Preview 2022 draft prospects

[manicpie]

We've got 4 picks. I can't imagine the first not simply being Hine's best available - regardless of position.

Hine is not risk averse in his selections and I would be backing the ACL kid to be our choice, if he's still available.

George is a bit of an excitement machine, but that knee

 

[manicpie]

I'd narrow it down to just agility. Although with Scully, also whether they think he will bulk up.

It would be to his advantage if he was able to jump a bit higher than he does, bit flat footed

 

[sr36]

George is a bit of an excitement machine, but that knee

Dekka doesn't mind a risk. That kid with a dodgy knee would fit in well with:

That kid who was deaf.
That kid with a heart condition.
That kid who couldn't run at all, who it was later discovered had a heart condition.
That kid who was the nephew of one of Australia's most notorious criminals.
That kid who loved a smoke and hadn't ever taken footy seriously.
All those kids he's picked who missed most or all of their final year of u18s
All those kids who'd never played footy before.

 

[TradeDraft]

And if that frame can fill out better than Poulter was able to, makes a tantalizing prospect to think about for that size. Able to play down back also.

He looks already Bigger then Poulter

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

There are video highlights with lowlights in them already on YouTube. Shows there turnovers etc.

A lot of the videos of draftees on YouTube are just compilations of every touch they had in a particular game, so they're a lot less flattering than a typical highlights video.

 

[manicpie]

Dekka doesn't mind a risk. That kid with a dodgy knee would fit in well with:

That kid who was deaf.
That kid with a heart condition.
That kid who couldn't run at all, who it was later discovered had a heart condition.
That kid who was the nephew of one of Australia's most notorious criminals.
That kid who loved a smoke and hadn't ever taken footy seriously.
All those kids he's picked who missed most or all of their final year of u18s
All those kids who'd never played footy before.

Well, when you put it that way

 

[sr36]

Well, when you put it that way

I'm trying to think if any of his risks have actually paid off? Can't think of any.

I think he should double down - it's been red 47 times in a row, it's gotta be black this time.

 

[Apex36]

Dekka doesn't mind a risk. That kid with a dodgy knee would fit in well with:

That kid who was deaf.
That kid with a heart condition.
That kid who couldn't run at all, who it was later discovered had a heart condition.
That kid who was the nephew of one of Australia's most notorious criminals.
That kid who loved a smoke and hadn't ever taken footy seriously.
All those kids he's picked who missed most or all of their final year of u18s
All those kids who'd never played footy before.

To be fair, the club had absolutely no clue about Kirby’s heart condition (nor did Kirby) until he collapsed during a game.

The risk with him was his general application and fitness. It took him nearly a full year to get a debut and he was completely cooked after a quarter of footy at AFL level.

 

[loki04]

Scully and Lemmey will be an easy call for reruiters.

Sure they are tall and can mark on a lead and kick reasonably well.

What will make or break them is:
- Can they get separation on the lead (Combine sprint results)
- Can they turn 'on a dime' or do they have the turning circle of a mack truck (Combine agility test)
- Can they repeat sprint or are they one trick ponies [lead, mark, goal]. It's easy to be a one-man target in U18 and get the ball evey time you lead. In the AFL you need to string multiple leads together because you are not rewarded every time.

IMO Scully will stuggle if he makes it to the AFL. I don't believe he has AFL level separation and I don't think he has multiple avenues to goal in him (apart from marking). Hopefully I'm wrong because I hate writing off any young player.

Lemmey I am unsure on as I don't have access to testing results. If he tests well then I would take a punt on him with a 2nd rounder onwards.

Scully has great lateral movement and ground skills for his height (201cm) that is evident even in his highlights where a few of his goals are crumbing stepping around and breaking from opponents to snap.

 

[Couch Coach]

West Coast Mock Draft:

Competitions - WCE Board 2022 Mock Draft

Draft Order and Selections ROUND 1 : 1. Brisbane - Will Ashcroft (F/S bid matched) 2. GWS - Aaron Cadman 3. North Melbourne - George Wardlaw 4. North Melbourne - Harry Sheezel 5. Essendon - Elijah Tsatas 6. Gold Coast - Oliver Hollands 7. Hawthorn - Jhye Clark 8. Geelong - Jedd Busslinger 9...

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Harry Barnett, Lachie Cowan, Charlie Clarke and Jaidon Magor

Carlton Phantom Draft:

Prediction - 2022 Carlton Board Phantom Draft

Did you want Brisbane also mate? Sorry didn't see your post in time. Happy to say 'matched' to the Fletcher pick as well if you need. :)

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Josh Weddle, Max Gruzewski and Isaac Keeler

GWS Mock Draft - Starting 4 Nov

Prediction - Giants BF Board 2022 Mock Draft

This is the GWS Mock Draft order for the GWS Board Mock Draft. Reminder, we'll select 3 rounds - as we get close to that (after a number of bids & matches, the last 'third round pick' will come earlier, I'll assess where we actually finish. Reminder to tag me into any trades, bids & matches...

