List Mgmt. 2023 List Management

[HarryFlashman]

I think he’s been deserving of another chance in the 1s for a while, showed good vfl form all year. I have a feeling he might get delisted, kinda like what the did with Gibson. Gibson was alright in his last year but the club decided he didn’t quite have all the attributes they wanted.
If Fog can play the rest of the season like he did today, it will make it a hard decision for them

No doubt, he shows up every week, his tackle numbers are huge, does a power of work & skill set is definitely better than vfl.
He has been constantly in the mix as one of the best players week on week, is only behind “he who must not be named” & Binns for skills, performance & impact.

 

[Beyond Blue]

If I were the club I’d throw Hurn a one year deal to play 2 years to be assistant coach. Solid citizen. winner.

 

[Brackets]

I would rather keep Fog and trade Fisher if we can. We have little draft value currently, so need to consider moves such as this to improve the team going into next year.

Either should only be depth next year given we should be targeting similar types, along with a hopefully improved Durdin and Motlop.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I would rather keep Fog and trade Fisher if we can. We have little draft value currently, so need to consider moves such as this to improve the team going into next year.

Either should only be depth next year given we should be targeting similar types, along with a hopefully improved Durdin and Motlop.

Jon Ralph seemed pretty certain Fisher will be seeking a trade West on the broadcast today. Said TDK most likely, Fisher certainly.

 

[King Cripps]

Both Cuningham and Kemp are both priorities for their signatures

 

[xDQ82x]

As I've said in the past Fisher has a monster offer from west coast.

TDK also gone

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

As I've said in the past Fisher has a monster offer from west coast.

TDK also gone

Any word on where he's off to or what we'll be seeking for TDK in a trade?

 

[bigblueboy]

Any word on where he's off to or what we'll be seeking for TDK in a trade?

Geelong.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Geelong.

Wouldn't be surprised, was hoping it would be Sydney or Saints purely because they aren't as floggish as Geelong are.

 

[Juice030103]

Give us ur first rounder or Holmes Geelong or we let him walk to the draft and u miss out on him

Time to be ruthless

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Give us ur first rounder or Holmes Geelong or we let him walk to the draft and u miss out on him

Time to be ruthless

Yeah I'd be happy with that, not a chance he'd make it to them. They've got pick 10 and pick 82. If they were willing to take him with 10 they'd just trade it to us.

 

[Prem17]

I've skipped a few pages but gotta admit I'm surprised at how bullish people are re Gresham.
I'm not saying he can't add anything to our side but I personally think that Cuningham offers us a similar player type.
He's capable of getting the ball midfield, going inside 50, positions well inside 50 and is a smart small forward.

IMHO, concentrate on getting Cunningham's fitness right and focus on other trade targets.

 

[bigblueboy]

Give us ur first rounder or Holmes Geelong or we let him walk to the draft and u miss out on him

Time to be ruthless

Holmes is contracted. Won’t be going anywhere.

 

[katmanblue]

Jon Ralph seemed pretty certain Fisher will be seeking a trade West on the broadcast today. Said TDK most likely, Fisher certainly.

**** Ralph

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[branedotorg]

As I've said in the past Fisher has a monster offer from west coast.

TDK also gone

Every player has a price and neither are irreplaceable - TDK the one I'd keep but reinvesting his contract value into HFF and a journeyman ruck is a squad upgrade imo.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Would prefer to keep Fisher than sell him at his lowest. We have at least 10 worse players than him to cycle through before we start culling AFL quality players in positions of need.

Certainly not irreplaceable and we do need to upgrade our forward flanks but you need to demote these types to the 40th player on the list rather than throw them out all together. That's how we will improve.

 

[branedotorg]

Would prefer to keep Fisher than sell him at his lowest. We have at least 10 worse players than him to cycle through before we start culling AFL quality players in positions of need.

Certainly not irreplaceable and we do need to upgrade our forward flanks but you need to demote these types to the 40th player on the list rather than throw them out all together. That's how we will improve.

We don't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick this year and what are the 10 worse players going to bring in, pickwise?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Would prefer to keep Fisher than sell him at his lowest. We have at least 10 worse players than him to cycle through before we start culling AFL quality players in positions of need.

