Trades 2022 Round 2 Trades ....You wouldn't dare, would you ?

[buttox]

Whitfield groin?

Sounds like a corkie to me.
Wont know until he trains how he goes running on it.
Its not covid as another poster said he was out and about with team mates yesterday.

 

[Pocket Aces]

I would save trade boosts for upgrade season, I would prefer to gamble on a rookie correction in R2 rather than blow a boost in R3.

 

[buttox]

I would save trade boosts for upgrade season, I would prefer to gamble on a rookie correction in R2 rather than blow a boost in R3.

100%
Folks using them this week will wish they had not later in the year.
Only 4 rookies went over 72.
If you have none of Daicos, Hayes, Martin and Rachele you could still do 2 trades each week and get them all.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

If covid strikes, you are likely to be stuffed anyway.

It just depends which team it hits and when.

Would you change your team due to Covid? Or would it be considered a short term injury?

So having 3 trades may reduce the impact, but won’t solve the covid issue

Depends, on the player and how many rounds they are out I guess. But yeah it's probably not worth holding the boosts past the byes.

 

[MacStradbroke]

That is the balancing act.
Are you better of making the changes earlier or saving them for GF in leagues.
Will you do well enough to hold them long term without changing you team.
for me its the lead into the byes and hopefully having 22 premos for round 12.
Having a full team pre byes would be a massive advantage imo.
I suppose in the end it comes down to the bump you get for being upgraded before others vs having a three trade safety net for the last game or 2.
Im going with being upgraded earlier.

 

[buttox]

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Round 14-15 folks go full premo every year that I can remember.
It will be earlier this year with more trades available for sure.
Round 12 is only 2 weeks earlier that is not a stretch at all.
People who have wasted their trade boosts on frivolous round 2 trades are massively disadvantaging themselves.

 

[Veer Right]

100%
Folks using them this week will wish they had not later in the year.
Only 4 rookies went over 72.
If you have none of Daicos, Hayes, Martin and Rachele you could still do 2 trades each week and get them all.

I don't understand the logic of not using the trades pre round three. I think the whole point from where i sit is to get the team looking as good as can be and having the rookies and bench right before the price increase. After that is the time to sit back for a while. I am not complaing tho and am happy some individuals are not taking advantage of this period.

 

[MacStradbroke]

Round 14-15 folks go full premo every year that I can remember.
It will be earlier this year with more trades available for sure.
Round 12 is only 2 weeks earlier that is not a stretch at all.
People who have wasted their trade boosts on frivolous round 2 trades are massively disadvantaging themselves.

Had Daniher all year last year so I’m looking at being full premo about March next year at that same rate.

There’s premo and then there’s premo I suppose. Having a complete team to rival the top teams by the byes is some achievement, in any given year. One I’m yet to ever achieve.

 

[buttox]

I don't understand the logic of not using the trades pre round three. I think the whole point from where i sit is to get the team looking as good as can be and having the rookies and bench right before the price increase. After that is the time to sit back for a while. I am not complaing tho and am happy some individuals are not taking advantage of this period.

Nuffies can take it to a new level this year.
15 trades gone by round 5.
Folks will do it for certain.
How bad would your team have to be to need more than 4 trades in the first 2 rounds?
Just because you can use 6 now does not mean you should.
Patience is needed this year.
Folks are shuffling deck chairs on the titanic in here at the moment.
Hey look I did three trades and have the same number of premos.
sigh.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Round 14-15 folks go full premo every year that I can remember.
It will be earlier this year with more trades available for sure.
Round 12 is only 2 weeks earlier that is not a stretch at all.
People who have wasted their trade boosts on frivolous round 2 trades are massively disadvantaging themselves.

It also comes down to the right rookies on the bubble at the right time.

 

[buttox]

Had Daniher all year last year so I’m looking at being full premo about March next year at that same rate.

There’s premo and then there’s premo I suppose. Having a complete team to rival the top teams by the byes is some achievement, in any given year. One I’m yet to ever achieve.

