Preview 2023 Rd 16 - Carlton v Hawthorn Sunday 2nd July - 1:10PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in ...





IN: Ed Curnow, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

OUT: Matthew Cottrell (suspension), Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

(knee soreness), Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

AFL team news: Dual additions for Blues

Carlton has named two additions to its Round 16 team.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Brodie Kemp	Jacob Weitering	Jordan Boyd
Half-backs:	Nic Newman	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Walsh
Half-forwards:	Jack Silvagni	Charlie Curnow	Jack Martin
Forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Harry McKay	David Cuningham
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Adam Cerra	Sam Docherty
Interchange:	Alex Cincotta	Ed Curnow	Matthew Kennedy
	Matthew Owies
Emergencies:	Jaxon Binns	George Hewett	Josh Honey
	Lewis Young

 

[berisha]

No one hated Murphy and no one hates Ed.

Murphy's selection in his final year, just like Ed's this year, was constantly criticised. And I think you'll find there were more than a few unnecessary and nasty comments thrown at Murphy.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Personally disappointed with the Ed in. Love Ed but not an ideal replacement for Cottrell imo and would prefer Walsh not have to play the wing role. Thought we looked best when he was part of the centre square group. Looking likely TDK will be a late out based on reports and hope Young plays as the primary ruck (with JSOS getting as little ruck minutes as possible). Either way the team listed is still more than good enough to win if we come out with the same attitude as we did against the Suns. GB!

I have no doubt Ed will play HF and replace Cottrell. it's a nothing replacement though.
I would be shocked if we changed our wings from Docherty and Acres.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Let's just keep not selecting Binns and playing Curnow ahead of him, sounds logical.

 

[DirtyLeeds]

Anyone heard from Voss why they've picked Ed? I can't help but hear that Collingwood Mug McMaguane clearly state that while we continue to pick Ed we're going nowhere.....AND HE'S BLOODY RIGHT


AND WE KEEP BLOODY PICKING HIM

 

[Fridge42]

Let's just keep not selecting Binns and playing Curnow ahead of him, sounds logical.

If you aren’t a 1st or 2nd year player and Ed is playing before you it’s time for a new profession.

 

[carlton_99]

I have no doubt Ed will play HF and replace Cottrell. it's a nothing replacement though.
I would be shocked if we changed our wings from Docherty and Acres.

Hope not. I really liked Docherty on the wing and think having both Walsh and Cerra at as many centre bounces as possible is critical.

 

[bigblueboy]

Murphy's selection in his final year, just like Ed's this year, was constantly criticised. And I think you'll find there were more than a few unnecessary and nasty comments thrown at Murphy.

Supporters treat some players like family members. Beyond criticism and reproach.
Others treat them as utterly disposable, completely inadequate.
Murphy’s treatment was a little of column A and a little of column B.
Expectations however were sky high due to his draft position and early career performance.

Totally different scenario with E Curnow. Never been beyond criticism but admired by getting the most out of himself.

Just because supporters go the wrong way about criticising selection doesn’t mean they ain’t right.

Indeed in the Murphy situation, he was a liability at times in his last year. Think some - including me - seeing Curnow the same way this year.

 

[Kramer1]

The MC have the integrity of wet cardboard.

It's shameful. I've seen more earnest performances on Utopia.

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

I'm really angry over our continued meek team selection. Sorry to say it but you reap what you sow. We will keep having the results that we deserve.

 

[dumb]

Murphy got carried to 300 games, and seeing as he retired on that number he knew it too. Still remember him getting us home late in a few games though.
Maybe Ed can snap the winning goal against the Hawks!

 

[Ash05]

Selection ridiculous again. Binns should have been in weeks ago. Dow needs to stay in. Selection is a joke

 

[BigBreakfast]

C’mon baggers. Crack in for the jumper, not who is or isn’t in it!

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Pathetic selection integrity. Must be a boys club and it's disappointing. Was planning on going to the game but I'll give it a miss

 

[Fridge42]

it's so true - an untried binns plus paddy dow would see a ten goal win guaranteed............

We are playing team who have cut to the bone, got beat by 67pts last week against the team we just beat by 59pts and we bring in a 34yr old to be careful.

If we dont win by 5+ goals it is a disgrace.

However, it seems we are genuinely worried about getting beat.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Shouldn’t every team be concerned with losing every week? Isn’t that the nature of a sporting contest?

And they are only 1 spot below us on the ladder.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Looking ahead to when we are in the grand final and 22 players I dont like get picked.
I just won't go, I won't I tell ya............

