List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Period

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2022 AFL Trade Period

All About Carlton

Current draft picks: 10, 29, 49, 66
List changes:
Out: Hayes, McDonald, Newnes, Parks, Stocker, Williamson, (Jones), Setterfield
In: Blake Acres
Uncontracted: 1 - Ed Curnow - new deal pending (Fogarty confirmed contracted for 2023)
List status: Senior - 33 (inc. Owies); Rookie - 5; Cat-B Rookie - 1; Free spots - 4 (plus one Cat-B)

Key Dates

Draft Nominations: OPEN
Mon 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open
Mon 21-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close

The Draft:
Mon 28-Nov
7.10pm: National Draft Round One; Bidding on F/S, Academy & NGA
Tue 29-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion
10pm - 11.00pm: Rookie Upgrade period
10pm - 11.00pm: Delisted Free Agency Period 3
Wed 30-Nov
3pm: Pre-season Draft
3.20pm: Rookie Draft
Thu 1-Dec
by 4pm: Final Club list lodgment

Delisted Free Agency Periods 1 & 2: CLOSED
Thu 03-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences
Wed 09-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes
Fri 11-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences
Tue 15-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 03-Oct 9am: Trade Period commences – Players & Selections
Wed 12-Oct 7.30pm: Trade Period closes – player trades
Tue 15-Nov 5.00pm: Trade Period closes – selections only

RFA and UFA: CLOSED
Fri 30-Sep 9am: Restricted Free Agency (RFA) and Unrestricted Free Agency (UFA) Period commences
Fri 07-Oct 5pm: Close of Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.
Mon 10-Oct 5pm: Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends
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Completed Trades:

Fri 30-Sep:
1 Karl Amon (PA) to Hawthorn (UFA) Port Adelaide receive 2nd round compensation pick (currently Pick 27).
Mon 3-Oct:
2 Bobby Hill (GWS) to Collingwood GWS receive Pies' future 2nd round pick. Also swap of 3rd round picks - Pies get pick GWS pick 41, for their pick 44.
3 Tim Taranto (GWS) to Richmond GWS receive Tigers 1st round pick, and Tigers 2nd round pick from NM (currently picks 12 and 19).
4 Jayden Hunt (Mel) to West Coast (UFA) Melbourne receive 3rd round compensation pick (currently Pick 54).
Tue 4-Oct:
5 Blake Acres (Freo) to CARLTON Fremantle receive Carlton's future 3rd round pick.
6 Daniel McStay (Bris) to Collingwood (RFA) Brisbane receive 2nd round compensation pick (currently Pick 35).
7 Liam Jones (CARLTON) to Western Bulldogs (UFA) CARLTON receive 3rd round compensation pick (currently Pick 49).
8 Pick trade: Melbourne picks 33 (R2), 43 (R3), 53 (R3) to Port Adelaide for pick 27 (R2)
Wed 5-Oct:
9 Zaine Cordy (WBU) to St Kilda (UFA) No compensation for Western Bulldogs (due to taking UFA Liam Jones)
10 Griffin Logue and Darcy Tucker (Freo) to North Melbourne. Fremantle receive Future 2nd and 3rd picks (AFL assistance package for NM). Additionally, NM gains Freo's Future 3rd pick in exchange for North's future 4th pick.
11 Pick trade: GWS trade pick their second round pick (currently 21) and future Rd 2 pick to Brisbane for their 1st round pick (currently 15)
12 Ben Long (StK) to Gold Coast St Kilda receive 2nd round pick (currently 32), with the Saints' future 4th round pick going back to the Suns.
13 Tom Berry (Bris) to Gold Coast Brisbane receive 2 x Rd 2 picks (currently 25 and 36), and a 3rd rd pick (56). Suns get Brisbane's 3rd rd (46) and GWS future 2nd round pick.
Thu 6-Oct:
14 Josh Corbett (GCS) to Fremantle Gold Coast receive Freo's future round 4 selection.
Fri 7-Oct:
15 Tanner Bruhn (GWS) to Geelong GWS receive Geelong's first round pick (Currently pick 18)
16 Pick trade: Geelong Rd 2 pick (currently 38), two x Rd 3 picks (48, 55), and future 2nd and 4th picks to Brisbane for their Rd 2 pick (25).
Mon 10-Oct:
17 Toby Bedford (Mel) to GWS. Melbourne receive GWS Rd 3 pick (tied to Haw - currently 44).
18 Luke Jackson (Mel) to Fremantle . Melbourne receive Fremantle's 1st round pick (currently 13) and future 1st and 2nd round picks. Fremantle also receive Melbourne's Rd 3 pick (tied to Haw - currently 44), and 4th round pick (tied to StK - 67).
19 Will Setterfield (CARLTON) to Essendon. Carlton receive Essendon's future 4th round pick. Essendon also receive Carlton's 4th rd pick (currently 68).
20 Izak Rankine (GCS) to Adelaide. Suns gain Adelaide's 1st rd pick (currently 5) and future 3rd and 4th picks. Adelaide also receive Suns' Rd 3 pick (tied to PA - currently 46) and future 4th pick (tied to Freo).
21 "Mega deal"
North Melbourne:
Out - Pick 1, Jason Horne-Francis, Future 3rd (Freo)
In - Picks 2 (WCE), 3 (GWS), 40 (WCE), 43 (PA - from Ade), Future 1st (PA)
West Coast:
Out - Pick 2, 40, Junior Rioli
In - Pick 8 (PA), 12 (GWS from Rich), Future 2nd (PA), Future 3rd (PA)
Port Adelaide:
Out - Pick 8, 43 (Ade), 53 (Mel), 57 (Syd), Future 1st, Future 2nd, Future 3rd
In - Jason Horne-Francis, Junior Rioli, Future 2nd (GWS tied to Col), Future 3rd (NM tied to Freo)
GWS:
Out - Pick 3, 12 (from Rich), Future 2nd (Col)
In - Pick 1, 53 (PA from Mel), 57 (PA from Syd)
Tue 11-Oct:
22 Jack Gunston (Haw) to Brisbane. Hawthorn receive Rd 3 pick from Brisbane (currently 48 - tied to Carlton) and Brisbane's future 4th rd pick.
23 Brodie Grundy (Col) to Melbourne. Collingwood receive Melbourne's Rd 2 pick (currently 27) in exchange.
24 Billy Frampton (Ade) to Collingwood. Adelaide receive Collingwood's future 3rd round pick.
25 Jack Bowes (GCS) to Geelong. Geelong also receive Gold Coast's pick 7. Gold Coast receive Geelong's future 3rd round pick.
26 Jacob Hopper (GWS) to Richmond. GWS receive Richmond's Rd 2 pick (currently 31) and future 1st round pick. Richmond also receive GWS 3rd rd pick (tied to Melb, currently 53), and GWS 4th rd pick (tied to Adelaide, currently 63).
Wed 12-Oct:
27 Aaron Francis (Ess) to Sydney. Sydney also receive Essendon's pick 42. Essendon receive Sydney's pick 37 and future 4th Rd pick.
28 Sam Weideman (Mel) to Essendon. Melbourne receive Essendon's pick 37. Essendon also receive Melbourne's picks 54 and 72.
29 Josh Schache (WBU) to Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive Melbourne's future 4th round pick.
30 Lachie Hunter (WBU) to Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive Melbourne's future 3rd round pick.
31 Josh Dunkley (WBU) to Brisbane. Western Bulldogs receive pick 21 along with Brisbane's future 1st and 2nd round picks, and Geelong's future 4th. Brisbane also receive the Bulldog's future 3rd and a future 3rd tied to Melbourne.
32 Ollie Henry (Coll) to Geelong. Cooper Stephens (Gee) to Hawthorn. Tom Mitchell (Haw) to Collingwood. Collingwood also receive pick 25 from Geelong. Hawthorn receive picks 41 and 50 from Collingwood.
33 Rory Lobb (Freo) to Western Bulldogs. Fremantle receive pick 30 and Western Bulldog's future 2nd round pick.
34 Jaeger O'Meara (Haw) to Fremantle. Lloyd Meek (Fre) to Hawthorn. Fremantle receive Hawthorn's future 4th round pick. Hawthorn receive Western Bulldog's future 2nd round pick.