OK.
rounds 7,8,9,10,11 we use trade boosts.
15 trades used and lets say 7 upgrades done.
You have got rookies that are playing earlier in the year which usually have better JS.
You have round 12 trades the following week for another 3 trades and an 8-9th upgrade.
This has you complete before round 12 starts.
That has most teams complete easily.
Last year between rounds 7-11 we had 10 trades = 4-5 upgrades.
Hence us completing our teams a week or 2 later.
The best teams will be upgraded before the byes easily.

 

[T4P]

Nuffies can take it to a new level this year.
15 trades gone by round 5.
Folks will do it for certain.
How bad would your team have to be to need more than 4 trades in the first 2 rounds?
Just because you can use 6 now does not mean you should.
Patience is needed this year.
Folks are shuffling deck chairs on the titanic in here at the moment.
Hey look I did three trades and have the same number of premos.
sigh.

I think there's an argument for making more trades now to increase optionality for upgrading to mid-pricers who may become premos - I have a tentative hypothesis that the lack of rookies this year is somewhat being offset by overperforming mid-pricers

 

[buttox]

It also comes down to the right rookies on the bubble at the right time.

Less so this year once upgrade season kicks in.
We can get 2 rookies and still do an upgrade.

 

[MacStradbroke]

OK.
rounds 7,8,9,10,11 we use trade boosts.
15 trades used and lets say 7 upgrades done.
You have got rookies that are playing earlier in the year which usually have better JS.
You have round 12 trades the following week for another 3 trades and an 8-9th upgrade.
This has you complete before round 12 starts.
That has most teams complete easily.
Last year between rounds 7-11 we had 10 trades = 4-5 upgrades.
Hence us completing our teams a week or 2 later.
The best teams will be upgraded before the byes easily.

Most starting Whitfield…there’s one down, if not this week probably next. Too easy to just count em now for the next three months.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Less so this year once upgrade season kicks in.
We can get 2 rookies and still do an upgrade.

What i'm saying is the current rookies on our benches may not be enough to upgrade to full premo so you need that second lot of rookies that are going to be juicy by round 12 to make up the difference.

 

[buttox]

Most starting Whitfield…there’s one down, if not this week probably next. Too easy to just count em now for the next three months.

The Mrs team has 15keeper + cogs.
That is 7 upgrades needed. (assuming cogs isnt a keeper.)
When I can get 8-9 upgrades done before the byes.
Those numbers leave plenty of room for injury trades and sideways action.
It will be earlier this year for the top teams because it can be.
Some folks will nail it and get a massive leg up.

 

[Pocket Aces]

OK.
rounds 7,8,9,10,11 we use trade boosts.
15 trades used and lets say 7 upgrades done.
You have got rookies that are playing earlier in the year which usually have better JS.
You have round 12 trades the following week for another 3 trades and an 8-9th upgrade.
This has you complete before round 12 starts.
That has most teams complete easily.
Last year between rounds 7-11 we had 10 trades = 4-5 upgrades.
Hence us completing our teams a week or 2 later.
The best teams will be upgraded before the byes easily.

You would be including Cogs/Hewett/Rowell/Cripps types to be included for it to be complete and also heavily dependent on enough good downgrade options to be available before the byes for it to work as you will need these downgrades playing through the byes. I think it will play out as using 4 pre byes and 1 during the byes somewhere. 9 viable downgrades in 6 weeks doesnt really happen that much in the middle of the year so you would have to be happy with bringing in a non player or one with poor JS to facilitate the 9 upgrades in 6 weeks which could compromise scoring during the byes making it bit of a balancing act.

 

[Veer Right]

Nuffies can take it to a new level this year.
15 trades gone by round 5.
Folks will do it for certain.
How bad would your team have to be to need more than 4 trades in the first 2 rounds?
Just because you can use 6 now does not mean you should.
Patience is needed this year.
Folks are shuffling deck chairs on the titanic in here at the moment.
Hey look I did three trades and have the same number of premos.
sigh.

