking but then he's not really a KP and then he's not quite damaging enough as an architect to plonk in as a spare.
 
crasha301 said:
Obviously would have triggered bonuses if he did, gc just looking after their salary cap

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Don’t think Ben would be too impressed, and I don’t blame him. They finished 16th (3rd last), were bog average, and he almost kicked 50 goals for the year.

Maybe they don’t rate him that highly.
 
St Neil said:
Absolutely, but they won’t want to overpay either. I can understand both WA clubs not offering too much if they think that Brisbane are pinned down.

But it’s been reported that Neale has two years left on his contract and not one. Brisbane are entitled to drive a hard bargain here and are within their rights to be strong. There is nothing wrong with that.

Both parties agreed to the contract when it was signed.
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That’s all true but how has it worked out when players wanted out and were held, pretty much a mixed bag I think so there’s risk involved.
 
St Neil said:
Don’t think Ben would be too impressed, and I don’t blame him. They finished 16th (3rd last), were bog average, and he almost kicked 50 goals for the year.

Maybe they don’t rate him that highly.
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I’d definitely be in his ear, why not have a crack this year if the kids willing.

I can see this becoming an absolute circus next year because lukosious will want out as well perhaps leading to the AFL getting involved again.
 
St Neil said:
Don’t think Ben would be too impressed, and I don’t blame him. They finished 16th (3rd last), were bog average, and he almost kicked 50 goals for the year.

Maybe they don’t rate him that highly.
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To be fair, a lot of his times where he kicked goals were very low possession games.

He had single figure possession counts in 16 of 22 games.

Still surprised he didn't crack the top 10 but that might help explain it a little.
 
Lachie might need to take a big haircut to go home.
He wants to move back to a two team town with teams that either can’t afford him or don’t want to sell the house for him. Brisbane should be in no way disadvantaged over this.
Maybe he should go to the Crows so he’s closer to home.
 
Yawkey way said:
That’s all true but how has it worked out when players wanted out and were held, pretty much a mixed bag I think so there’s risk involved.
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But remember when Brisbane were losing players all the time when those players didn’t want to stay. They have been a club with a history of showing compassion to players with personal difficulties.

Neale is an elite footballer on big money. He willingly signed a long term contract and has multiple years left on the deal. He is one of their stars and has won a Brownlow.

I’m very sympathetic to the losing club in these circumstances. They deserve to be fairly compensated and if they’re not then they are entitled to hold the player to his contract.
 
Premium said:
Pick him back up in the rookie draft if they feel he is worth it.
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hs that ever happened before pick the guy as a rookie, let him go, and pick him up again?
 
bird_man said:
To be fair, a lot of his times where he kicked goals were very low possession games.

He had single figure possession counts in 16 of 22 games.

Still surprised he didn't crack the top 10 but that might help explain it a little.
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Also the way the Suns do their best and fairest - "awarding each player a maximum of 10 votes after each match, for a maximum of 40 votes for any match." - doesn't lend itself to someone like Bing who was solid in a lot of games but didn't have many stand out performances.
 
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