Preview 2022 draft prospects

[Jen2310]

Yuyu Ashwin
Height: 185cm
Weight: 77kg
D.O.B: 12-07-2004
Leagues: NAB League Boys

STRENGTHS:

• Creativity
• Outside game
• Speed
• Upside

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Consistency
• Contested work

A member of Collingwood's Next-Generation Academy, Yuyu Ashwin is a potential AFL Draft prospect, having earned a State Draft Combine invite. The Magpies have shown they do not necessarily take their NGA talents, overlooking Youseph Dib 12 months ago, and Ashwin has less representative honours. In saying that, Ashwin has greater upside compared to Dib, as a taller and cleaner player, with nice speed to impact games.

Positionally, Ashwin plays off a wing, though was pushed forward when the Chargers were at full strength, and is more than capable of filling both roles. He is often the receiver on the outside who gets and goes forward, trying to create scoring opportunities inside 50. He is not an inside ball-winner by any means, and his contested work is an area of improvement. However his outside work is what has shaped his craft, and it is enough for the Pies to consider him, especially given he will likely fall outside the top 40 picks.
On-field, Ashwin needs to improve his consistency, but his upside is evident. In a breakout performance against the Calder Cannons in Round 9, Ashwin booted three goals from 34 disposals, nine marks and eight inside 50s. With only one other game above 20 disposals, he has a high ceiling, but also an unknown production value at the top level.

Yuyu Ashwin Draft Profile

Oakleigh Chargers speedster Yuyu Ashwin is tied to Collingwood's NGA, and offers terrific run on the outside.

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[manicpie]

Great call regarding Cloke. Only a year older than Hawkins from memory but seems a lifetime ago he was playing for us.

He is only one year older than Hawkins. If I remember correctly, Cloke slid rapidly and it was the year after they banned his glove. He was never the same mark again after that. Watching some of his old highlights ans there are times when the ball had no right to stick to his hand but it seemed to stick like flies to fly paper.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

what a load of garbage, we only needed a ruckman to get a flag, that’s why we we’re losing the prelims in the previous years, because we had to go in with players like Bryan, Wood and Richards.
Jolly became available, missing piece to the puzzle

Yes and no. Buckley clearly fired up the troops by taking micks job and 2010 showed that. A lot of them clearly played for MM in 2010 and 2011. It was a big factor. If I could go back in time I would never take away the succession plan. Dont get me wrong Jolly and Ball were big inclusions as well and maybe we could have pulled it off without Bucks joining. But you would never take away the we want to keep mick factor. Its a poor call to say otherwise imo.

 

[ksardog]

Yes and no. Buckley clearly fired up the troops by taking micks job and 2010 showed that. A lot of them clearly played for MM in 2010 and 2011. It was a big factor. If I could go back in time I would never take away the succession plan. Dont get me wrong Jolly and Ball were big inclusions as well and maybe we could have pulled it off without Bucks joining. But you would never take away the we want to keep mick factor. Its a poor call to say otherwise imo.

never be convinced, it was our time because we finally had what we needed, a dominant intimidating ruck

 

[ksardog]

Jolly + Ball. We desperately needed that clearance bull too.

Ball was the bonus, Jolly was the key

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

never be convinced, it was our time because we finally had what we needed, a dominant intimidating ruck

Fair enogh. But who performed in 2010-11? Dale Thomas, Heath Shaw, Sharrod Wellingham, Chris Dawes, Harry OBrien and Dayne Beams (guess he was good 2012 as well) to name a few Who struggled or left after MM left? See the above. There was a lift in 2010-11 imo. All of the above were rated as AA or top 20 draft picks by opposition clubs as well. AA selections Thomas, Beams and OBrien. Rated top 20 picks Dawes and Wellingham. But were they as good at other clubs? Short answer. No only Beams and Shaw performed at their new clubs. I respect your opinion. But surely you can see my perspective as well.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Can we talk about this draft ?

Unseasonably cool but I use a door snake, so that helps.

 

[ksardog]

Fair enogh. But who performed in 2010-11? Dale Thomas, Heath Shaw, Sharrod Wellingham, Chris Dawes, Harry OBrien and Dayne Beams (guess he was good 2012 as well) to name a few Who struggled or left after MM left? See the above. There was a lift in 2010-11 imo. All of the above were rated as AA or top 20 draft picks by opposition clubs as well. AA selections Thomas, Beams and OBrien. Rated top 20 picks Dawes and Wellingham. But were they as good at other clubs? Short answer. No only Beams and Shaw performed at their new clubs. I respect your opinion. But surely you can see my perspective as well.

no I can’t

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

no I can’t

Thats bigfooty. All good.