I plan to use all six (yep and the boosters) even if not entirely needed to get the team as good as can be. I see some strong reasons as well,

Mcinerney - Looked good in his AAMI game and then when the real football begun, his role was a wing interceptor/link up? and his teammates were not using him. Worth a punt i thought but nah. Blakey had a better role then him.

Lipinski - A few were happy to rubbish him but unlike at the bulldogs he will get his midfield time and voila.

Steele - Looked ordinary in the preseason and game one. Good for him if he goes 150 this week but...

Petracca - Easily the best player of the round, a level above. Is this the year he explodes? If he was a horse, i would be going balls to the wall on his next start.

Crisp - I see lots saying hold but the whole reason i took him was midfield time. I see no reason why the pies even need him in the midfield right now.

Then a couple of rookies to perfect...

 

[Pocket Aces]

I plan to use all six (yep and the boosters) even if not entirely needed to get the team as good as can be. I see some strong reasons as well,

Mcinerney - Looked good in his AAMI game and then when the real football begun, his role was a wing interceptor/link up? and his teammates were not using him. Worth a punt i thought but nah. Blakey had a better role then him.

Lipinski - A few were happy to rubbish him but unlike at the bulldogs he will get his midfield time and voila.

Steele - Looked ordinary in the preseason and game one. Good for him if he goes 150 this week but...

Petracca - Easily the best player of the round, a level above. Is this the year he explodes? If he was a horse, i would be going balls to the wall on his next start.

Crisp - I see lots saying hold but the whole reason i took him was midfield time. I see no reason why the pies even need him in the midfield right now.

Then a couple of rookies to perfect...

You will be 3 or 4 trades behind other teams with the same structure as you began with. You either will not complete fully or have to take compromised injury replacements at the end of the year, last year people copped a donut for Stewart and were forced to take Shai Bolton for Martin for instance.

 

[buttox]

You would be including Cogs/Hewett/Rowell/Cripps types to be included for it to be complete and also heavily dependent on enough good downgrade options to be available before the byes for it to work as you will need these downgrades playing through the byes. I think it will play out as using 4 pre byes and 1 during the byes somewhere. 9 viable downgrades in 6 weeks doesnt really happen that much in the middle of the year so you would have to be happy with bringing in a non player or one with poor JS to facilitate the 9 upgrades in 6 weeks which could compromise scoring during the byes making it bit of a balancing act.

Im trying to stay away from the ''what is a keeper discussion.'' It never helps and is just a way for folks with shitter teams to slag of a complete team usually.
What you would usually expect a team to look like round 14-15 will happen round 12-13 this year because it can.
Better downgrade options always appear at the start of the year. We miss them every year and we will miss less of them this year due to trade boosts.
By the time the byes tick around we have 1-2 rookies on the bubble every year.
Never much more than that. All the better kids have had a run by then and are no good for downgrades.
Saving a trade boost for the byes will be a bit useless IMO. We will have less downgrade options than the few week prior.
Most times a rookie debuting in round 5 and on the bubble round 7 has more JS than a rookie debuting round 11 and being on the bubble round 13.

 

[hoddo]

100%
Folks using them this week will wish they had not later in the year.
Only 4 rookies went over 72.
If you have none of Daicos, Hayes, Martin and Rachele you could still do 2 trades each week and get them all.

Yes, on the one hand the most likely best weeks to use the 5 boosters are the first 2 rounds before price rises to ensure you have the right starting rookies and the 3 bye rounds. But just because there are 5 boosters it doesn't mean they all have to be used. Those trades are still going to be valuable later in the year and shouldn't be thrown away lightly.

 

[buttox]

Yes, on the one hand the most likely best weeks to use the 5 boosters are the first 2 rounds before price rises to ensure you have the right starting rookies and the 3 bye rounds. But just because there are 5 boosters it doesn't mean they all have to be used. Those trades are still going to be valuable later in the year and shouldn't be thrown away lightly.