Certainly not irreplaceable and we do need to upgrade our forward flanks but you need to demote these types to the 40th player on the list rather than throw them out all together. That's how we will improve.

Getting rid of someone like Honey won't get us a pick to replace him. Fisher won't get us a great pick by any means but he has some currency which gives us flexibility to move up the order for a better player or have a stab at a late pick who better suits our list. Fisher doesn't have the running power our list needs and that's not going to change unfortunately.

 

[Prem17]

Getting rid of someone like Honey won't get us a pick to replace him. Fisher won't get us a great pick by any means but he has some currency which gives us flexibility to move up the order for a better player or have a stab at a late pick who better suits our list. Fisher doesn't have the running power our list needs and that's not going to change unfortunately.

I've been on the Fisher bandwagon from that very first AFL kick but he's just got too big a gap between his best and worst.
Doesn't hold enough tackles, disposal can be poor at times and just doesn't get to the right position to help out often enough.
If another club thinks they can make something out of him, then we need to take that trade now while he's under contract.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

We don't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick this year and what are the 10 worse players going to bring in, pickwise?

We will need to get creative. Not sure Fish even nets us a pick within the top 40 at the moment. His value is low. Trading him for any less is not worth it as he can turn it around, hence the appeal.

TDK will bring in a strong pick and we can play with our future first. I have no issue replacing our bottom few (Honey/Philp) with late picks as we don't lose out in 2024 but we can't just flick valuable depth for nothing.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Geelong.

Would rather it was the Swans. After seeing what that turd Mackie did with the Henry trade last year, chances are he'll try to **** us over as well.

I'll bet my backside they'll be looking to split their 1st round pick to they can offer us chump change..."sorry, we can't trade what we no longer have."

Stephen Wells was a pure professional when it came to trades....this guy seems like an up and coming Adrian Dodoro.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Getting rid of someone like Honey won't get us a pick to replace him. Fisher won't get us a great pick by any means but he has some currency which gives us flexibility to move up the order for a better player or have a stab at a late pick who better suits our list. Fisher doesn't have the running power our list needs and that's not going to change unfortunately.

Honey can be replaced with the last pick in the rookie draft. He won't make it unfortunately.

Fisher has shown he is AFL quality and at the very least will provide decent depth in a position of need. What currency do you think he has right now?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Honey can be replaced with the last pick in the rookie draft. He won't make it unfortunately.

Fisher has shown he is AFL quality and at the very least will provide decent depth in a position of need. What currency do you think he has right now?

Don't know but if he's keen to go I certainly wouldn't be fighting to keep him. If he wants to stay fine, same as Mcgov... but if either want to play elsewhere id take whatever pick we can get for each of them and march on to 2024.

 

[Sickblue]

Honey can be replaced with the last pick in the rookie draft. He won't make it unfortunately.

Fisher has shown he is AFL quality and at the very least will provide decent depth in a position of need. What currency do you think he has right now?

On current form it’s pick 40-50, but he’s contracted and if the massive offer is true WCE would have to cough up a pick in the 25-30 range for us to bite you would imagine. Could be quite a bit of off season movement at the club this year with Fish, TDK and potentially Sos.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

On current form it’s pick 40-50, but he’s contracted and if the massive offer is true WCE would have to cough up a pick in the 25-30 range for us to bite you would imagine. Could be quite a bit of off season movement at the club this year with Fish, TDK and potentially Sos.

I don't think WCE are in the position to drop a second round pick on a player who will never be in the best 15 at a club. They are after him because they think he'll be cheap and his value is low. A pick within the top 30 would be a no brainer.

Most clubs will make 8-10 changes in an off-season and you hope that the majority of them come from the bottom of the list. Then you try and bolster your best 30 or so with your new additions.

I don't feel like we are doing either by moving on Fisher for unders (removing a bottom 8 player or improving our best 22 + initial depth).

For a player like Honey or Philp, you are losing the 40th player on the list and replacing them with a player who would be 40th on the list but has the potential to be better. So I have no issue in that.

Perhaps I just rate Fish higher than others but that's how I see it.