List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread III

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: 2022 Draft Pick Order

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Pick Order

Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

When does Free Agency begin? How long does the Trade Period go for? Find out on AFL.com.au.

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[dus]

Jed can’t kick.

Nobody will want him.

Especially Clarko.

 

[marklovesbeer]

What a great gif, for multiple reasons.

 

[Pagans Paddock99]

Im coming around to this Liam Shiels

14

Liam Shiels

Age

33

Ht

184cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.2

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.9

5star

CL

3.4

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

1.9

4star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.8

5star

rookie recruitment.

Obviously he'd add alot of leadership and experience and drive on the training track. Do we expect him to play every game? Nah, but if his vfl form forces it, then yeh sure.

Funny how Shiels is apparently the hardest trainer on earth and a fantastic leader but was let go by just about the youngest and most inexperienced team in the league?





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[Hatchy1992]

Funny how Shiels is apparently the hardest trainer on earth and a fantastic leader but was let go by just about the youngest and most inexperienced team in the league?





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Except he also won a threepeat under Clarko. Funny that.

 

[Pagans Paddock99]

Except he also won a threepeat under Clarko. Funny that.

Not saying he isn’t going to be a good pick up in a development type role, just asking the question as to why Hawthorn wouldn’t want him around mentoring their kids?




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[Devington]

Not saying he isn’t going to be a good pick up in a development type role, just asking the question as to why Hawthorn wouldn’t want him around mentoring their kids?




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The standards he set might not be as important there as they would be here. Or maybe Hawthorn are the ones making a mistake. Maybe Clarko just wants a leader he already has a great relationship with and Shields fits the bill. Dunno.

 

[Hatchy1992]

Not saying he isn’t going to be a good pick up in a development type role, just asking the question as to why Hawthorn wouldn’t want him around mentoring their kids?




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I get what you're saying, but id trust Clarko. If he wants him around, then im backing him in.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Not saying he isn’t going to be a good pick up in a development type role, just asking the question as to why Hawthorn wouldn’t want him around mentoring their kids?




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He retired.

Like Hodge did a few years ago.

 

[Shermanator]

The standards he set might not be as important there as they would be here. Or maybe Hawthorn are the ones making a mistake. Maybe Clarko just wants a leader he already has a great relationship with and Shields fits the bill. Dunno.

Clarko has always been big on development, if Shiels comes to us then I reckon he will basically be an onfield coach - maybe targeted specifically for the VFL.

If that’s the case, then the kids in the two’s will thrive off his experience as he will be relaying pretty much everything Clarko has taught him over the journey and that can only be a good thing IMO.

 

[Smoocher]

That's one side of the argument, the other side is of course this…
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I'd argue that Jed offers us more on & off field than Shiels because with stats like that Liam isn't offering us anything on field.

If I have to watch Jed gather a clearance from a centre bounce with no opposition within 10 meters and then blindly kick to the deep pocket or flank hitting the defender on the chest I’ll spew up.

Called for his sacking 3 years ago.

As tough as nails with no poise or footy smarts.


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[Roo096]

Funny how Shiels is apparently the hardest trainer on earth and a fantastic leader but was let go by just about the youngest and most inexperienced team in the league?





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Was it a forced retirement??

 

[king of the road]

Not saying he isn’t going to be a good pick up in a development type role, just asking the question as to why Hawthorn wouldn’t want him around mentoring their kids?




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They have many other leaders in and around the club from their recent successful era. He’s not as critical in that regard there.

Whereas us…

 

[justroyal]

Funny how Shiels is apparently the hardest trainer on earth and a fantastic leader but was let go by just about the youngest and most inexperienced team in the league?





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Hmm if we didn’t do this to Harvey I’d agree 100%

 

[rickety]

Can you get the powerball numbers from them next time? I need to know which numbers to avoid.

Tbf I can give you the ones to avoid :-D

 

[Sillygit]

Believe it or not I don’t care just telling what I heard as I say a very good source.

I choose not to believe it.

 

[Psicosis]

Not saying he isn’t going to be a good pick up in a development type role, just asking the question as to why Hawthorn wouldn’t want him around mentoring their kids?




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Sam Mitchell thinks he won’t make the same mistakes North made, despite making the same mistakes North made.

 

[Shinboner1]

Sam Mitchell thinks he won’t make the same mistakes North made, despite making the same mistakes North made.

Probably helps when you actually have a coach vs a guy who leaves after 1 year in a hub.

 

[AnEmptyChair]

Rookie list just one mature player.
The rest should be under 22 players

nah

in a super shallow draft, i think the idea of rookieing as many Stocker/Stack/Shiels types as we can is a super solid plan.

Either get guys who can drive standards in a young group or give a second chance to talented players who are still young enough to develop.

 

[buttox]

nah

in a super shallow draft, i think the idea of rookieing as many Stocker/Stack/Shiels types as we can is a super solid plan.

Either get guys who can drive standards in a young group or give a second chance to talented players who are still young enough to develop.

Agreed. Kids ranked 60+ in this draft year won't help us at all in 2023. Senior bodies all the way.

 

[The Dougster]

nah

in a super shallow draft, i think the idea of rookieing as many Stocker/Stack/Shiels types as we can is a super solid plan.

Either get guys who can drive standards in a young group or give a second chance to talented players who are still young enough to develop.

I like the idea of getting Stack & Shiels. Bring J. Walker back as a rookie because of his versatility

 

[Mr Lloyd Christmas]

We should have taken Stengle.

 

[My Left Foote]

If I have to watch Jed gather a clearance from a centre bounce with no opposition within 10 meters and then blindly kick to the deep pocket or flank hitting the defender on the chest I’ll spew up.

Called for his sacking 3 years ago.

As tough as nails with no poise or footy smarts.


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The way things are looking I don’t think Jed will be making you spew up next year, of course we still have a few other players on our list that might.

 

[Shinboner1]

We should have taken Stengle.

he wouldnt have come.

 

[Mr Lloyd Christmas]

he wouldnt have come.

Why not?

 

[Shinboner1]

Why not?

because he wanted to go to a stable team with indigenous support.
Eddie betts at geelong was a big draw card for him to make the move.
Also there were 3-4 teams looking for his services, why would he come to the team that'd just got the wooden spoon?