List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Any thoughts on Jackson Hately?

Delisted from Adelaide, 191cm midfielder.

Like Luke Dunstan not someone we need to look at.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Oliver swap for Heeney would do both players well. I think Heeney needs a fresh start and Oliver would be an upgrade. Throw in a next year's second rounder to sweeten.

Dees get a forward / mid and we get a mid we badly need.

I'm sure this will be received well

We would need to give a first not a second to sweeten that at least

 

[mtooler]

2 firsts and Florent and we have a deal for Oliver <3

 

[LukeParkerno1]

2 firsts and Florent and we have a deal for Oliver <3

Don’t hate this suggestion actually

 

[the hypnotoad]

HSun further confirming the Joel Hamling trade, sounds like it's almost a done deal

Grundy - we will only offer 31 or 42

Also says Dow to St Kilda almost a lock as well

hamling would surely be a good get

 

[Bloods86]

Hamling in for nothing is a good move. Can come in and play a role for two years while we develop another key back. Win-win.

As long as we draft that KPD too. Still, 17 WAFL games (incl a finals series) and 4 in seniors this year, means he should be available most weeks.

We'd have, assuming full fitness:

TMac
Rampe
Melican

Hamling
Francis
Arnold (if extended)
Edwards
Draftee

I doubt there'll be a week where all are fit and firing, so you'd probably need to rotate 1 player around the ground in VFL, but that's possible with Francis, Edwards and a draftee like ZZ. It's only for a year, where we'd then likely cull one or two of Melican, Francis, Arnold, Edwards.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

HSun further confirming the Joel Hamling trade, sounds like it's almost a done deal

Grundy - we will only offer 31 or 42

Also says Dow to St Kilda almost a lock as well

Ehhhh i prefer we dont play silly games for Grundy.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

hamling would surely be a good get

Low cost and could be at worst a solid depth signing.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Ehhhh i prefer we dont play silly games for Grundy.

31 is more than fair don’t see how that’s playing silly games.

 

[KinderSmock]

It's a growing rumour but why would he leave Melbourne? His family lives in Victoria, his wife owns a business based in Melbourne, he appears happy.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

31 is more than fair don’t see how that’s playing silly games.

31 would be the bare minimum

42 is just being silly.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

31 would be the bare minimum

42 is just being silly.

More than what was traded last year. I think it will be something like

31+ F3 for Grundy +F4.

Basically 31 plus downgrade in the future next year to sweeten it.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

31 would be the bare minimum

42 is just being silly.

"There is a belief that given Schache was preferred to dual All-Australian Grundy in the Melbourne’s best 23, and the Demons need the dual All-Australian’s salary off their books, that their bargaining power is minimal.

A pick as low as No.31 or 42 is likely to get that [Grundy] deal done."

 

[caesar88]

Hamling would be a good get

 

[Wolfgang West]

hamling would surely be a good get

The Western Australian saying 2 hrs ago he has been offered an extension at Freo. Herald Sun saying he has asked to be traded to Sydney. If true He is an insurance policy for Melican's fitness nothing more.

 

[Ticky009]

It's a growing rumour but why would he leave Melbourne? His family lives in Victoria, his wife owns a business based in Melbourne, he appears happy.

Why would any put credence into a twitter account created this year? Until we get something from a verified media account we're treating it as rubbish.

 

[the hypnotoad]

The Western Australian saying 2 hrs ago he has been offered an extension at Freo. Herald Sun saying he has asked to be traded to Sydney. If true He is an insurance policy for Melican's fitness nothing more.

i always rated him but i haven't followed his recent progress
not sure i'd trust the herald sun either, but who knows ... seems the silly season has become the fckng stupid season

 

[LukeParkerno1]

The Western Australian saying 2 hrs ago he has been offered an extension at Freo. Herald Sun saying he has asked to be traded to Sydney. If true He is an insurance policy for Melican's fitness nothing more.

Yep he’d be better depth than Francis who would become a break glass type option back there

 

[Punts]

Dow to saints apparently

 

[Adnico26Parker]

The Western Australian saying 2 hrs ago he has been offered an extension at Freo. Herald Sun saying he has asked to be traded to Sydney. If true He is an insurance policy for Melican's fitness nothing more.

Freo offered him a one-year deal, but he wants security, and is willing to move. Heard our deal could be 2 years, with a trigger for a 3rd.

 

[Ticky009]

Here's the link to the Herald Sun article for those who know how access.

In the meantime here is the out takes:

• Uncontracted Fremantle defender Joel Hamling
  29

  Joel Hamling

  Age

  31

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  92kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  11.6

  3star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  5.0

  5star

  T

  1.4

  3star

  No current season stats available

  D

  11.8

  3star

  K

  7.6

  3star

  HB

  4.2

  4star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  1.0

  3star

  , who played in the Western Bulldogs’ 2016 premiership side, has attracted strong interest from the Swans.
• Swans can offer Hamling greater security and simply sign him as a free agent
• Carlton midfielder Paddy Dow
  15

  Paddy Dow

  Age

  25

  Ht

  184cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  14.1

  4star

  K

  7.0

  3star

  HB

  7.1

  4star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  2.6

  4star

  D

  7.0

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.0

  3star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  D

  12.4

  4star

  K

  5.8

  3star

  HB

  6.6

  4star

  M

  1.6

  2star

  T

  2.8

  5star

  CL

  2.6

  5star

  is also expected to sign with St Kilda despite reported interest from Sydney.

This makes 2 Free agents we are targeting. Jordon & Hamling

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-brodie-grundy-offer-joel-hamling-requests-trade-to-sydney/news-story/979f13e78db8ae0e6ddd04f42ecc4cb6

 

[Wolfgang West]

Dow to saints apparently

If there is any truth in the Oliver rumour we should go all out to get him if it can be done. Gulden & Blakey the only Players I would shut down a conversation on.

 

[Wolfgang West]

Thought Grundy would have nominated The Club by now. A little surprising.

 

[Punts]

Bit desperate trying to get hamling for 3 years

 

[RUNVS]

Bit desperate trying to get hamling for 3 years

Our Key Defensive stocks have made us a bit desperate. The cupboard is pretty bare.