 

[sr36]

Yuyu Ashwin
Height: 185cm
Weight: 77kg
D.O.B: 12-07-2004
Leagues: NAB League Boys

STRENGTHS:

• Creativity
• Outside game
• Speed
• Upside

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Consistency
• Contested work

A member of Collingwood's Next-Generation Academy, Yuyu Ashwin is a potential AFL Draft prospect, having earned a State Draft Combine invite. The Magpies have shown they do not necessarily take their NGA talents, overlooking Youseph Dib 12 months ago, and Ashwin has less representative honours. In saying that, Ashwin has greater upside compared to Dib, as a taller and cleaner player, with nice speed to impact games.

Positionally, Ashwin plays off a wing, though was pushed forward when the Chargers were at full strength, and is more than capable of filling both roles. He is often the receiver on the outside who gets and goes forward, trying to create scoring opportunities inside 50. He is not an inside ball-winner by any means, and his contested work is an area of improvement. However his outside work is what has shaped his craft, and it is enough for the Pies to consider him, especially given he will likely fall outside the top 40 picks.
On-field, Ashwin needs to improve his consistency, but his upside is evident. In a breakout performance against the Calder Cannons in Round 9, Ashwin booted three goals from 34 disposals, nine marks and eight inside 50s. With only one other game above 20 disposals, he has a high ceiling, but also an unknown production value at the top level.

Yuyu Ashwin Draft Profile

Oakleigh Chargers speedster Yuyu Ashwin is tied to Collingwood's NGA, and offers terrific run on the outside.

central.rookieme.com

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Is he a chance to miss out in the draft and end up on our list as a cat B. Does that rule still exist?

 

[swoop42]

What about the first RD talls who have failed eg Schache, Patton, Watts.
Unless you add this to the analysis, then IDK any meaningful conclusions can be made.

It's all relative IMO and for every 1st round failure there would be just as many in the 2nd round and beyond.

For mine the results make perfect sense if you think it through.

Firstly, with the amount of importance attached to talent identification basically every head recruiter will have compiled the same list of tall forwards at the very top of their draft board so it's no surprise that ultimately you stand a greater % chance of those players becoming best 22.

Likewise the rationale that sees a group of names being viewed as a level below the very best prospects and likely not drafted until the 2nd round would be a viewpoint generally shared among the various recruiters. While there might be some success stories ultimately a lot of these players who enter the system as tall forward options end up not developing enough to fill that role at AFL level and confirm why they weren't considered elite at the time of drafting.

So how then do we explain the relative success of those taken with picks outside the 2nd round or via the rookie draft in comparison?

In reality I feel that generally comes down to simple good fortune rather than superior talent identification and if you strike gold the deficiencies that stopped a player being rated a 1st or 2nd round selection in their draft year might be overcome in part due to a recovery from injury, a growth spurt, a more professional approach to diet and lifestyle choices, a big gain in strength and stamina within an elite training program or they simply mature, get better and with time become a recruitment target later in life like a Mihocek or Johnson.

Personally I feel we need to be a little bit realistic and if a tall forward prospect we deem worthy of our first pick is not available we might be better served targeting a key defender or someone like a Keeler who can potentially fill a dual role within our first 3 picks. If we remain desperate for a tall forward prospect then we seem to have about as much chance of unearthing one with our final pick as those in the 2nd round so that might be the smarter play.

P.S- I've taken a look at some of the other notable tall forward goal scorers who kicked 25+ goals this season. A couple of wins for the 2nd round for those clinging to the dream.

Adelaide - Darcy Fogarty Pick 12 2017 national draft
Brisbane - Eric Hipwood Pick 14 2015 national draft
Brisbane - Daniel McStay Pick 25 2013 national draft
Carlton - Harry McKay Pick 10 2015 national draft
Essendon - Jake Stringer Pick 5 2012 national draft
Geelong - Jeremy Cameron priority access underage selection 2010
Gold Coast - Levi Casboult Pick 44 2010 rookie draft
Hawthorn - Jack Gunston Pick 29 2009 national draft
Richmond - Jack Riewoldt Pick 13 2006 national draft
St Kilda - Tim Membrey Pick 46 2012 national draft
West Coast - Jack Darling Pick 26 2010 national draft

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Is he a chance to miss out in the draft and end up on our list as a cat B. Does that rule still exist?

