List Mgmt. 2023 List Management and Trading

[WaynesWorld19]

Kaine Baldwin .....21 YO .....had 25 possessions yesterday, playing KPD

Word is, he's really settling into the KP role and was close to ESS's best player yesterday .....out of Contract

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Borlase was gassed after 3 quarters, but his fitness will improve with another preseason

Can Borlase, Keane, Murray, Michaelanney, Worrall, Doedee, Milera all all fit in the same side

I wonder why

 

[JimmyTheScoop]

McAdam to Freo/WCE as part of a trade for a defender?


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[I Lost My Keays]

We don’t need a defender, if we did opt for one we should target Highmore from Saints or Melican from Swans who would come cheap

 

[George Kramer]

Murray won’t play next year and likely takes 18 months to get back to the level he’s played at. McAsey already needs replacing. We will get another one. No doubt about that.

We replaced McAsey with Keane, shows how stupid we were to use pick on.a KPD.

 

[Faaarrk]

McAdam to Freo/WCE as part of a trade for a defender?


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No thanks.
McAdam shouldn’t be going anywhere

 

[Danger in Texas]

Kaine Baldwin .....21 YO .....had 25 possessions yesterday, playing KPD

Word is, he's really settling into the KP role and was close to ESS's best player yesterday .....out of Contract

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What’s the point, with Keane looking good and Murray to come back at some point?

 

[Danger in Texas]

No thanks.
McAdam shouldn’t be going anywhere

Yeah I’ll be upset if he leaves

Would only get a 3rd rounder for him, too

 

[WaynesWorld19]

What’s the point, with Keane looking good and Murray to come back at some point?

We disagree on the need for a KPD .....Lets see if the Club agree's with me

You're putting a lot of faith in no injuries / poor form .....give me your thoughts again after the BRIS game

 

[dylan123]

We disagree on the need for a KPD .....Lets see if the Club agree's with me

You're putting a lot of faith in no injuries / poor form .....give me your thoughts again after the BRIS game

Best defenders in the league will always struggle if the game is lost up the field. Much like you can hide average ones if it doesn't come back there much.

So I get the need to possibly add a player however I still hope our focus is improving in the middle.

 

[Danger in Texas]

We disagree on the need for a KPD .....Lets see if the Club agree's with me

You're putting a lot of faith in no injuries / poor form .....give me your thoughts again after the BRIS game

It’s moreso that there’s no point in getting one that will want to push for best 22

I’m cool with looking for one for depth

 

[George Kramer]

It’s moreso that there’s no point in getting one that will want to push for best 22

I’m cool with looking for one for depth

If it’s depth where does that put Keane and Borlase? It’s going to want to be a cheap get

 

[Danger in Texas]

If it’s depth where does that put Keane and Borlase? It’s going to want to be a cheap get

You’d realistically want one that doesn’t play ahead of those two - a DFA or rookie pick

Keep them on the list for a year, delist when Murray gets back to full health

 

[WaynesWorld19]

It’s moreso that there’s no point in getting one that will want to push for best 22

I’m cool with looking for one for depth

There's is absolutely no way we're trading for a KPD to play SANFL ......he may start there, but we don't trade for SANFL players

If that's what you want .....you rookie a KPD

 

[WaynesWorld19]

You’d realistically want one that doesn’t play ahead of those two - a DFA or rookie pick

Keep them on the list for a year, delist when Murray gets back to full health

So, on one game .....you have Borlaise as an AFL player .....WOW

Casboult isn't exactly a Buddy Franklin, or Tom Hawkins

If the plan is to play Finals next year .....we're going to be facing the very best Key FWDS

 

[Danger in Texas]

So, on one game .....you have Borlaise as an AFL player .....WOW

Casboult isn't exactly a Buddy Franklin, or Tom Hawkins

If the plan is to play Finals next year .....we're going to be facing the very best Key FWDS

Huh? Why are we recruiting an AFL-caliber KPD for one year?

What do you do with Keane when it comes to 2025? Does he get pushed out when Murray comes back, even if he keeps improving?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Huh? Why are we recruiting an AFL-caliber KPD for one year?

What do you do with Keane when it comes to 2025? Does he get pushed out when Murray comes back, even if he keeps improving?

Competition for spots is essential ......injuries occur ....the problem has been for both ROB and Butts, there's been no-one genuinely competing for their spot

Granted, Keane has had to build fitness, touch, and familiarity with the game-plan

I'm not convinced, our KPD's are now set & forget for a premiership assault

 

[rabidcrow]

You’d realistically want one that doesn’t play ahead of those two - a DFA or rookie pick

Keep them on the list for a year, delist when Murray gets back to full health

It’s one of two options.

Look for a permanent upgrade on Butts and Keane (early days still for him) - trade for a starting quality defender

Go absolute cheap as chips for dire emergency use only (delisted player or state league player as a rookie)


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[Redline]

Yeah I’ll be upset if he leaves

Would only get a 3rd rounder for him, too

My guess is we are offering two more years maximum and possibly only one.

My other guess is his Manager is trying to get three somewhere.

How many would you offer?

 

[Firewalker]

Delistings becoming more and more complicated by the day, of course they need to free up 3 main list spots after trade and before the draft but as it stands only Hately (who can feel a bit hard done by) is the only sure thing to be delisted, they are still acting like they want to keep Doedee and even if Crouch goes they dumbly want to keep Sloane which will put McAdam in an uncertain position.

