List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part I

[phantom13]

De goey probably just looks better because he was in a better team for most of his career. Gresh developed in one of the shittest teams in the comp until the last couple years. De goey was finals bound most of his career and played in a grand final quality side.

Could conversely argue that makes it harder to break into the team whereas Jade was given more games early on.

Jade is in a better team now and stats from just this season (Jades breakout year) are only marginally better than Jordans now.

Again, im not saying one or the other im saying how good would both be.

 

[The Punter]

I dont think they are as dissimilar as you might.

Aside from Baileys being legitimately illegal etc. If youre suggesting that Baileys mental health makes his issues lesser or more manageable id suggest there is alot more bubbling under the surface than just that.

No, I mean one of the two people named has an issue with drugs, and the other has been charged on more than one occasion with crimes against the person.

That's the difference.

 

[phantom13]

For me the same. Younger and the play style fits better.

No one is going to pick DeGoey in this scenario but the reality is one is actually attainable the other isnt and likely wont ever be.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Smith but hes about as close to untouchable as it gets. Jordy is an FA at seasons end.

Depends how badly the bulldogs fall off. We need to beat them so badly they fall off a cliff and de rail their season.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

No one is going to pick DeGoey in this scenario but the reality is one is actually attainable the other isnt and likely wont ever be.

Fair enough

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Could conversely argue that makes it harder to break into the team whereas Jade was given more games early on.

Jade is in a better team now and stats from just this season (Jades breakout year) are only marginally better than Jordans now.

Again, im not saying one or the other im saying how good would both be.

Yep I get you. Was just trying to stick up for Gresh a bit. He’s underrated by us and the media but he’s really good and has been for ages

 

[phantom13]

Yep I get you. Was just trying to stick up for Gresh a bit. He’s underrated by us and the media but he’s really good and has been for ages

Oh i rate Gresh, hes a jet (he butchers the footy a bit but hes genuinely a star and will almost certainly be our best player this year or next).

More than anything i was suprised by how similar their current career stats were, i assumed DeGoey would be a bit more ahead of him but either way a 22+ possy 1-1.5 goal a game HFF/Mid is a lovely player to have and if we got De Goey, wed have two.

 

[St Significant]

Arguments for and against De Goey equally compelling.

Just glad it's not me making the call.

Let's start by seeing what he looks like in red, white & black please Doc

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

So he comes to the saints, wins a BnF in a flag year, then wins a Norm as part of our drought breaking flag and youll sit in the corner hating it because you dont want him playing for us...

How did you feel about most of our list during the Schoolgirl scandal? If Milne toe poked a goal in 2010 would you have demanded to hand the cup back?

so with this I was in my early teens when milne started playing and he quickly became my favourite player, I don't think I've enjoyed watching any player as much as him. The milne scandal thing came after I'd already put all my support behind him. I basically just ignored his scandal.

I'm in my 30s now, I can make proper judgements. It's also harder if you love the player before they do fkd shit, because then you have to reconcile that. With degoey I can make the call before those complications.

I dunno about the school girl scandal. It's pretty cooked but also it wasn't a case of sexual assault, more just gross age gap similar to the stringer thing. Stringer is about 17 emotionally though so it kind of makes sense.

All I know is I don't want degoey, that's before taking into account the fact that he aint no sure thing, and would be the highest paid player on our list along with king.

 

[botts]

For me the same. Younger and the play style fits better.

The thing is. De goey will take hanners money and we get to keep all our draft picks. Everyone else will cost an arm and a leg with draft picks.

 

[phantom13]

so with this I was in my early teens when milne started playing and he quickly became my favourite player, I don't think I've enjoyed watching any player as much as him. The milne scandal thing came after I'd already put all my support behind him. I basically just ignored his scandal.

I'm in my 30s now, I can make proper judgements. It's also harder if you love the player before they do fkd s**t, because then you have to reconcile that. With degoey I can make the call before those complications.

I dunno about the school girl scandal. It's pretty cooked but also it wasn't a case of sexual assault, more just gross age gap similar to the stringer thing. Stringer is about 17 emotionally though so it kind of makes sense.