As a bit of an exercise I went back and read last years trade threads from round 6-14.
Just to work out what number of rookies we had on the bubble and how much cash our starting rookies had made by then.
rounds 6 and 7 had more rookies available it seems but it is questionable if our starting rookies had enough value on them to get a decent downgrade.
Rounds 8 and 9 had less rookies and more cash on the starting rookies.
By rounds 10-14 the new rookies had dried up.
Judging the perfect spot to use a trade boost will be a big thing this year.

 

[hoddo]

I plan to use all six (yep and the boosters) even if not entirely needed to get the team as good as can be. I see some strong reasons as well,

Mcinerney - Looked good in his AAMI game and then when the real football begun, his role was a wing interceptor/link up? and his teammates were not using him. Worth a punt i thought but nah. Blakey had a better role then him.

Lipinski - A few were happy to rubbish him but unlike at the bulldogs he will get his midfield time and voila.

Steele - Looked ordinary in the preseason and game one. Good for him if he goes 150 this week but...

Petracca - Easily the best player of the round, a level above. Is this the year he explodes? If he was a horse, i would be going balls to the wall on his next start.

Crisp - I see lots saying hold but the whole reason i took him was midfield time. I see no reason why the pies even need him in the midfield right now.

Then a couple of rookies to perfect...

Pretty sure McInerney is injured and he didn't seem to be playing the role he did in the preseason, so you're probably justified in trading him.

Agree with you about Lipinski. I wanted him preseason but couldn't fit him in. Can't see who will stop him from being the Pies number 1 mid this season.

Also agree about Crisp. Certainly not playing the role he was expected to. Probably because Lipinski has it. A trade from Crisp to Lipinski to fund rookie corrections looks wise, but I'd wait a week to see if R2 confirms things.

I was never a Steele fan but he proved me very wrong last season. Was close to selecting him and if I had I'd be disappointed with his start but wouldn't be considering trading him out on the limited evidence so far.

Love Petracca but wouldn't be bringing him in to replace any of my mid premos. There's a kind of champion player who rises to great heights in important games, (like a GF or a GF replay), but tends to coast a bit through more ordinary games. It's early in his career yet, but to me the early signs are that Petracca may be that kind of player.

In summary, I'd suggest you pull the pin on McInerney, plan to go ahead with Crisp>Lipinski but wait a week for more info on that trade, and wait for much more info before even considering a sideways trade of Steele>Petracca.

 

[Pocket Aces]

Im trying to stay away from the ''what is a keeper discussion.'' It never helps and is just a way for folks with shitter teams to slag of a complete team usually.
What you would usually expect a team to look like round 14-15 will happen round 12-13 this year because it can.
Better downgrade options always appear at the start of the year. We miss them every year and we will miss less of them this year due to trade boosts.
By the time the byes tick around we have 1-2 rookies on the bubble every year.
Never much more than that. All the better kids have had a run by then and are no good for downgrades.
Saving a trade boost for the byes will be a bit useless IMO. We will have less downgrade options than the few week prior.
Most times a rookie debuting in round 5 and on the bubble round 7 has more JS than a rookie debuting round 11 and being on the bubble round 13.

Yes keeper is generally in the eyes of the beholder, yes you can go faster to get the end result but I think we may be disappointed by the mid season crop if last year is to go on.

From memory
RCD/Byrnes/Bramble/Newcombe/Bianco/CCJ/Poulter/Madden/Weightman/Murphy/Frederick/Waterman/Macrae/Briggs/Mansell/Jones

Only Bramble albeit too late, Poulter, Byrnes and Bianco to a certain extent really worked out. Weightman never made 150k and was too expensive from memory.

I think it can work but am not optimistic about getting 9 half decent rooks in 6 weeks.

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

I don't quite understand this positional change thing.
eg McGovern (F) plays down back for so many weeks he becomes dual pos (D/F),
If he stays down there for a few more weeks after that does he become def only?