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TBC

Bigfooty Mock Draft:

BigFooty Official - 2022 OFFICIAL BIGFOOTY PHANTOM DRAFT

IF YOU WANT TO READ THROUGH THE THREAD AND ONLY SEE THE SELECTIONS RATHER THAN COMMENTARY FROM NON-DRAFTERS, CLICK 'READER MODE' NEXT TO YOUR 'WATCH' BUTTON If you want to read a specific player profile/ selection, you can use the 'Search' function on the top right of your page, and change the...

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Isaac Keeler, Harry Barnett, Mitch Szybkowski and Jakob Ryan

 

[TradeDraft]

To be fair, the club had absolutely no clue about Kirby’s heart condition (nor did Kirby) until he collapsed during a game.

The risk with him was his general application and fitness. It took him nearly a full year to get a debut and he was completely cooked after a quarter of footy at AFL level.

and That might of played into his Heart Condition Sadly

 

[KinderSmock]

Dekka doesn't mind a risk. That kid with a dodgy knee would fit in well with:

That kid who was deaf.
That kid with a heart condition.
That kid who couldn't run at all, who it was later discovered had a heart condition.
That kid who was the nephew of one of Australia's most notorious criminals.
That kid who loved a smoke and hadn't ever taken footy seriously.
All those kids he's picked who missed most or all of their final year of u18s
All those kids who'd never played footy before.

McLarty (the hearing impaired kid) wasn't really a risk. He was a KPP who fitted an area of need and we drafted. It never impacted his ability during the game.

Jaidyn Stephenson had a heart condition and looked like the pick of his class until he wasn't. His heart wasn't why he was a poor draft choice.

Sier was a risky choice but was 120 seconds away from a premiership. Would he have been such a bad choice then?

No idea who the nephew of the notorious criminal but we can't choose our families.

All those kids who missed their final year of u18s had attributes we felt we could work with. Often, they were late picks so it was speculative at best.

Dekka has his weaknesses but he's done well with the resources he has.

 

[sr36]

McLarty (the hearing impaired kid) wasn't really a risk. He was a KPP who fitted an area of need and we drafted. It never impacted his ability during the game.

Jaidyn Stephenson had a heart condition and looked like the pick of his class until he wasn't. His heart wasn't why he was a poor draft choice.

Sier was a risky choice but was 120 seconds away from a premiership. Would he have been such a bad choice then?

No idea who the nephew of the notorious criminal but we can't choose our families.

All those kids who missed their final year of u18s had attributes we felt we could work with. Often, they were late picks so it was speculative at best.

Dekka has his weaknesses but he's done well with the resources he has.

I'm not using risk as a negative, I hope we go for the blue sky of George and select him if he's available. I was just pointing out that Dekka isn't conservative. But some of your claims of not a risk are absurd - a deaf kid in an age where leaders are regularly seen shouting out onfield instructions to organise the team's fluid defensive structures, who had also missed his final year of U18s due to injury, so also didn't really have any runs on the board, and whilst I'm talking about runs, I won't mention his ability to run - not a risk becasue he's a KPP????????

 

[Jen2310]

Dekka doesn't mind a risk. That kid with a dodgy knee would fit in well with:

That kid who was deaf.
That kid with a heart condition.
That kid who couldn't run at all, who it was later discovered had a heart condition.
That kid who was the nephew of one of Australia's most notorious criminals.
That kid who loved a smoke and hadn't ever taken footy seriously.
All those kids he's picked who missed most or all of their final year of u18s
All those kids who'd never played footy before.

Dekka loves a challenge.

 

[Rusty Beam]

West Coast Mock Draft:

Competitions - WCE Board 2022 Mock Draft

Draft Order and Selections ROUND 1 : 1. Brisbane - Will Ashcroft (F/S bid matched) 2. GWS - Aaron Cadman 3. North Melbourne - George Wardlaw 4. North Melbourne - Harry Sheezel 5. Essendon - Elijah Tsatas 6. Gold Coast - Oliver Hollands 7. Hawthorn - Jhye Clark 8. Geelong - Jedd Busslinger 9...

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Harry Barnett, Lachie Cowan, Charlie Clarke and Jaidon Magor

Carlton Phantom Draft:

Prediction - 2022 Carlton Board Phantom Draft

Did you want Brisbane also mate? Sorry didn't see your post in time. Happy to say 'matched' to the Fletcher pick as well if you need. :)

www.bigfooty.com

Josh Weddle, Max Gruzewski and Isaac Keeler

GWS Mock Draft - Starting 4 Nov

Prediction - Giants BF Board 2022 Mock Draft

This is the GWS Mock Draft order for the GWS Board Mock Draft. Reminder, we'll select 3 rounds - as we get close to that (after a number of bids & matches, the last 'third round pick' will come earlier, I'll assess where we actually finish. Reminder to tag me into any trades, bids & matches...

