Game Day 2022 Trade Period Match Thread

[Snuffaluphagus]

Thanks for making this an awesome trade period peeps. Will be locking this thread later tonight

 

[Madas]

Can you smoke weed freely in Thailand now like Amsterdam?

Cannabis shops everywhere
Is 30% THC enough to get you stoned ? that’s what they advertise

 

[Steinfreo]

Why does LJ going to the scum and them still having a top 10 pick. feel like the most dockery outcome.

 

[Ge3ks]

Is 30% THC enough to get you stoned ? that’s what they advertise

 

[Arkhitect]

So it's a PR exercise but neither Melbourne or WC know that he has committed to coming to us? Very cunning.

I'm confused?

Of course Melbourne know he's coming to Freo, as do West Coast. All the journos with decent sources are also saying the same thing.

Melbourne don't want to be seen willingly accepting an offer that they have publicly stated is not sufficient in their eyes. Their fans and the Melbourne media will tear them to pieces. But they know internally they will have to accept it whether they like it or not unless they're prepared to get nothing for him by sending him to the PSD. Again, that's obviously not happening.

Jackson's trying to do the right thing for Melbourne by not nominating Freo publicly and making it seem that there's a bidding war going on, when in reality everyone knows there isn't one as West Coast have never seriously been in the race.

Freo is letting this play out as it lets Melbourne save face.

By virtue of Jackson withholding the public nomination of his preferred destination (us), this is all just a PR exercise. It's not explicit between the involved parties, but said parties know the game and know how it will play out.

 

[Purple Jesus]

Can you smoke weed freely in Thailand now like Amsterdam?

CBD yes, THC I don't think so.

 

[King Huskii]

I'm confused?

Of course Melbourne know he's coming to Freo, as do West Coast. All the journos with decent sources are also saying the same thing.

Melbourne don't want to be seen willingly accepting an offer that they have publicly stated is not sufficient in their eyes. Their fans and the Melbourne media will tear them to pieces. But they know internally they will have to accept it whether they like it or not unless they're prepared to get nothing for him by sending him to the PSD. Again, that's obviously not happening.

Jackson's trying to do the right thing for Melbourne by not nominating Freo publicly and making it seem that there's a bidding war going on, when in reality everyone knows there isn't one as West Coast have never seriously been in the race.

Freo is letting this play out as it lets Melbourne save face.

By virtue of Jackson withholding the public nomination of his preferred destination (us), this is all just a PR exercise. It's not explicit between the involved parties, but said parties know the game and know how it will play out.

I tend to agree with this.

It must be frustrating for Melbourne when the Vic centric and often pro North Melbourne media are saying Freo aren't offering enough and Jackson is worth more.

It will look like Melbourne will end up buckling when they have not much of a choice but to accept Freos 1st and future first.

 

[MadDocker]

CBD yes, THC I don't think so.

The new reality for tourists returning to Thailand

It was once known for its zero tolerance policy. Now it has some of the most lax cannabis laws in the world.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Cannabis shops everywhere
Is 30% THC enough to get you stoned ? that’s what they advertise

30%? - Lol yes it will mate go easy that is strong s**t!

 

[theGav56]

For as much crap as they spout on Continental Tyres AFL Trade Radio for Rheem hot water (install a Rheem), one of the numpties did make a good point. If you were an interstate club (particularly GWS or GC) why would you bother drafting a player from down Geelong way when Geelong will come knocking after a couple of years if they are any good. You would be better off taking one of the metro boys. While it isn't necessarily the case for us and hasn't been for the country boys in particular, you can see how interstate clubs might be scared of taking Geelong Falcons players.

Would be worth analysing.

Serong, Darcy and Meek also have links to Geelong.

I think it shows what we should be doing. Like Geelong we have a regional identity. For some there will be a homing instinct as we are seeing with Jackson and have previously seen with Bell, MacPharlin, Wilson and others. We can work that in our favour. Chapman may have slid a little due to his family.

All clubs need to assess a potential draftee in terms of their capacity to stay long term. I'm sure that's happening.

 

[theGav56]

I'm confused?

Of course Melbourne know he's coming to Freo, as do West Coast. All the journos with decent sources are also saying the same thing.

Melbourne don't want to be seen willingly accepting an offer that they have publicly stated is not sufficient in their eyes. Their fans and the Melbourne media will tear them to pieces. But they know internally they will have to accept it whether they like it or not unless they're prepared to get nothing for him by sending him to the PSD. Again, that's obviously not happening.

Jackson's trying to do the right thing for Melbourne by not nominating Freo publicly and making it seem that there's a bidding war going on, when in reality everyone knows there isn't one as West Coast have never seriously been in the race.

Freo is letting this play out as it lets Melbourne save face.

By virtue of Jackson withholding the public nomination of his preferred destination (us), this is all just a PR exercise. It's not explicit between the involved parties, but said parties know the game and know how it will play out.

I think Melbourne are genuinely trying to increase their side of the trade. They may be hoping we trade Lobb first, which would put enormous pressure on us to replace him as well as giving us some additional trade currency.

We may be waiting for them to do the Grundy deal first for similar reasons.

