List Mgmt. 2022 List Management: Draft, Trade and FA Pt2: Electric Boogaloo

[Kram]

If this does happen to be the case,

I’d consider offering 13 , 19 , F2 for Jackson. Probably values him more than he’s worth, but it’s right in the middle. And more than the scums going to offer.
Hold the future 1st

Throwing in a F2 we may as well give em the shirt off our back whilst we are at it!

 

[pK75]

Taking stock, suppose we do trade out all of Logue, Acres, Lobb, Meek, Tucker, Mundy & delist Blakely, bring in Jackson and Sharp. Here’s what our 2023 list looks like:

FB: Walker, Pearce, Ryan
HB: Clark, Cox, Young
C: O’Driscol, Brayshaw, Aish
HF: Walters, Jackson, Frederick
FF: Tabs, Amiss, Schultz
FOL: Darcy, Serong, Brodie

Bench: Fyfe, Chapman, Switowski, Banfield

Depth:
Backs: Hamling, Wilson Hughes

Mids: Johnson, Erasmus, Sharp, Worner, Henry

Forwards: Treacy, Sturt, Kuek

Ruck: Benning??

Still unsigned:
Western
Crowden

Looking at that, we need to either hold Lobb or Meek or bring in another ruck as backup, hard as they’ll be behind Darcy and Jackson, maybe Neale from Geelong as a back up Ruck/Forward would be nice?

 

[salim malik]

Freo having absolutely no bargaining power with the Logue trade. North can get him for nothing .They can make the take it or leave it deal, what pick could we realistically get. Could be a reaming

 

[Scham]

Taking stock, suppose we do trade out all of Logue, Acres, Lobb, Meek, Tucker, Mundy & delist Blakely, bring in Jackson and Sharp. Here’s what our 2023 list looks like:

FB: Walker, Pearce, Ryan
HB: Clark, Cox, Young
C: O’Driscol, Brayshaw, Acres
HF: Walters, Jackson, Frederick
FF: Tabs, Amiss, Schultz
FOL: Darcy, Serong, Brodie

Bench: Fyfe, Chapman, Switowski, Banfield

Depth:
Backs: Hamling, Wilson Hughes

Mids: Johnson, Erasmus, Sharp, Worner, Henry

Forwards: Treacy, Sturt, Kuek

Ruck: Benning??

Still unsigned:
Western
Crowden

Looking at that, we need to either hold Lobb or Meek or bring in another ruck as backup, hard as they’ll be behind Darcy and Jackson, maybe Neale from Geelong as a back up Ruck/Forward would be nice?

You've left Acres in there.

 

[eastfreo75]

Freo having absolutely no bargaining power with the Logue trade. North can get him for nothing .They can make the take it or leave it deal, what pick could we realistically get. Could be a reaming

Logue won’t want to go out like that.

I think it’s either their potential PP 19 or 2023 second pick.

Unders but not a horrible outcome.

 

[Docker82]

Taking stock, suppose we do trade out all of Logue, Acres, Lobb, Meek, Tucker, Mundy & delist Blakely, bring in Jackson and Sharp. Here’s what our 2023 list looks like:

FB: Walker, Pearce, Ryan
HB: Clark, Cox, Young
C: O’Driscol, Brayshaw, Acres
HF: Walters, Jackson, Frederick
FF: Tabs, Amiss, Schultz
FOL: Darcy, Serong, Brodie

Bench: Fyfe, Chapman, Switowski, Banfield

Depth:
Backs: Hamling, Wilson Hughes

Mids: Johnson, Erasmus, Sharp, Worner, Henry

Forwards: Treacy, Sturt, Kuek

Ruck: Benning??

Still unsigned:
Western
Crowden

Looking at that, we need to either hold Lobb or Meek or bring in another ruck as backup, hard as they’ll be behind Darcy and Jackson, maybe Neale from Geelong as a back up Ruck/Forward would be nice?

Geelong just re-signed Neale. Clubs don’t usually trade players they just re-signed but given it was just for 2023 maybe they don’t rate him overly highly?

I’m happy enough with a third genuine ruck for depth tbh. If a taller KPF is available at one of the second rounders we get from our trades I wouldn’t be against pulling the trigger as well.