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TBC

Bigfooty Mock Draft:

BigFooty Official - 2022 OFFICIAL BIGFOOTY PHANTOM DRAFT

IF YOU WANT TO READ THROUGH THE THREAD AND ONLY SEE THE SELECTIONS RATHER THAN COMMENTARY FROM NON-DRAFTERS, CLICK 'READER MODE' NEXT TO YOUR 'WATCH' BUTTON If you want to read a specific player profile/ selection, you can use the 'Search' function on the top right of your page, and change the...

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Isaac Keeler, Harry Barnett, Mitch Szybkowski and Jakob Ryan

The selections by Pie 4 Life in the Official Big Footy draft were glorious.

Jakob Ryan being available so late is ridiculous value.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Interesting rumours. I have some scouting mail that I have sourced myself and they support your findings which are very useful!

• Busslinger rumour is new, although when I was crafting a phantom draft weeks ago, I had him at that mark. He's a KPP and Geelong would be eager to lure in a young backman. They'll have done their homework on his go home prospects. If Clark hates his new side, they can always target him in 2024.
• Your top five seems accurate. GWS will take Cadman. It's whether they bid on Ashcroft or not. For me, I hope they bid because the Lions need to pay a fair price for top tier talent.
• Phillipou said, in an interview with Fox, he'd take himself as the number one selection. Not the worst crime but could indicate poor, self-centred character. If he's available, then I don't see why we shouldn't take him. Character is turning into a very important selection criterion as clubs don't want idiotic kids who do a De Goey on holiday in Bali. Whether or not JDG did anything wrong is up for debate, but the point is he still brought unwanted, media attention that no other player managed to whilst on holidays there.
• Carlton take Hollands or Hayes - I've heard both rumours.
• It makes sense for St Kilda to take the kid they've developed - he's in their system.

One of our ITK posters indicated 'red flags' regarding Phillipou back on the 28/08, and that we wouldn't be targeting him.

I love a bit of confidence with the kids coming through as well, but perhaps it's a fine line in some cases.

 

[sr36]

To be fair, the club had absolutely no clue about Kirby’s heart condition (nor did Kirby) until he collapsed during a game.

The risk with him was his general application and fitness. It took him nearly a full year to get a debut and he was completely cooked after a quarter of footy at AFL level.

Agree, although I do think I referenced all of that, albeit not explicitly.

 

[Scodog10]

Some don't in my eyes...

Such as?

 

[manicpie]

If we miss out on Hayes/Keeler or Lemmey, I'm starting to warm to Scully. 50 goals for the season and he is a really strong mark. He looks like he could use a couple of years on the skipping rope to help improve his agility and spring. There are plenty of knocks on him and I find him a bit hard to assess. do we just bite the bullet and take him with our third pick if he's available? At worst he could become a Casboult type with a bit of weight on him

 

[Jen2310]

I like the H's in this draft. After trading Henry, I hope we end up with one of Hewett, Hustwaite or Hotton. It's a shame Hollands will be out of reach as I'm really big on him.

Hayes doesn't impress me much more than a kid like Josh Rotham

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Josh Rotham

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.8

2star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

167.2

3star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

157.5

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

168.0

3star

did a few years back. I think he's overrated due to a lack of quality talls available this year. I wouldn't begrudge the club taking a punt if he got to one of our second rounders but I think we can do much better with our first

Hayes may not be available at our pick given Carlton are rumoured to be interested at pick 10. They are mulling over him and Hollands.


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[No SPIN]

George is a bit of an excitement machine, but that knee

Hopefully recovers like Petracca after an ACL in his first season.

 

[No SPIN]

I'm trying to think if any of his risks have actually paid off? Can't think of any.

I think he should double down - it's been red 47 times in a row, it's gotta be black this time.

Stevo’s heart conditions was never an issue.

 

[sr36]

Stevo’s heart conditions was never an issue.

I beg to differ, it's pea like qualities have had a big impact on his career to date.

 

[Bear Nectar]

All good points but if you look at the past 7 Collingwood drafts, there was only one opportunity to draft a key forward. And we cocked it up by selecting Stephenson instead of Naughton.

This 2022 draft, while it may be considered weak it depth, I think this actually helps our position with our pick in the teens and in the 20s. While the premium key position players Cadman, Jefferson, Buslinger, Weedle are probably gone by our pick, I really like the secondary options like Hayes, Hustwaite, Keeler, Gruzewski. And someone like Van Es who starred at the combine, will probably shoot up the draft board to the 2nd round. I think we going to get a good player if we a brave enough to select one or two of these key position players.

to be fair, most people thought we hit the jackpot with Stevo especially after his Rising Star win.
And Naughton was pegged as a KPD rather than key forward. We already had Moore, Roughie and Howe at the time.
Events proved otherwise

 

[No SPIN]

One of our ITK posters indicated 'red flags' regarding Phillipou back on the 28/08, and that we wouldn't be targeting him.

I love a bit of confidence with the kids coming through as well, but perhaps it's a fine line in some cases.

Always hard with these personalities types - Franklin was known to take phones call during his interviews, which put off a number of clubs.