 

[Cobbler]

Yeah I think my point is more relevant to the clubs on the fringes of the game for various reasons - us and eagles for being located in WA, the Adelaide clubs (though it’s a lot closer to vic which does help them a bit), gws and the suns for having no history or attractiveness or crowds.
It’s less of an Issue for the geelongs and Richmond’s of the world.
For example, if Cadman goes to GWS and is a gun, there’s a strong chance that he plays for a big vic club in future at some stage. Not the saints or bulldogs or north - one of the powerhouse clubs.
But there’s zero chances he ever plays for freo.
We can only get elite key forwards if they are from WA. Kennedy at WCE is a good example.
The only exception is when a high profile elite key forward wants to leave the Vic fishbowl. But in that instance, he’s not going to Adelaide or Perth. Instead it’s Daniher to Brisbane, or Buddy to Sydney type deals that are done. That’s purely to get these guys out of the microscope. A rare enough occurrence really.
Players like Tom lynch, Ben king, Harry Mackay (if he decided to move ever), Jeremy cameron , Charlie Curnow, etc etc.
we are never in contention for those guys. Ever.
It’s an inherent advantage the big vic clubs have over us all the time.
Few WA key forwards become truly elite in the comp. I’m not sure if Buddy ever seriously considered coming back to WA after 2004, he was one.
There is lots of talk about Logan mcD, JVR, Georgiades etc etc but they are all just potential right now. None are elite or anywhere near it yet.
I suppose the point is the options for us to trade in elite talent are about 30% of what’s available to big vic clubs and so when a talent line Jackson wants to come to freo (a very rare occurrence), you just have to make it work and get him in.
It could be 15 years before a talent of similar level nominated freo in a trade again.
We are not Geelong or Collingwood.

Yeah agree with most of that. A genuine young gun would want to play in front of big crowds so, yes, the big VIC clubs can lure those players.

I do think Optus crowds are legit decent. But there’s a tier with the AFL. We poach from Gold Coast and GWS the same way teams above us poach from others.

It’s only the rejects that leave big vic clubs. Or as you say, homesick players from out of Vic.

Taking my Freo hat off. If I entered the draft I’d pray that I went to a big vic team or my home state fave side. Everything else would be a disappointment.

 

[theGav56]

Yeah agree with most of that. A genuine young gun would want to play in front of big crowds so, yes, the big VIC clubs can lure those players.

I do think Optus crowds are legit decent. But there’s a tier with the AFL. We poach from Gold Coast and GWS the same way teams above us poach from others.

It’s only the rejects that leave big vic clubs. Or as you say, homesick players from out of Vic.

Taking my Freo hat off. If I entered the draft I’d pray that I went to a big vic team or my home state fave side. Everything else would be a disappointment.

I'd be surprised if the home state fave side thing continues as a major pull after a player is into his career. A player wants to come back to their home state. But for us in a 2 team town it becomes a bit more significant.

Wilson would only come back to play with us, but Jackson I'm not so sure.

 

[MadDocker]

If we land Jackson, we've got a good developing tall. If we dont, we have a good draft hand.

 

[pK75]

I'd be surprised if the home state fave side thing continues as a major pull after a player is into his career. A player wants to come back to their home state. But for us in a 2 team town it becomes a bit more significant.

Wilson would only come back to play with us, but Jackson I'm not so sure.

Jackson only wants to play for us.

 

[pK75]

I think Melbourne are genuinely trying to increase their side of the trade. They may be hoping we trade Lobb first, which would put enormous pressure on us to replace him as well as giving us some additional trade currency.

We may be waiting for them to do the Grundy deal first for similar reasons.

I think we’re waiting for the Bedford trade to see if Melbourne gets a pick to send back to us, if not it’s 13 and NM PP2 straight swap for Jackson

 

[Goobz]

Would he be more likely now the B&F is done to come out and nominate ?

JVR is more of a need for us than Jackson in my opinion!
But hey if Melbourne want more for Jackson well chuck in JVR and lets talk

 

[Dockeroo]

JVR is more of a need for us than Jackson in my opinion!
But hey if Melbourne want more for Jackson well chuck in JVR and lets talk

JVR is completely unproven. Like, to the point where he’s never even played a game of AFL footy.
Shouldnt even be in the same sentence as jackson who is very much projecting as a genuine elite tall, with a RS win already under his belt and 50 games where he has showed serious class at times.
I’m not opposed to JVR but it won’t happen this year anyway. The price would be radically different to jackson though. He’d cost something like pick 20 or thereabouts and be on a salary of $150k plus match fees. That’s all his short career so far has warranted. Not for sale anyway by the dees.

 

[Taylor]

We might be able to get JVR when we trade Lobb and a future second to Melbourne next season

 

[malpaso]

JVR is more of a need for us than Jackson in my opinion!
But hey if Melbourne want more for Jackson well chuck in JVR and lets talk

No JVR is not more of a need than Jackson. Treacy and Amiss are ahead of JVR. JVR offers nothing in the ruck as Lobb will be gone. Cmon Man.

 

[Dockeroo]

We might be able to get JVR when we trade Lobb and a future second to Melbourne next season

Has JVR signed an extension yet?? Warning signs there for the Dees if he hasn’t..

 

[Taylor]

Has JVR signed an extension yet?? Warning signs there for the Dees if he hasn’t..

I wonder if Melbourne will still get a free pass for players leaving if Pickett and JVR both request a trade away to freo out of contract end of next year

 

[Piggy Smalls]

I wonder if Melbourne will still get a free pass for players leaving if Pickett and JVR both request a trade away to freo out of contract end of next year

Does Pickett want to come to Freo?

 

[TheLastCall]

I think Melbourne are genuinely trying to increase their side of the trade. They may be hoping we trade Lobb first, which would put enormous pressure on us to replace him as well as giving us some additional trade currency.

We may be waiting for them to do the Grundy deal first for similar reasons.

Collingwood are waiting for the Jackson deal to get more.
I think the deal for Jackson is done, but holding out so Mel don’t have to pay more for Grundy.

 

[Madas]

30%? - Lol yes it will mate go easy that is strong s**t!

Don’t worry , 25 years ago I probably would have , but those days are long gone

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Don’t worry , 25 years ago I probably would have , but those days are long gone

Lol I don’t condone or condemn either way mate but I thought I better let you know what you were potentially getting yourself into!