I think a back up ruck comes from the state leagues as no AFL listed ruck is going to move across the country for the career suicide that would be sitting behind Darcy and Jackson. Realistically if one of these two is injured we’ll most like play the other in the ruck for 75-80% of the game and bring an extra KPF into the side. If Meek stays he’d be in serious consideration to play alongside Darcy or Jackson but I don’t expect a potential replacement to be nearly as good.

 

[ImperialPurple]

I'm including Meek in the going out that get's what I listed.

Approaching it as a net thing (and I think this is going to make people unhappy), I think the best case scenario is like;

Out: 1st, Lobb, Logue, Meek, Tucker, Acres
In: Jackson, 19, Sharp, 30

It's likely going to be worse than that tbh.

I don’t mind this at all. Pretty much equates to:

Lobb and 1st for Jackson
Logue for 19
Acres for Sharp
Meek for 30
Tucker for free

So really, all that we’re missing is a pick in the mid-40s for Tucker. Maybe we can squeeze a F3 for him, but if not I can live with that.

 

[salim malik]

Logue won’t want to go out like that.

I think it’s either their potential PP 19 or 2023 second pick.

Unders but not a horrible outcome.

Logue was a top 10 pick with years of development in him . Sorry but I can't agree , They are horrible outcomes.
Logue choosing the Kangaroos is a disaster.
All well and good him saying he wants the best for the club but when the crunch comes him saying Sorry but I did my best will be cold comfort to Freo.

 

[eastfreo75]

Logue was a top 10 pick with years of development in him . Sorry but I can't agree , They are horrible outcomes.
Logue choosing the Kangaroos is a disaster.
All well and good him saying he wants the best for the club but when the crunch comes him saying Sorry but I did my best will be cold comfort to Freo.

Horrible outcome he walks to the Roos for free.

We don’t have any hand.

The reality is that Logue was played out of position and behind Cox and Pearce.

Logue going frees up $500k per year and hopefully we can get a useful pick.

 

[Kram]

Relax, still annoying of course but we will at least get an 'ok' deal for Logue.

 

[eastfreo75]

Relax we will at least get an 'ok' deal for Logue.

Can’t see us getting more than pick 19 or F2.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

Taking stock, suppose we do trade out all of Logue, Acres, Lobb, Meek, Tucker, Mundy & delist Blakely, bring in Jackson and Sharp. Here’s what our 2023 list looks like:

FB: Walker, Pearce, Ryan
HB: Clark, Cox, Young
C: O’Driscol, Brayshaw, Acres
HF: Walters, Jackson, Frederick
FF: Tabs, Amiss, Schultz
FOL: Darcy, Serong, Brodie

Bench: Fyfe, Chapman, Switowski, Banfield

Depth:
Backs: Hamling, Wilson Hughes

Mids: Johnson, Erasmus, Sharp, Worner, Henry

Forwards: Treacy, Sturt, Kuek

Ruck: Benning??

Still unsigned:
Western
Crowden

Looking at that, we need to either hold Lobb or Meek or bring in another ruck as backup, hard as they’ll be behind Darcy and Jackson, maybe Neale from Geelong as a back up Ruck/Forward would be nice?

Just looking at that projected team list, it's quite obvious that the slated forward line is not nearly potent enough. We must somehow secure an additional KPF of some worth during the trade period.

 

[CapitalA]

No he won’t he’s not a free agent

My bad.

 

[Taylor]

The AFL is pouring extra picks for free into the soup for North. As long as Logue isn't convinced to screw freo in the PSD we can get a deal thats quite alright

 

[Grape Bear]

Logue won’t want to go out like that.

I think it’s either their potential PP 19 or 2023 second pick.

Unders but not a horrible outcome.

Does Logue have a choice in the matter, though?

 

[Descent]

Does Logue have a choice in the matter, though?

Absolutely. He can allow us to have discussions with other clubs if north are bringing nothing. Much the same way that Jackson could allow Melbourne to trade with West Coast if we bring nothing (which is what I expect is meant by the current trade request to WA). The current wording for Logue is that north are his preference. He has good offers from other clubs, too.

 

[blue shark]

Taking stock, suppose we do trade out all of Logue, Acres, Lobb, Meek, Tucker, Mundy & delist Blakely, bring in Jackson and Sharp. Here’s what our 2023 list looks like:

FB: Walker, Pearce, Ryan
HB: Clark, Cox, Young
C: O’Driscol, Brayshaw, Acres
HF: Walters, Jackson, Frederick
FF: Tabs, Amiss, Schultz
FOL: Darcy, Serong, Brodie

Bench: Fyfe, Chapman, Switowski, Banfield

Depth:
Backs: Hamling, Wilson Hughes

Mids: Johnson, Erasmus, Sharp, Worner, Henry

Forwards: Treacy, Sturt, Kuek

Ruck: Benning??

