Preview 2022 draft prospects

[Lings of Geelong]

What is your thoughts on who you think the Bombers will trade out said pick with and what they will expect to get regards to pick swaps?
If they do trade out 25 the result will be better than them using 25 and a bid coming a pick or 2 later efectively giving them 2 picks prior to our 2nd rounders.
For the record Dodoro did state last night they expected to use the pick

Hine and Twomey both said last night that clubs will be looking to trade their F2 for a pick in the 20's. So Bombers will just take the best F2 on offer in exchange for pick 25, leaving them with just enough points to match a West Coast Davey bid.

Obviously they'd prefer to pick at 25 before matching, and they've only got to have GWS, WCE and WBD pass on Davey to achieve that. But even in worst case, they'd be pretty happy to get out of this draft with Tsatas, Davey x 2 and potentially Munkara, plus a F2.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Why are you worried about his knees specifically? Most players recover well from ACL’s eg Petracca.

I’m not well-read enough on George’s history specifically, but I understand he has had two separate knee injuries, and the second one happened in his first game back after recovering from the first?

 

[Couch Coach]

I was just told that one player we might be interested in later is a guy by the name of Tom Mccallum, To be honest I'm not sure if we are interested in taking him but I know we have interviewed him

Good underated Tasmanian defender 192cm. A bit like Weedle with worse kicking.

 

[loki04]

I think W. Coast might bid on Davey as they will benefit having pick 26 plus Jones is now gone.

Probably Swans again.

 

[Couch Coach]

I’m not well-read enough on George’s history specifically, but I understand he has had two separate knee injuries, and the second one happened in his first game back after recovering from the first?

I believe he had a meniscus injury to his ??? knee and in his second game back he did the ACL in his left knee in a marking contest.

5 games, 2 weeks concussion, 8 weeks meniscus, 1 game, ACL season over

 

[KJpie]

Probably Swans again.

The swans don't have a pick prior to Essonon to make a bid unless I'm missing something, a trade swap for e.g. with the 3 clubs prior to the Don's next pick at 25

 

[KJpie]

Well done manicpie you first brought Allan to my attention almost 2 months ago

 

[Lings of Geelong]

If a bid comes for Davey by GWS at 22 and Munkara @ 41ish (1005 points), they won't have enough points remaining to match a bid with only 54, 61, 66 (435 points) to bid with after trading out 25 for a future second as you suggest. In this scenario there would be a 570 point deficit.

If the Bombers trade out pick 25 for a future 2nd as suggested, then they go further into deficit to the tune of 1415 points.
If anything they will need to give up a future pick, not take one from another club

If GWS bid at 22, that'll cost 676 points (80% of 845). If Bombers have traded out 25, they'll use 49, 54 and 59 (665 points) to match. 11 point deficit - bugger all.

If they are able to match a Munkara bid ( after pick 40), they will just need to use their next available selection (which will be in the 60's or 70's after dropping to the back after the bid match)

 

[RobJD]

Confused how they have the points to match a bid on Munkara at 41ish with a pick in the 60's or 70' as suggested

Essendon's problem will be a bid on Munkara (or Davey) before 40 - they'll have to pay for that.

 

[Harry O]

Can't believe how excited I was to see us select Allen - I've been on him since 7/11 - potential for a great 1:2 combination over the next 10 years with Naics. Wanted Jones with our 2nd - would be happy with any of the remaining Poster's Choice players that were nominated for our first (Hayes, Hustwait, Keeler, George, Hotton, Barnett) - get the feeling that the Swans might take Barnett at 27 - would be great to get Hayes at our 28 and Keeler at 30. For our last pick, Scully or Lemmy would be awesome: potential to have the fundamentals for our spine and midfield for the next 10 years from one draft.

Wonder if North would swap 26 and 28 so we get ahead of Swans for Barnett?

 

[RobJD]

Wonder if North would swap 26 and 28 so we get ahead of Swans for Barnett?

Not sure they can simply trade back in the draft - there'd need to be something else in that deal, e.g., 26 and 56 for 28 and 47 - otherwise, the AFL may see it as draft tampering

 

[KJpie]

Essendon's problem will be a bid on Munkara before 40 - they'll have to pay for that.

It won't be a problem for Essendon from a bid perspective as Munkara is an NGA and therefore they cannot match a bid on him if he goes @ pick 40 or lower.

