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I’ve been lucky enough to see a few of the boys we might grab a few times watching my nephew play colts and PSA etc the last couple of years. I’ve seen each of the guys below at least 4 times live, some more.

I say this because I’ve formed a view on the floor/ceiling comparisons that me and my brother have come up with.

With that, here’s my worthless opinion (floor/ceiling);
Erasmus - Blakely/Petracca
Amiss - Tony Notte/J Reiwoldt
Johnson - Dal Santo/Mundy
JVR - M.McGovern/Pavlich
Williams - Bandy/Lobb+
Hough - McManus/McLuggage
Dittmar - Tom Swift/Brock McLean
Motlop - Dahlhaus/Papley
Benning - Strnadica/Marshall
My nephew - Fyfe/Leigh Matthews 😁

I’ve only listed those of likely interest to Freo at our picks and who I’ve seen a min 3 times.

If it were me I’d go Johnson, JVR with 6 & 8 and see what happens with 19 at the end of night 1.

I’d do this knowing that Erasmus will likely be very, very bloody good and hoping like hell he’s already gone by our pick or goes before the clowns up the road get their pick.
 
I’ve been lucky enough to see a few of the boys we might grab a few times watching my nephew play colts and PSA etc the last couple of years. I’ve seen each of the guys below at least 4 times live, some more.

I say this because I’ve formed a view on the floor/ceiling comparisons that me and my brother have come up with.

With that, here’s my worthless opinion (floor/ceiling);
Erasmus - Blakely/Petracca
Amiss - Tony Notte/J Reiwoldt
Johnson - Dal Santo/Mundy
JVR - M.McGovern/Pavlich
Williams - Bandy/Lobb+
Hough - McManus/McLuggage
Dittmar - Tom Swift/Brock McLean
Motlop - Dahlhaus/Papley
Benning - Strnadica/Marshall
My nephew - Fyfe/Leigh Matthews 😁

I’ve only listed those of likely interest to Freo at our picks and who I’ve seen a min 3 times.

If it were me I’d go Johnson, JVR with 6 & 8 and see what happens with 19 at the end of night 1.

I’d do this knowing that Erasmus will likely be very, very bloody good and hoping like hell he’s already gone by our pick or goes before the clowns up the road get their pick.
Pretty accurate and interesting comparisons. Erasmus is going to be hard to match as a forward, and in time play midfield minutes.
Only one missing is Bazzo, thoughts?
 
what has poor dittmar done to deserve this comparison

😀
I actually started with Swift as his ceiling but my brother wouldn’t cop that!

It’s my own bias towards players who can use the ball. He’s a great kid and great at getting the ball. I just think he’s very blinkered rather than thoughtful and wasteful when he should be precise but I don’t think he has the skills to be precise.
 
Pretty accurate and interesting comparisons. Erasmus is going to be hard to match as a forward, and in time play midfield minutes.
Only one missing is Bazzo, thoughts?

I’ve only seen the Bazzo lad twice so won’t offer any thoughts other than to say he makes a very good first impression as a player.
 
Except that JVR might not be there at 13? Or Erasmus, Johnson and Amiss.
It’s a gamble, GWS taken McCarthy before our pick and the we take Apeness.
A few clubs want Talls, Dees made sure Jackson and Pickett were off the table.
They didn’t just go best available or they would of taken Young.

gee that would be something...four west Aussies under pick 13. Unlikely though even two given the overall talent available.
 
what has poor dittmar done to deserve this comparison
On flip side Johnson - Del Santo/Mundy

Johnson should be going at pick 2.

Interesting analysis Wobbly. I say we select your nephew at pick 19 - it around the pick Fyfe was selected.

I saw Erasmus play for Hale and it is etched in my brain and hence I want him wearing purple.
 
I’ve only seen the Bazzo lad twice so won’t offer any thoughts other than to say he makes a very good first impression as a player.
I saw Bazzo quite a few times at PSA level for Guildford and if you were using your range of players they remind you of / could develop it would be somewhere between .....Polak / Rance ?
 