Still unsigned:
Western
Crowden

Looking at that, we need to either hold Lobb or Meek or bring in another ruck as backup, hard as they’ll be behind Darcy and Jackson, maybe Neale from Geelong as a back up Ruck/Forward would be nice?

Treacy can pinch hit in the ruck. But will have to add muscle instead of trying
to be too lean. Could also play defence if required?
What is noticeable is the lack of size, and it’s noticeable in finals type footy.
Losing the bigger bodies of Logue, Acres, Mundy, in a team not renowned for
tackling, pressure will require a rethink of the preseason, gameplan.
We are still quick with leg speed but falter in reaction time to deliver the ball
quickly to the forwards.
Adding a fit Fyfe will help, and Erasmus, Johnson.
But the player that could really arrive is Sturt.
His draft bio included express pace, pressure acts, and goal kicking.
Amiss you can see will excel as the 3rd tall, and if we add Jackson he
helps both midfield and contested marks.

 

[Docker82]

Just looking at that projected team list, it's quite obvious that the slated forward line is not nearly potent enough. We must somehow secure an additional KPF of some worth during the trade period.

I just don’t see who this player is tbh.

People have suggested hacks like Schache because they’re talls but I think the reality is they take us no closer next year and would get in the way of development for Amiss and Treacy.

People have suggested Georgiades and McDonald. I rate them both but think the chances of getting either this year is zero.

People have suggested Riccardi and others I don’t mind but it seems more like a random ideas thought up on BigFooty rather than what may actually happen. Corbett is the exception as it could happen but he’s going to have other interest.

Think we’re better off developing our own and setting money aside for future attempts to lure McDonald and Georgiades tbh.

Isn’t ideal short term but I’d rather do that than recruit sh** talls because they’re tall.

 

[Polo342]

Any chance we could get Jacob Vanrooyen this year? Noticed he hasnt signed yet for Melbourne and is out of contract end of next year . From memory the guy bleeds purple

 

[Docker82]

Pick 19 is a decent return for an out of contract Logue. In fact I’m not sure North Melbourne would want to pay that much tbh.

Throwing in Tucker and/or late picks we get from other trades might just get it over the line.

Hope North get more than pick 19/20 when their assistance package gets announced tbh. If the AFL gave them pick 11 and 20 for example, I don’t think they think as much about giving up pick 19/20 for a long term KPD and fringe mid.

 

[pK75]

You've left Acres in there.

Damn phone wrote Acres instead of Aish, fixed now

 

[Alfonz]

Absolutely. He can allow us to have discussions with other clubs if north are bringing nothing. Much the same way that Jackson could do allow Melbourne to trade with West Coast if we bring nothing (which is what I expect is meant by the current trade request to WA). The current wording for Logue is that north are his preference. He has good offers from other clubs, too.

Come on ... he is going to North. Negotiations will be between Bell and his counterpart at North. Logue won't be involved and the North list manager will go to Logue at the end and say "this is the very best we can do under the circumstances, as we can't trade the #1 pick, blah, blah. What are your bank account details?". And Logue will go "yes".

Our best hope is the AFL give them a PP with the condition it is traded for mature talent, and the Roos don't have anybody else on their radar. If not, we might be able to get F2 at absolute best, but they ballsed that up once with their trade for CCJ and might be unwilling to do that again.

 

[Taylor]

Logue has been offered a bigger deal than Cerra who was also out of contract. I don't think a top ten pick is so far fetched

 

[mike91]

How many clubs are going to offer a 30 year old pea heart $500,000pa though?

Pea heart? God that's cringe. Lobb played injured in the last 2 months and did a damn good job.

 

[Cobbler]

I doubt any AFL club would try to overly shaft another and offer peanuts in the hope a deal isn’t achieved and that player goes through PSD. It’s miles from the norm.

That all said it’s why I think we need to lure a player to Freo in a deal for Logue and Tucker.

If it’s picks? Then as many have said 19 would be the absolute best we could hope for. North would more likely place a F2 on the table and just let it sit there the whole trade period.