 

[Lings of Geelong]

Confused how they have the points to match a bid on Munkara at 41ish as they've traded out their 3 picks & now have picks in the 60's or 70' as suggested

NGA bids just need to be matched by the next available pick. Points don't matter

 

[Mongo Ming]

Stoked with Allan.

Now Keeler and Cowan/Clarke to complete the set and I’ll be one happy Vegemite.

 

[RobJD]

It won't be a problem for Essendon from a bid perspective as Munkara is an NGA and therefore they cannot match a bid on him if he goes @ pick 40 or lower.

Thanks for the correction - was thinking of Davey

 

[KJpie]

I believe he had a meniscus injury to his ??? knee and in his second game back he did the ACL in his left knee in a marking contest.

5 games, 2 weeks concussion, 8 weeks meniscus, 1 game, ACL season over

That's a season George will want to forget & hopes never repeats

 

[peter9789]

Still some Good Talent on the board with:

• Ryan
• Barnatt
• George
• Cowan
• Clarke
• Hotton
• Keeler
• Lemmey
• Scully

Who would you pick Dave?

I'm still keen on Hayes as that tall defender, or Barnett as a developing Ruck given we off loaded Grundy. But your right still a lot to look forward to with tonight's picks.

I think Allen sliding to our pick would have been unexpected.

 

[Carlthetruth]

Well done manicpie you first brought Allan to my attention almost 2 months ago

Yeah nah, funny how some people jumped on Allan right after Cal Twomey said he looked a top 15 prospect. I think Cal deserves the credit for bringing him to our attention.

 

[Hardas]

I’m not well-read enough on George’s history specifically, but I understand he has had two separate knee injuries, and the second one happened in his first game back after recovering from the first?

This covers it pretty well:

The ultimate risk v reward prospect: Why Brayden George has AFL recruiters salivating

Brayden George is one of the most intriguing prospects of this year’s AFL draft and is compared to the likes of Jordan De Goey and Christian Petracca. So why are recruiters so hesitant to pick him?

www.theage.com.au

 

[TradeDraft]

Who would you pick Dave?

I'm still keen on Hayes as that tall defender, or Barnett as a developing Ruck given we off loaded Grundy. But your right still a lot to look forward to with tonight's picks.

I think Allen sliding to our pick would have been unexpected.

Hayes
Barnatt
Lemmy
Keeler

But Not Mind Cowan/Ryan/Hotton

 

[The Royal Sampler]

This covers it pretty well:

The ultimate risk v reward prospect: Why Brayden George has AFL recruiters salivating

Brayden George is one of the most intriguing prospects of this year’s AFL draft and is compared to the likes of Jordan De Goey and Christian Petracca. So why are recruiters so hesitant to pick him?

www.theage.com.au

Thanks mate. Having read that now, I think we should take a shot at him, as I’ve said repeatedly we should be drafting for ceiling and George coupled with a Keeler, Barnett, Cowan or Clarke would be ideal.

 

[Matt_352]

Awesome that Allan slid to us. Hayes + Lemmey/Keeler would be great at our 20's picks. Super keen on Clarke, Barnett and Cowan as well though.

 

[No SPIN]

Van Es at 196cm and 97kg, with 3 top 10 finishes in the combine, and no obvious deficiencies in his highlights seems the forgotten man.

Keeler I agree, has the X factor advantage but attitude is the risk.

But why are Lemmey and Hayes, better options than Van Es?
.

 

[Couch Coach]

Van Es at 196cm and 97kg, with 3 top 10 finishes in the combine, and no obvious deficiencies in his highlights seems the forgotten man.

Keeler I agree, has the X factor advantage but attitude is the risk.

But why are Lemmey and Hayes, better options than Van Es?
.

My own thoughts:

I like Van Es but the knocks are he is similar to Nathan Brown (Ex. Coll/Stk version) that he is a stopper first and rebound/attack second.

In saying that I believe Van Es has the ability to develop this, his kicking is better that Nathan Brown's. Decision making is questionable.

Hayes has greater exposure on his rebound which pushes him higher.
Lemmey is only rated higher by some. KPF are more valueble than KPD.

 

[Crazy Tails]

With us landing Allan I would doubt that we would be in the frame for a Hustwaite type now.

Hoping for a tall like Hayes or Barnett next. If we end up trading out one of the 2nd rounders for a future 2nd I gather we would be hoping a Joe Richards type might get to our last live pick.