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30 percent is the baseline premium for trading up. And they have to price the risk of missing out on Andrew if that is the player they want.
If someone can point to an example of a win win trade even on points for a trade up into the top 5 when it's just picks I'd be very surprised.

I think a win win even points trade is possible, but it could only be in very specific circumstances where each side is effectively guaranteed results. E.g if we had picks 4 and 5 and they 2 and 10 we'd do it straight away because then they can get exactly who they want and do so we. With them trading for 6 and 8 they could end up in a situation where the top rated players left after the first 5 open picks are all inside mids, then what would have been the point?
It’s not something that comes about from our instigation. Only from GWS’s, and that presumably because they somehow conclude they can benefit by getting a better 2nd pick while still claiming their preferred first. If it was our idea there’s zero chance.
 
It’s not something that comes about from our instigation. Only from GWS’s, and that presumably because they somehow conclude they can benefit by getting a better 2nd pick while still claiming their preferred first. If it was our idea there’s zero chance.

Yes and it only works if the clubs know who the other clubs are taking. Which apparently they do for the first 10 or so at least


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It’s not something that comes about from our instigation. Only from GWS’s, and that presumably because they somehow conclude they can benefit by getting a better 2nd pick while still claiming their preferred first. If it was our idea there’s zero chance.
I really think it will come down to Gold Coast and whether GWS are willing let Callaghan go to Gold Coast and whether GWS are comfortable picking up Gibcus /Andrew and being rewarded with a F2 and change in the process. I really doubt Adelaide have the draft capital to make it happen and even then there is no guarantee they get their preferred man because Gold Coast are dire need of key position backs and ruck/forward.

We are very low chance and it would only be because GWS think there is great value in having pick 10 instead of 15. We have nothing else to offer other than wait till the bid matching at 2 and 3 and see pick 61 move up to around 55.
 
I don’t get the lack of love for Bazzo.

Swans win the flag with Bazzo was the best player on the team all year.

In SA game, he destroyed the SA tall forwards.

We have enough key backs and shouldn’t draft him but another club should look at him in the late first round.
He will be picked by WC to replace McNugget
 
I don’t get the lack of love for Bazzo.

Swans win the flag with Bazzo was the best player on the team all year.

In SA game, he destroyed the SA tall forwards.

We have enough key backs and shouldn’t draft him but another club should look at him in the late first round.
Basso would be great to get, but we don’t have enough spare list spaces.

Bailey Banfield should not have been resigned (if at all) until after the trade period.

Now we will have to let a number of possible guns go elsewhere.
 
Got a bit of Stephen Hill about him...

 
Basso would be great to get, but we don’t have enough spare list spaces.

Bailey Banfield should not have been resigned (if at all) until after the trade period.

Now we will have to let a number of possible guns go elsewhere.
Sorry I don’t get how Bailey Banfield on the rookie list in any way impacts our ability to select Bazzo.

We are a very good chance to select Bazzo or Williams if we downgrade our pick 21. A club like Richmond who have 26,27,28 would be one option who may jump at a slider and offer one of their two F2nds along with say 27 or 28 and then Bazzo or Williams will come into play. He has played some good games forward with Guildford, but his best across all formats has been at CHB.

Baily Banfield is taking up a rookie list spot. Bazzo will be long gone before the rookie list. We currently have 5 list spots available (not incl. Cat-b). We will likely go 4+1 but we will have the option of passing or trading our last pick which is currently pick 69. Bailey Banfield aside if Sumich comes out and says Bazzo is a big sook and no one should touch him and he is still available at 69 (which would have likely pushed up into the 50’s) then we can still add him as fifth selection in the ND and go without a live selection in the Rookie Draft. Again I have zero idea how Bailey Banfield prevents us selecting Bazzo with either of our third fourth or even fifth ND selections.

In saying all this I’m not a massive advocate for Bailey Banfield just wondering how you came to that conclusion.
 

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