All I know is I don't want degoey, that's before taking into account the fact that he aint no sure thing, and would be the highest paid player on our list along with king.

Well as it stands neither of them were convicted, i dont say that as a defence necesarily just pointing out that he currently doesnt really have anything legally on his record.

On DeGoey (and ive said this a multitude of times) i only want him at the right price and that would NOT be him as our highest paid player (which i also realise means we almost certainly wont get him). Any offer to him has to be risk v reward and his risk is huge but he is a player that genuinely makes us better on field overnight. We clearly have a different position on the character requirement of footballers and thats fine.

 

[Diehard Saint]

The New York Times had an article yesterday about Australian English and the work by ANU to create an Australian English Dictionary.
Naturally they provided a few examples of Australian English for their readers.
This example, however, was sadly lacking.
Mores the pity, given that it would be incomprehensible to the average New Yorker.

Please, the Americans had a meltdown when the word "mates" first appeared on Wordle !!!

 

[pebblesofsand]

Well as it stands neither of them were convicted, i dont say that as a defence necesarily just pointing out that he currently doesnt really have anything legally on his record.

On DeGoey (and ive said this a multitude of times) i only want him at the right price and that would NOT be him as our highest paid player (which i also realise means we almost certainly wont get him). Any offer to him has to be risk v reward and his risk is huge but he is a player that genuinely makes us better on field overnight. We clearly have a different position on the character requirement of footballers and thats fine.

Doubt De Goey will be going anywhere now.

Can't see anyone offering him enough (without a huge a amount of strings attached) to make a shift from the Pies worth while any more.

Pies will be happy, they keep De Goey, don't have to pay overs unless he really really performs.

 

[Hayes4PM]

The New York Times had an article yesterday about Australian English and the work by ANU to create an Australian English Dictionary.
Naturally they provided a few examples of Australian English for their readers.
This example, however, was sadly lacking.
Mores the pity, given that it would be incomprehensible to the average New Yorker.

They should have just published this

 

[Diehard Saint]

In the end I reckon its a 99% certainty De Goey stays at the Pies.
They'd be really happy that they can now offer him less ( much like we saved money on the Carlisle deal) and there isn't a huge list of free agents moving to other clubs in the same state.

Honestly can't see it happening.

 

[Spider Eater]

Let's start by seeing what he looks like in red, white & black please Doc

I got this one... here ya go mate.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

They should have just published this

this never fails to make me laugh haha. "they really are a funny bunch of people... or should I say dickheads"

 

[Joffaboy]

The thing is. De goey will take hanners money and we get to keep all our draft picks. Everyone else will cost an arm and a leg with draft picks.

You think Hanners is on 900k a year for the next five years?

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

You think Hanners is on 900k a year for the next five years?

wasn't his deal extremely front ended anyways? People always act like he was on 900k the whole time but I'm pretty sure he was on way less the last couple years. + the pay cut

 

[The Punter]

De Goey suspended by Collingwood for the rest of the season.

EDIT - apparently not. Keep reading the thread before quoting this post.

 

[Sully111]

De Goey suspended by Collingwood for the rest of the season.

No he hasn't been

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

De Goey suspended by Collingwood for the rest of the season.

nope just fined 25000. the fine is suspended meaning if he ****s up he pays it if he doesn't he doesn't

 

[The Punter]

nope just fined 25000. the fine is suspended meaning if he *s up he pays it if he doesn't he doesn't

Yeah, journos got it wrong so I posted it wrong. My apologies.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Yeah, journos got it wrong so I posted it wrong. My apologies.

would have been a huge call haha only just past the halfway point of the season

 

[bergholt]

Players averaging 20 and a goal this year

Cripps 28.1 and 1.3
Gresham 24.5 and 1.2
Coniglio 24.2 and 1.0
Bontempelli 22.1 and 1.3
De Goey 21.5 and 1.0
Nic Martin 20.4 and 1.1

Grab Cogs and Jordy and have one of the most dynamic midfields in the comp?