Post Trade-week Trades (Selections only):
35 Oct 21: Pick Trade: The Brisbane Lions trade its Round Three Selection (56) to the Adelaide Crows for its Future Round Four Selection (tied to Fremantle)
36 Oct 21: Pick Trade: North Melbourne trade its Round Four Selection (59) and Future Round Two Selection to the Adelaide Crows for its Round Two Selection (23).
37 Nov 15: Pick Trade: North Melbourne trades round three selection (43) to Fremantle for Fremantle's future round four selection (tied to Hawthorn).

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Missed Out on trades:
Matt Crouch (Ade) - Adelaide looking to find him a new home.
James Rowe (Ade) - Possible move to Western Bulldogs.
Fischer McAsey (Ade) - Possible move to Carlton. Carlton apparently no longer interested.
Paddy Dow (Car) - Possible move to NM, Gee.
Caleb Poulter (Col) - Possible move to Gold Coast.
Nick Bryan (Ess) - Possible move, perhaps to Saints.
Brayden Ham (Ess) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
Liam Henry (Freo) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere, but is contracted.
Jeremy Sharp (GCS) - Possible move to Freo
Brayden Fiorini (GCS) - Possible move to Collingwood
Esava Ratugolea (Gee) - Several clubs interested. Geelong open to move. Perhaps GWS.
Lachie Whitfield (GWS) - GWS open to discussion
Nick Haynes (GWS) - GWS open to discussion
Kozzy Pickett (Mel) - Possible move to Port Adelaide. Melbourne say not happening.
Adam Tomlinson (Mel) - Melbourne open to move.
James Harmes (Mel) - Possible move to Essendon (and others). Melbourne say not happening.
Tarryn Thomas (NM) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere, possibly GCS.
Martin Frederick (PA) - Possible move to WCE
Mitch Georgiades (PA) - Possible move to WCE
Sam Hayes (PA) - Contracted, but Port may be open to offers elsewhere.
Ivan Soldo (Rich) - Possible move to GWS.
Jack Graham (Rich) - Likely now to stay at Richmond after exploring PA.
Riley Collier-Dawkins (Rich) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
Jack Bytel (StK) - Essendon interested.
Hunter Clark (StK) - Possible move to NM.
Brad Hill (StK) - Possible move to NM.
Lewis Mellican (Syd) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
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DFA and Retiree moves
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (ex-Ess) - looking to return from retirement, possibly to Freo, as SSP
Conor McKenna (ex-Ess) - looking to return from retirement, possibly to Gee in rookie draft
Liam Stocker (ex-Car) - Possible DFA to Essendon
Ciaran Byrne (ex-Car) - Possible return to Carlton as Cat-B Rookie - 5-Oct: Not happening, stays in Ireland
Francis Evans (ex-Gee) - Possible DFA to Port Adelaide
Quinton Narkle (ex-Gee) - DFA, several clubs interested
Kyle Hartigan (ex-Haw) - Possible DFA to St Kilda
Tom Phillips (ex-Haw) - Possible DFA to Essendon
Dan Hanneberry (ex-StK) - NM interested in bringing him out of retirement
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Draft Order and selection summary


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Indicative Draft Order

List Changes by Club
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BrisbaneCFC said:
Hasnt come anywhere close to earning or deserving that money yet.
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I will explain that I wasn’t saying to give TDK the $800k pa that Bowes is being paid. Only that if we did the trade for Bowes, we might not be able to afford TDK. I would just rather keep money aside in the cap for that extension.
 

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Arr0w said:
On current output, IMHO, TDK is worth 550K a year. Sign a 4 year deal and the likelihood is that would be unders if he continues to improve
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Glad you're not responsible for our contracts- $550k for what exactly? - he’s still developing and a still away off. I would be offering significantly less and throwing in a heap of differing performance bonus.
I’m not giving $550k to someone who hasn’t torn up a game and been dominate - 15th in bnf isnt $2.2m over 4yrs
 
Arr0w said:
On current output, IMHO, TDK is worth 550K a year. Sign a 4 year deal and the likelihood is that would be unders if he continues to improve
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On current output I'd argue he's maybe worth half that. Can certainly see it rising steeply though over the next year or so.
 
Aphrodite said:
No Way Do Not Want GIF
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Jack is enthusiastic.

