List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread III

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: 2022 Draft Pick Order

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Pick Order

Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Themanbun]

Only a few weeks into it with Clarko and Viney involved.

They are well aware our list is on the verge of already being built. Highly doubt they're waiting 5+ years for this and next year's picks to come on.

 

[giantroo]

CLUBS TOLD TO EXPECT CAP LIFT​

THE AFL has told clubs to plan for a five per cent rise in player payments next year as they work through their salary estimates for 2023.

Clubs received a memo from the League last week with guidelines for them to assume a five per cent uplift from the total player payments figure this year.

It is a budgeting value rather than a locked in figure, which will come after Collective Bargaining Agreement is reached with the AFL Players' Association, and are considered notional to assist with clubs facilitating their TPP process.

The five per cent rise would see the total player payments sit at $14,215,943 per club and the additional services agreement money rise to $1,291,912. Across both of those, it would see a total value of nearly $740,000 added per club.

That would likely be chewed up relatively quickly as clubs have built-in contract clauses for certain players for TPP uplifts.

The AFLPA had waited until after the recent record-breaking broadcast deal had been signed before starting CBA talks for the next players deal. – Callum Twomey

 

[JGreezy]

So... Essendon?
Are we targeting Tsatas and Sheezel?

 

[Dan]

“won’t get it done without a quality player”

 

[RobZombie]

Best part of this trade is it doesn’t give us enough to overspend on a perennially injured plodder HBF. Viney & Rawlings know their stuff, staying out of the z park Zone on purpose.

 

[Mordecai]

Given Pick 1 would be Ashcroft, I'd argue it should be looked at this way.
We are getting the equivalent of a Pick 1 return for JHF, which is fair. This was never going to be a home run trade for us, but it is an acceptable reset

I think the screenshot isn't adding 3000 points for jhf

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Trade 43 & 59 to Bris for 36.

Then trade 36 & 40 back to Bris for 21.

 

[giantroo]

KANGAROO IN SUNS' MIX​

OUT-OF-CONTRACT North Melbourne midfielder Jed Anderson is a name on Gold Coast's radar.


The Suns are monitoring his situation and could look to add him as a delisted free agent next month, rather than during the trade period given his contract status.


The 28-year-old played 14 games for the Kangaroos in 2022 after missing most of the pre-season due to his reluctance to be vaccinated.


It is understood that the Suns' interest in the Northern Territorian is building as they look to help add depth to their midfield ahead of the 2023 season.


Anderson was coached by Gold Coast head of development Rhyce Shaw

Rhyce Shaw

Age

43

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

12.0

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

313.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

1.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

at Arden Street and has remained in contact with the former North Melbourne senior coach.


The NT Thunder product started his career at Hawthorn after being traded from Greater Western Sydney as a prelisted player, before moving to the Kangaroos after playing 10 games across three seasons.


Gold Coast list manager Craig Cameron has already completed trades for Ben Long and Tom Berry with Izak Rankine moving to Adelaide on Monday and Jack Bowes set to land at Geelong before the deadline on Wednesday night. – Josh Gabelich

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Oh God, now we're open to trading pick 3? Quit when you're behind Brady!

 

[Nalts]

We're gunna trade 3 for Clark and 9 aren't we. Will probably throw in a third rounder as well because we're such nice fellas. Spare me.

 

[gokangas]

So what would we expect for pick 3?

 

[Tas]

Listing to Brady I can see the logic in 2 and 3 being they rate 3 players evenly so we now get 2 of the 3 we rated at 1 so there is that.

But I still feel that we could have got something in the 19-20’s to use as well.

Oh well the Judarse Hore is gone so to is my Pick 1 jumper, consigned to the rubbish bin of life, at least the club got a donation for “free” out of me!!

It doesn't matter what we rate ffs. It matters what GWS rate and if it differs to us.

GWS put in 3, 12 and Collingwood's future 2nd for 1, 53, 57

The 53 and 57 offset Collingwood's 2nd round pick so GWS put in 3 and 12. 12 went to Port to give to Eagles for Rioli and pick 2.

We should have got 2 and future 1st from port as a minimum for JHF, that would have put a mild premium on a contracted pick 1 of his value. It wasn't a legitimate attempt by Port to put in market value.

Fate might make us come out okay or even better, but based on present day valuations it wasn't a great trade, we coughed up our premium from 1 to 3 to make the JHF trade tolerable.

 

[king rising]

Why would we look to trade pick 3 after going through that painstaking process of the ‘mega trade’?? This club man.

 

[spurs]

We’ll get our Cadman next year, I agree with Brad Johnston from Fox. It’s not ideal, but now we’ll get 2 gun Victorian players, and 2 gun players next year including our CHF. F&ck we are going to be awesome in 3 years.

 

[king rising]

Literally nothing good could come from trading pick 3.

 

[Themanbun]

So what would we expect for pick 3?

Probably bloody Rory Lobb or something

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Trade 43 & 59 to Bris for 36.

Then trade 36 & 40 back to Bris for 21.

Wouldn't be allowed to trade back 36 would we?

 

[Usayed Givashe]

I assume we have to pay the premium of moving from 5 to 2.

Which is fine... except they never ****ing had 5.

We provided parameters which were not met, then appeased our violators by offering up the difference ourselves to facilitate said violation all welll before the deadline, which could have created even more value.

Multiple failures IMO, especially around the use of time, hand and future landscape. why didn’t we wait for Richmond’s 2023 R1 to enter the equation?

We traded a contracted #1 pick for pick two alone.

That’s inexplicable.

No, WE used the ‘bounty’ to upgrade 8 to 2, we rollled over like half tonne momme. Port should have paid for this upgrade! FFS.

 

[The Nostradamus]

jed for fiorini

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

I don’t understand the argument we traded 2 first overall picks for picks 2 & 3.

A. Happily trade that Judas prick from our club, he is a selfish prima donna that never wanted to be here. And,

B. who can say for certain that the players we take at 2 and 3 dont become 300+ gamers/ premiership players/ Brownlow medalist or all Australians for us??

If anything (IMO) we have just evenly spread greater talent over the squad.

I understand the disappointment, but it is in no way possible to call this a failure for at least 3-5 years.

The 5 year plan you say?

 

[Twinkletoes]

They are well aware our list is on the verge of already being built. Highly doubt they're waiting 5+ years for this and next year's picks to come on.

There’s every chance they feel we have a ways to go in some areas and the new draft hand helps us get there quicker.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

This doesn’t sound like we want to trade out of the top.

 

[gokangas]

Rumour is 3 for Clark and 9.

 

[DunderHead]

Surely he can’t trade 3 given that he said we really rate the top 3

 

[The Nostradamus]

Rumour is 3 for Clark and 9.

that is so dumb