 

[Mezzoculo]

Not sure why the hesitation to play Binns.

Ed's in so it must be recycling this week.





(Sorry Ed, love you).

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

Pathetic selection integrity. Must be a boys club and it's disappointing. Was planning on going to the game but I'll give it a miss

Boys club for sure that's why I'm so keen to ship off the chairman and the coach who is trying valiantly for membership.

 

[macky99]

it's so true - an untried binns plus paddy dow would see a ten goal win guaranteed............

It is hardly the point, it is about rewarding consistent performances and looking ahead to next year, both Binns & Dow have been by far our best performers,continuing to play Ed Curnow is just plain ridiculous & continuing to play JSos as a 2nd ruck which everyone knows he is just not up to it.

How about being a little creative & instead of repeating the same things that have failed, actually feel sorry that Jack is being asked to play this role, it takes too long for our MC to see the obvious.

 

[Tjblues]

So you’ve seen his gps numbers?

Isn’t it correct that he went back to the VFL and improved his defensive running to the point he’s regularly running out full games as a midfielder. Racking up 30+ possessions per game? Running both ways?

Wasn’t he played as a defensive player against Rowell where he ran off him, albeit as the sub?

Correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t one of the biggest knocks on Dow been his ability to run defensively? I would argue that playing against a high run and carry opponent is far WORSE for Dow than Fog.


How dare you suggest Dow is hard done by with superstars like Ed and Fog keeping him out of the team. Both run like the wind, rack up mountains of possessions and dispose of the ball with laser-“like 50 metre kicks.

Next minute you will be saying Binns deserves a go.

Bizarrely aggressive response.

I’ve seen little evidence of improved defensive work in the VFL. He’s one of the best offensive mids in the comp down there but I don’t notice him working to get the ball back when it leaves stoppage. And that’s FINE. He’s not perfect, nobody is.

I really don’t think we sent someone to watch Rowell defensively when we were 10 goals up in the last quarter. But if we did and he exploited the fact that he’d spent 65% less of the game on the field then that’s a credit to him.

My least favourite thing about the rabid support of Dow from some on these forums is the need to denigrate or bring down his teammates to make him sound better. I didn’t mention Ed Curnow at all and the discussion around Fogarty was that they see him performing a totally different role, albeit with him chopping out a few centre bounces (nice edit btw)

Nothing to do with “50 metre laser passes” or “running like the wind”.

 

[Tjblues]

It is hardly the point, it is about rewarding consistent performances and looking ahead to next year, both Binns & Dow have been by far our best performers,continuing to play Ed Curnow is just plain ridiculous & continuing to play JSos as a 2nd ruck which everyone knows he is just not up to it.

How about being a little creative & instead of repeating the same things that have failed, actually feel sorry that Jack is being asked to play this role, it takes too long for our MC to see the obvious.

Besides possibly Young I don’t know what else the MC can do about the ruck this week.

O’Keefe looks a real goer but he’s averaging less than 6 touches and 1 mark a game in the VFL and he’d be eaten alive in the seniors at this stage.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Gotta say I can't see the logic in selecting Ed.....as a high half forward??? The only ones high are our MC...

I thought it was a good move to re-rookie him at the start of the year as a back-up mid if we were hit by injuries and making a run for the finals - like last year.

But right now we have a full book of midfielders, so I'm not sure why he's actually getting a game ahead of the others. Apart from one game earlier this year where I had him in the votes, his form has otherwise been fairly shizenhouzen.

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Poor Ed has done little this year but let him play out his days makes no difference we a long way off - Binns can play out the last 5 games .. hewitt will surely be sub .. we going to prove to everyone foot speed is not imperative to be competitive ..
sad thing is fish has fallen off white board and his magnet seems to have found its way to the black hole ..
Jack as second ruck pitto always injured TDK probably leaving if he hasn't signed post bye think finally have to address the elephant in the room can we afford Grundy ?

 

[Kruezing]

Poor Ed has done little this year but let him play out his days makes no difference we a long way off - Binns can play out the last 5 games .. hewitt will surely be sub .. we going to prove to everyone foot speed is not imperative to be competitive ..
sad thing is fish has fallen off white board and his magnet seems to have found its way to the black hole ..
Jack as second ruck pitto always injured TDK probably leaving if he hasn't signed post bye think finally have to address the elephant in the room can we afford Grundy ?

Isn’t Fish injured ?