Preview 2023 Rd 13 Carlton vs Essendon Sunday June 11 7:15PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in ...


IN: Ed Curnow, Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

, Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

OUT: Paddy Dow, Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

, Lochie O'Brien

4

Lochie O'brien

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

AFL team news: Martin among three Round 13 inclusions

Carlton's team is in for the Round 13 clash with Essendon.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Jordan Boyd
Half-backs:	Adam Saad	Mitch McGovern	Brodie Kemp
Centreline:	Sam Walsh	Patrick Cripps	Blake Acres
Half-forwards:	Jack Martin	Charlie Curnow	Sam Docherty
Forwards:	Matthew Owies	Harry McKay	Tom De Koning
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Adam Cerra	Ed Curnow
Interchange:	Matthew Cottrell	Matthew Kennedy	Jesse Motlop
	Lewis Young
Emergencies:	Lachie Cowan	Paddy Dow	Lachie Fogarty
	Jack Silvagni

 

[My Hat]

His demise is strange. One can speculate about ego playing a role. His one wood has stayed exactly the same its not like he got figured out all of a sudden.

It seems like the want is gone.


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Without knowing his average CBA attendances for the last few seasons and this my first guess is he's being beaten up because we dont rotate him forward anymore and probably didn't much last season either tbh but he hit a wall even in the Brownlow season - dunno. Don't want it to be attitude, it's almost too much of a dip for just some lost form.

IIRC it turned out his last form dip a couple of years ago coincided with his partner facing some health challenges. Hope that's not the case this time.

 

[Benaly28]

Could Marchbank come in to release Gov to ply forward taking jsos role?


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[Revenant1965]

IIRC it turned out his last form dip a couple of years ago coincided with his partner facing some health challenges. Hope that's not the case this time.

Likewise... just wondering also if he could be hampered a bit by his back...

 

[Red Bull]

Could Marchbank come in to release Gov to ply forward taking jsos role?


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He could and his notoriously slow ball movement would probably appeal to Voss atm.
Not sure he’s the answer if we have any intention of getting with the current, modern program.
McGovern has the tools but is unfortunately playing with the wrong motivations …

 

[Ald Gardiner]

Marchbank is the “Bradman” of slow ball movement.
He’ll be first picked on Thursday night …

You’re going too hard on him Red Bull. He’s not Bruce Doull, but he’s an elite intercept defender. If slow ball movement is his biggest issue I’ll gladly take that for the other positives he can add, especially releasing Gov or Kemp forward

 

[Red Bull]

You’re going too hard on him Red Bull. He’s not Bruce Doull, but he’s an elite intercept defender. If slow ball movement is his biggest issue I’ll gladly take that for the other positives he can add, especially releasing Gov or Kemp forward

Well i suppose he’s got the rest of the season to stake a claim for a place on the list next year.
Good luck to him …

 

[passmark]

Is this where you come to say “I’ve got a good feeling about this game”?

Or do I shut up and pray like everyone else?

 

[Aphrodite]

Is this where you come to say “I’ve got a good feeling about this game”?

Or do I shut up and pray like everyone else?

 

[passmark]

Hope nobody is suggesting Martin Play.

He's moving like a 60 year old.

 

[JustaBattler]

Unfortunately it will be 1-2 more weeks before this structure can be implemented ( fingers crossed on injury) - but tI think these changes bring Carlton back to genuine finals quality across the ground - (looking at opposition goal posts)

FF: Jack Silvagni Harry Martin
HF: Cuningham Charlie Honey

C: Acres Cerra Walsh
F: TDK Cripps Hewett

Cincotta McGovern Saad
Marchbank Weitering Kemp

IC: Dow Docherty Young Boyd Sub: Cottrell

#1. Addition of Cuningham and Martin lifts forward line to AFL standard at worst - by including genuine leg speed and finishing polish combined with contested ball ability - I think Honey should be played as a HFF to use his running power and tackling ability and natural attacking game I prefer his game to Fisher/Owies/Motlop

#2. I would play Young as a second ruck defensive rotation and I would play TDK as ruck /forwad rotation

Whilst Kennedy is out I would play Dow as a mid rotation, Docherty as a defense /mid rotation and Boyd as a defensive wing rotation.

#3. I would add Marchbank in ASAP in order to have genuine intercepting capability all through the backline ( Marchbank/Kemp/McGovern/Weitering ) Cincotta/Saad/Boyd have enough run in them to balance things out.

I think these changes massively increase the skill level, run and genuine pressure that the team can exert back middle and forward.

Notes: I am keeping Docherty in the side as a swing mid/defender not based on his current form. I am putting Jack in a forward pcoket to KEEP HARRY AWAY from left hand side of our forward fifty. I am using Yioung for his height as a second ruck and marking target as a resting body in teh forwards or defender if required. I put Cerra in as the boss of teh midfield because he is teh bloke that is playing that role anyway.

