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I'd prefer we keep Tucker.
With Mundy gone and Fyfe on his last legs we are only really one injury away from needing him to play midfield each week.
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I'd prefer we keep Tucker.
With Mundy gone and Fyfe on his last legs we are only really one injury away from needing him to play midfield each week.
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Acres, Meek and Tucker maybe, dont think Logue and Lobb are due to cap management.
If Logue played for another club, say North, and we were trying to poach him, what would you be prepared to give up?
In trade: a late 1st/early 2nd?
In salary: 550k over 4 years?
I think that would be the absolute limit of what I would pay to get him. Even though clubs generally pay overs to attract talent he is surely not worth one scrap more in terms of trade or salary.
And so I'd be annoyed if we pay more to retain him or forgo anything approaching that value at trade.
In trade: a late 1st/early 2nd?
In salary: 550k over 4 years?
I think that would be the absolute limit of what I would pay to get him. Even though clubs generally pay overs to attract talent he is surely not worth one scrap more in terms of trade or salary.
And so I'd be annoyed if we pay more to retain him or forgo anything approaching that value at trade.
Erasmus, Johnson, Henry will all be ahead of him though.
He's had enough chances to cement himself in weak and strong sides now. Get what we can for him while we can IMO.
no way they’d get anything higher then that
I think it's a pretty big stretch to attribute every potential outgoing to Jackson. Lobb requested a trade last year and is being very well compensated on his current contract. Tucker is at a stage of his career where he wants playing time that we can't guarantee. He's probably seen the writing on the wall with Erasmus and Johnson. From all reports our capacity to offer what we think Logue is worth isn't affected by Jackson. He has a great deal in front of him from Freo, it's just that there are other clubs who are willing to give him far more. That can happen at anytime.
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You'd need to apply to a specific situation which make sit harder. Someone like Dogs I'd have thought would be willing to give up a late first and 600k for a player they'll get in their prime and address a major deficiency in their team.
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I think Logue should be worth a late 1st as a ready to go KPD a team can get for his whole prime but it would depend on what a team has to trade
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Tucker's partner moved back to Melbourne at the start of the year, he's been playing on borrowed time here since. The opportunity could well be a result of what is to come at the end of the season, playing O'Driscoll ahead of Tucker is better for Freo 2023 - it's also worked out better for Freo 2022.
Understood. The specific situation is ourselves -- would you be happy with giving up a late 1st and 550k for 4 years? I wouldn't and so I don't want us to overpay to keep
Didn't he think about going home before signing his last deal?
In one sense it's good business to have had him re-sign and then request a trade while still under contract this year. Rather than having him leave last year when uncontracted.
If freo got offered 19 for Logue they should take it and run
Depends what we get back. Lets not discount Bell's ability to use any currency we get to swing some other trades our way too.
Lets not forget we have Erasmus and Johnson with a full year and a full pre-season in them by next year, ready to roll. Plus Henry is a step away from making the grade (he provides as much output as Tucker at the moment but with greater speed/delivery). So the loss of Acres and Tucker is no big deal IMO. Better to get what we can for Tucker while we can otherwise he will be another Crowden.
Logue and Meek have the potential to become stars if put in the right role at other clubs so would be a loss IMO. Our depth would certainly be weaker without them. But we can't really give them the role they deserve, now or in the immediate future, so we may need to get what we can for them.
Logue has all the tools and he reminds me a little of Kouta in that he has all the athletic traits, but came to football late and takes some time for it to all click. His desperation and ability at ground level and his fitness/tank make me think he could go well in the midfield in the right environment.
Traecy is also more than capable of filling the role that Logue has played forward this year also. Kid is a bull and we forget he has had some bad luck this year. Just needs some consistent playing time and a consistent role. Has been messed around with a lot playing ruck/high forward/deep forward, in and out of the firsts, injured, had to put up with some crappy weather conditions in a few Peel matches. That Subi game showed what he could become - 14 marks, 3 goals whilst also pinch hitting in ruck.
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It's possible that conversations on moving back to Melbourne started as a result of him exploring options and then when the football options solidified around staying at Freo the opportunities outside of football opened up so the partner moved back to explore those and now the situation has changed.
Gerard Healy who played for Melbourne FC? I recall Gary Lyon talking up the Hogan trade as being 2 firsts plus etc from Freo and then it ended much less than that. Still a rubbish trade by us but nowhere near what was getting put about by the AFL media commentators to try to boost up the trade value of Hogan.
Unfortunately there is a lot of propaganda out of VFL heartland if they think they can influence the value of their assets or spook a club into getting jumpy about a trade.
I hope we are much more professional now days and walk away if that is in the best long term interests of the FFC.
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I don't think Logue is going anywhere. He said earlier he doesn't want to leave WA which is why the WC suggested trade in the media appeared. He apparently has a fair deal on the table. We're just being Colin Young'd I think to get a bit more $ or years. That is all.
Losing the players between 18-25 best is what good teams need to get use to. It'll happen more regularly to us in the future if we start winning flags. As long as we're keeping our top 10-15 players we will be fine.
Either way, if we bring in Jackson one of Logue or Lobb will have to go so he has a spot to play in. I just hope we can get the Jackson trade done quickly before we get 3-4 more trade request otherwise the Dees will want more.
Either way, if we bring in Jackson one of Logue or Lobb will have to go so he has a spot to play in. I just hope we can get the Jackson trade done quickly before we get 3-4 more trade request otherwise the Dees will want more.
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What if we didn't have alex Pearce and guys like Cameron and buddy franklin kicked bags on us this year, while we watched logue keep them goalless?
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done as in has done a deal with Melbourne, or is leaving?
It's not 3 because she writes "ily" in the comments of that post, maybe she quit he job to come back to Perth?
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