Yes and yes.

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[Bianconeri]

I think the big issue we had was our criteria was wrong for talls and the ones we generally got late were skinny tall agile ones who hadn't been contest winners at any level, but suited an athletic profile that Dekka favoured. Whereas the AFL successful late picked talls have tended to be good contested players who were seen as physically NQR - a la Mihocek.

I think that was a profile Bucks preffered rather than Dekka.

 

[Bianconeri]

And let’s face it while Maxy was technically tall enough to be a key defender, he was never anything more than a loose intercept defender. The rare occasions he had to be responsible for an actual opponent, he was pulverised as a general rule.

I’m still upset we decided to drop Keeffe to play Maxwell as a key defender only for him to get pummelled by Carlisle of all players and retire after that.

 

[Jen2310]

Is he a chance to miss out in the draft and end up on our list as a cat B. Does that rule still exist?

yeah it still does. If we nominate him yet yet he doesnt get bid upon, then we can auto add him to the Cat B list.

 

[Apex36]

Is he a chance to miss out in the draft and end up on our list as a cat B. Does that rule still exist?

I’d say it’s more than likely. And yes, the rule exists.

 

[KJpie]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking for Sept period​

little change to the previous 30 player rankings in August

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey rates the performances of 30 of 2022's top draft prospects

www.afl.com.au

 

[Carlthetruth]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking for Sept​

little change to the past 30

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey rates the performances of 30 of 2022's top draft prospects

www.afl.com.au

Interesting Jefferson comparison to Harry Jones, according to a few posters he plays nothing like him which is code for, has never taken the time to watch him play an actual game.

 

[Kirby]

Yuyu Ashwin
Height: 185cm
Weight: 77kg
D.O.B: 12-07-2004
Leagues: NAB League Boys

STRENGTHS:

• Creativity
• Outside game
• Speed
• Upside

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Consistency
• Contested work

A member of Collingwood's Next-Generation Academy, Yuyu Ashwin is a potential AFL Draft prospect, having earned a State Draft Combine invite. The Magpies have shown they do not necessarily take their NGA talents, overlooking Youseph Dib 12 months ago, and Ashwin has less representative honours. In saying that, Ashwin has greater upside compared to Dib, as a taller and cleaner player, with nice speed to impact games.

Positionally, Ashwin plays off a wing, though was pushed forward when the Chargers were at full strength, and is more than capable of filling both roles. He is often the receiver on the outside who gets and goes forward, trying to create scoring opportunities inside 50. He is not an inside ball-winner by any means, and his contested work is an area of improvement. However his outside work is what has shaped his craft, and it is enough for the Pies to consider him, especially given he will likely fall outside the top 40 picks.
On-field, Ashwin needs to improve his consistency, but his upside is evident. In a breakout performance against the Calder Cannons in Round 9, Ashwin booted three goals from 34 disposals, nine marks and eight inside 50s. With only one other game above 20 disposals, he has a high ceiling, but also an unknown production value at the top level.

Yuyu Ashwin Draft Profile

Oakleigh Chargers speedster Yuyu Ashwin is tied to Collingwood's NGA, and offers terrific run on the outside.

central.rookieme.com

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I reckon he has next to zero chance of being drafted by us.

He doesn't suit our style at all - non competitive outside player.

 

[BEEG]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking for Sept​

little change to the past 30

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey rates the performances of 30 of 2022's top draft prospects

www.afl.com.au

That's a rubbish Phantom draft.

 

[Scodog10]

That's a rubbish Phantom draft.

It’s a power ranking not a phantom.

 

[manicpie]

yeah it still does. If we nominate him yet yet he doesnt get bid upon, then we can auto add him to the Cat B list.

I could think of a lot worse players to add to the CatB list. There is something about him that says he'd be worth a risk

 

[Soups]

It’s a power ranking not a phantom.

How do people still get this confused?

 

[MightyRoar]

How do people still get this confused?

Probably checking it out whilst driving in the car

 

[Harry O]

How do people still get this confused?

Stunning really. So many nuffies out there