Finally I can rid the side of the worst defenders and proven not up to it smaller players : Fisher/Owies/Motlop/LoB and using Cottrell as teh sub.

I reckon this side would have won the last 5 matches.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Hope nobody is suggesting Martin Play.

He's moving like a 60 year old.

From that game I reckon Marchy and Dom are travelling better than any other afl listed player. These blokes actually get their teammates involved

 

[passmark]

From that game I reckon Marchy and Dom are travelling better than any other afl listed player. These blokes actually get their teammates involved

I thought Cuningham looked pretty good. Certainly cleaner than most of the guys playing 1's.

 

[The Bighouse]

We are 1-7 since Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

has returned.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

I thought Cuningham looked pretty good. Certainly cleaner than most of the guys playing 1's.

He can’t even lay a tackle, he’s way off it for me. His conditioning looks great as opposed to Martin who ran out of gas after 5 minutes but he can’t tackle so I don’t know how he’ll cope with the speed of afl knowing his arm is hindering him.

 

[Jimmae]

Fish was poor again, always had his back in previous seasons. Not any more, he is too small, not really quick. Does not impact on the scoreboard. Surely he will be dropped. I think he is the one that they overlooked.

Imagine if we'd traded him 2 or 3 years ago...

23 player for the match sounds right to me. Last time i checked there were 23 players for each club named for the game. So how many players do you think need to be named?

Nominate a sub if you want to do that.

Can win this if we improve our kicking into F50. Martin and O’Brien key to this.

Martin had 18 disposals yesterday, 16 were handpasses and he struggled to accelerate.

I think despite the 3 revenant (cunners marchbank &marin) being underdone we need risk them to give this team a jolt. The team has near zero confidence and is on threshold that wont be easy to come back from if we dont win this.

Without the additions i dont think the team can get up for this.


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Marchbank is good to go, Cunningham is restricted but building, Martin is way off right now.

Taking risks like this is exactly how our list wound up this shot to pieces in the first place.

He could and his notoriously slow ball movement would probably appeal to Voss atm.
Not sure he’s the answer if we have any intention of getting with the current, modern program.
McGovern has the tools but is unfortunately playing with the wrong motivations …

Marchbank? Slow ball movement? Since when??

The worst argument you can make is he tries too much to run and carry, but he's always moving or moving the ball on.

 

[The Bighouse]

He can’t even lay a tackle, he’s way off it for me. His conditioning looks great as opposed to Martin who ran out of gas after 5 minutes but he can’t tackle so I don’t know how he’ll cope with the speed of afl knowing his arm is hindering him.

Don’t think our forwards are laying tackles, are they?

 

[Jimmae]

We are 1-7 since Sam Walsh has returned.

Ah yes, centre bounce specialist and contested midfield beast Sam Walsh.

He's just like Selwood, you see

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Don’t think our forwards are laying tackles, are they?

So bring in another one that’ll do the same and get lost up forward?

 

[passmark]

He can’t even lay a tackle, he’s way off it for me. His conditioning looks great as opposed to Martin who ran out of gas after 5 minutes but he can’t tackle so I don’t know how he’ll cope with the speed of afl knowing his arm is hindering him.

I'm thinking that since the club didn't elect to have surgery they are prepared to carry a mid who can run, move through traffic and kick pretty well even though his tackling might be sub par.

Also, he may have chosen not to tackle yesterday (stats have him at 3 tackles).

I think they'll pick him, otherwise what's the point of not going for surgery?

 

[thebluenewdeal]

I'm thinking that since the club didn't elect to have surgery they are prepared to carry a mid who can run, move through traffic and kick pretty well even though his tackling might be sub par.

Also, he may have chosen not to tackle yesterday (stats have him at 3 tackles).

I think they'll pick him, otherwise what's the point of not going for surgery?

It’s Murphy 2.0

 

[Rustica]

Bombers will pull our pants down and laugh

Thankfully I wont be in the country to witness it in person

What a disappointing season. Has Melbourne 2019 vibes but we aren’t coming off a prelim loss from the previous year.

 

[The Bighouse]

So bring in another one that’ll do the same and get lost up forward?

Davey can at least move up the ground and deliver into the forward line.
My preferred forward setup has him within (perhaps too early just yet) but it’s a lost zone up there for everyone it seems.

 

[The Bighouse]

It’s Murphy 2.0

That didn’t end well…

 

[The Bighouse]

Bombers will pull our pants down and laugh

Thankfully I wont be in the country to witness it in person

What a disappointing season. Has Melbourne 2019 vibes but we aren’t coming off a prelim loss from the previous year.

But we almost made finals in ‘22. Pats on the back for that.

 

[passmark]

It’s Murphy 2.0

Lets hope not.