Borlase providing more complications after the weekend, I don’t think they banked on keeping him but now the only way they can is either through somehow freeing up a non-existent spot on the main list or risk delisting him and avoid anyone going near him as a DFA & trying to get him to last until the club’s pick in the rookie draft.

Thinking with Brown (Seedsman) & McPherson delisted from the rookie list, would not be surprised if someone like a Hamill who’s contracted for 2024 is delisted and rookied or could even be Bond just so they can free that extra main list spot.

 

[Golumless]

Delistings becoming more and more complicated by the day, of course they need to free up 3 main list spots after trade and before the draft but as it stands only Hately (who can feel a bit hard done by) is the only sure thing to be delisted, they are still acting like they want to keep Doedee and even if Crouch goes they dumbly want to keep Sloane which will put McAdam in an uncertain position.

Borlase providing more complications after the weekend, I don’t think they banked on keeping him but now the only way they can is either through somehow freeing up a non-existent spot on the main list or risk delisting him and avoid anyone going near him as a DFA & trying to get him to last until the club’s pick in the rookie draft.

Thinking with Brown (Seedsman) & McPherson delisted from the rookie list, would not be surprised if someone like a Hamill who’s contracted for 2024 is delisted and rookied or could even be Bond just so they can free that extra main list spot.

I would be very surprised if we delist anyone who has a contract with the promise of relisting them. Hamill or Bond don't have rocks for brains and aren't going to take a pay cut because we put ourselves in a difficult position.

I kind of lean to the other side. I don't think it's more difficult, I think we've locked up everyone we're planning to keep, or someone had their head turned. The numbers don't really work out that well otherwise, especially seeing if we let a Doedee or McAdam go, we'd want to use those draft picks.

 

[Crow_68]

Delistings becoming more and more complicated by the day, of course they need to free up 3 main list spots after trade and before the draft but as it stands only Hately (who can feel a bit hard done by) is the only sure thing to be delisted, they are still acting like they want to keep Doedee and even if Crouch goes they dumbly want to keep Sloane which will put McAdam in an uncertain position.

Borlase providing more complications after the weekend, I don’t think they banked on keeping him but now the only way they can is either through somehow freeing up a non-existent spot on the main list or risk delisting him and avoid anyone going near him as a DFA & trying to get him to last until the club’s pick in the rookie draft.

Thinking with Brown (Seedsman) & McPherson delisted from the rookie list, would not be surprised if someone like a Hamill who’s contracted for 2024 is delisted and rookied or could even be Bond just so they can free that extra main list spot.

We also need to upgrade Murray and Parnell in addition to Borlase.

Our current main list is at the maximum 38 including McAsey. I agree Hately is gone so that would then leave 36.

3 x upgrades would mean 39 spots needed, even before trading/drafting.

Think the talk around Doedee and perhaps Crouch is just posturing, still believe both are moving on.

I think we will put a few up for trade, incl. Hamill and perhaps Sholl.

Reckon we only take 1, maximum 2 in the draft and use our remaining picks for the rookie upgrades.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I would be very surprised if we delist anyone who has a contract with the promise of relisting them. Hamill or Bond don't have rocks for brains and aren't going to take a pay cut because we put ourselves in a difficult position.

I kind of lean to the other side. I don't think it's more difficult, I think we've locked up everyone we're planning to keep, or someone had their head turned. The numbers don't really work out that well otherwise, especially seeing if we let a Doedee or McAdam go, we'd want to use those draft picks.

Why not? We did it last year with Moose and Seedsman

 

[Golumless]

Why not? We did it last year with Moose and Seedsman

Both were wrecked by injuries though, which isn't the case this year.

I think you look at Moose this year and that's the reason you say no to Adelaide asking if you want to be demoted to the rookie list.

 

[Firewalker]

We also need to upgrade Murray and Parnell in addition to Borlase.

Our current main list is at the maximum 38 including McAsey. I agree Hately is gone so that would then leave 36.

3 x upgrades would mean 39 spots needed, even before trading/drafting.

Think the talk around Doedee and perhaps Crouch is just posturing, still believe both are moving on.

I think we will put a few up for trade, incl. Hamill and perhaps Sholl.

Reckon we only take 1, maximum 2 in the draft and use our remaining picks for the rookie upgrades.

Yeah had taken into account Murray & Parnell, even with McAsey freeing up 1 spot on the main list still literally see no spots available for Borlase or maybe McAdam, they’ll have to shop Sholl hard as they’ll be no takers for Hamill. Himmelberg the only other one if Freo are still interested.

I would be very surprised if we delist anyone who has a contract with the promise of relisting them. Hamill or Bond don't have rocks for brains and aren't going to take a pay cut because we put ourselves in a difficult position.

I kind of lean to the other side. I don't think it's more difficult, I think we've locked up everyone we're planning to keep, or someone had their head turned. The numbers don't really work out that well otherwise, especially seeing if we let a Doedee or McAdam go, we'd want to use those draft picks.

They get paid the exact same amount that they are owed in their current contract whether they’re moved on to the rookie list, they just jump on to the other list exactly the same situation as McPherson this year.