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HarryFlashman said:
Glad you're not responsible for our contracts- $550k for what exactly? - he’s still developing and a still away off. I would be offering significantly less and throwing in a heap of differing performance bonus.
I’m not giving $550k to someone who hasn’t torn up a game and been dominate - 15th in bnf isnt $2.2m over 4yrs
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Ah the little jibe at start

The average wage with the new TV rights will be over 400K, don't think an average of 550K over 4 years is unreasonable, especially with the upside he has.


Jeremias said:
On current output I'd argue he's maybe worth half that. Can certainly see it rising steeply though over the next year or so.
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May seem overs initially, but perhaps viewed differently come the end

Contacts, especially for players with upside need to be reflected as such
 
Arr0w said:
Ah the little jibe at start

The average wage with the new TV rights will be over 400K, don't think an average of 550K over 4 years is unreasonable, especially with the upside he has.




May seem overs initially, but perhaps viewed differently come the end

Contacts, especially for players with upside need to be reflected as such
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Every player on the list should have upside- you can’t throw money at potential- you reward performance.
Ruckman are cheap until proven, then they are arguably the best paid in the comp.
 
HarryFlashman said:
Every player on the list should have upside- you can’t throw money at potential- you reward performance.
Ruckman are cheap until proven, then they are arguably the best paid in the comp.
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Not how contracts work. They are based on futures, not past or present
 

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Arr0w said:
On current output, IMHO, TDK is worth 550K a year. Sign a 4 year deal and the likelihood is that would be unders if he continues to improve
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That’s generous Arrow, any wonder were inert this trade period.
Toms impact on a game the occasional beautiful mark and support as 2nd ruck that’s a handsome salary. He certainly has potential but needs at least a few more seasons yet before we have any real yield.
Not sure where to play him either , he’s a giant utility perhaps?
 
Arr0w said:
Past? Please. If that was the case Jack Riewoldt would be on 600K next year
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Of course the past plays a big part- what about the present? Very quite on that, you made a call that’s a little out there, it’s ok mate, u don’t have to defend it to death, you’re just digging a deeper hole.
 
HarryFlashman said:
Of course the past plays a big part- what about the present? Very quite on that, you made a call that’s a little out there, it’s ok mate, u don’t have to defend it to death, you’re just digging a deeper hole.
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His current deal, which includes 2023, is the present. When you’re extending a contract it’s about the future. It’s not like he’s a casual employee on a rolling week-by-week pay cycle that fluctuates purely based on his performance. (Although his contract will obviously have kpi triggers/incentives).
 
HarryFlashman said:
Every player on the list should have upside- you can’t throw money at potential- you reward performance.
Ruckman are cheap until proven, then they are arguably the best paid in the comp.
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Not every player on the list has a upside.
As Arrow mentioned average wage is going to be close $400k soon.

TDK has a year to run on his contract, he has 12-18 months to hit his peak, despite some negativity on here he carried the load on his own for most of the season.
We would expect him to go to the next level in the next 1-2 years so $500-$550k is not far off the mark.

Geelong are very keen to attract him in the near future.
 
HarryFlashman said:
Of course the past plays a big part- what about the present? Very quite on that, you made a call that’s a little out there, it’s ok mate, u don’t have to defend it to death, you’re just digging a deeper hole.
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Future payments based on what a player is capable of achieving, in the future

A player at and or past his prime, won't get the same salary in the future, for what he "has" achieved

Need a shovel?
 
CJMB said:
His current deal, which includes 2023, is the present. When you’re extending a contract it’s about the future. It’s not like he’s a casual employee on a rolling week-by-week pay cycle that fluctuates purely based on his performance. (Although his contract will obviously have kpi triggers/incentives).
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Exactly, the past & the present helps to determine the contract. Arrow was saying future performance only
 
Arr0w said:
Future payments based on what a player is capable of achieving, in the future

A player at and or past his prime, won't get the same salary in the future, for what he "has" achieved

Need a shovel?
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Who’s saying the contract value doesn’t go down? - I never said that at all. I said past, present and future determines the contract- if you’re a gun on squllions & then stink it up or just age out, of course the value decreases.
I didn’t say anything about rise/decrease, just the mechanisms used to determine value - ie your past, present & future value to the club!
 
If Tarryn Thomas does want out id 100% be asking pure silk when he is on and would thrive under the environment we are creating
 

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