List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management discussion

[briztoon]

Phoenix Gothard sounds a bit like a Charlie / linc replacement. I guess it depends how much faith we have in Lohmann to come on. Feel as though 2024 is a big year for him, should be forcing his way in to the team by now. Should make pressure off the ball his weapon. He lowers his eyes really well i think, could be a great link in our forward line i think because of that

lol we’re on the same page. Loved what he did in the championships this year.

 

[Mighty Lions]

We probably do need to invest in another small forward or utility type player though regardless of what happens with Lohmann, with Cockatoo retiring now and if rumours are true that B.Coleman & White Jnr will be delisted by the club at the end of this year.

Think Coleman will be on our list in 2024 but dont like Whitey Jnr's chances.

 

[Viceregal]

Think Coleman will be on our list in 2024 but dont like Whitey Jnr's chances.

Doesn't have the skills, attitude, surpluss to needs, innocent victim of list management?

 

[twhowler]

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lol we’re on the same page. Loved what he did in the championships this year

I'm in good company then

Lohmann was a genuine bolter - i think shows some good signs but is no guarantee to kick on.

It will be interesting to see how Cameron's end of career goes. Similar player to Betts, relies on speed and movement. That will drop off. Betts was at his peak still in 2017. He turned 31yo at then end of that season. On that metric Charlie has 2 more elite seasons left, given he is 29yo now (turned in July). You'd take that really given it aligns with the peak of our window (we hope) with Daniher / Neale / Linc / Oscar should also still be at their peak during that time but go downhill after.

Betts' 2 seasons after are a bit hard to gauge because the crows went from 17 wins in 2017 to 9 in 2018. And there was the dreaded draft camp. But Betts had 2 more good season in 2018/19 while not seeming at his peak anymore.

 

[Scubaveg]

Phoenix Gothard sounds a bit like a Charlie / linc replacement. I guess it depends how much faith we have in Lohmann to come on. Feel as though 2024 is a big year for him, should be forcing his way in to the team by now. Should make pressure off the ball his weapon. He lowers his eyes really well i think, could be a great link in our forward line i think because of that

In place of who though?


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[Scubaveg]

Think Coleman will be on our list in 2024 but dont like Whitey Jnr's chances.

Until Kiddy resigns for a period…..


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[briztoon]

In place of who though?


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Not in place of, but to succeed one of Charlie or Linc. Forward planning.

 

[Crusha]

Brandon Ryan - Hawthorn AFL Highlights ............. (3 Games)

Rnd 20 v St Kilda (Debut)
Rnd 21 v Collingwood
Rnd 24 V Freo ( no highlights - replaced by Sub in 3rd Qtr)

 

[Viceregal]

What is the story on Gold Coast's gazillion picks - is the rule about only having as many picks as you have draft spots available not a thing any more?

 

[rye]

What is the story on Gold Coast's gazillion picks - is the rule about only having as many picks as you have draft spots available not a thing any more?

think they have extra list spots as a concession still

 

[JasRulz63]

Brisbane Lions List Changes

The Brisbane Lions confirm trio Rhys Mathieson, Blake Coleman and Darryl McDowell-White Junior will not be offered contracts for 2024.

www.lions.com.au

 

[Nathan Barley]

Brisbane Lions List Changes

The Brisbane Lions confirm trio Rhys Mathieson, Blake Coleman and Darryl McDowell-White Junior will not be offered contracts for 2024.

www.lions.com.au

So Lyons and Zorko must be playing on according to the last line

At least we’ve halved the amount oldies who can’t run on our list

 

[Sproj]

Yep, Mathieson being gone makes me sad. I know the game might have passed him by to an extent but experienced depth is extremely valuable. The other two aren't really surprising.

 

[pulpdriver]

Not surprising but still thought it would've been worthwhile to give Coleman a final shot on the rookie list.

 

[werdna78]

Not surprising but still thought it would've been worthwhile to give Coleman a final shot on the rookie list.

Could he still be picked up as a Rookie?

 

[JasRulz63]

Player movements
IN - Doedee (FA), Ryan (trade), Joyce (SSP)
OUT - Rich (ret), Adams (ret), Fullarton (trade), Gunston (trade), Cockatoo (ret), McDowell-White (del), B. Coleman (del), Mathieson (del)
OOC - Zorko, Brain, Michael

Current list numbers
Primary list (36-38) - 33
Rookie list - category A (4-6) - 5
Rookie list - category B (0-2) - 1
Total (44) - 39 (5 available)

Draft picks
2023 - 30, 39, 51, 54
2024 - 1st, 3rd, 4th (Haw), 4th, 5th

 

[McIvor]

I thought DJ White showed a bit and would’ve been retained.

 

[pulpdriver]

Could he still be picked up as a Rookie?

We could but generally those delistings are announced separately or we make it clear we're committed to re-drafting them as a rookie. This seems like "so long, good luck."

 

[irel]

Player movements
IN - Doedee (FA), Ryan (trade), Joyce (SSP)
OUT - Rich (ret), Adams (ret), Fullarton (trade), Gunston (trade), Cockatoo (ret), McDowell-White (del), B. Coleman (del), Mathieson (del)
OOC - Zorko, Lyons, Brain, Michael

Current list numbers
Primary list (36-38) - 33
Rookie list - category A (4-6) - 5
Rookie list - category B (0-2) - 1
Total (44) - 39 (5 available)

Draft picks
2023 - 30, 39, 51, 54
2024 - 1st, 3rd, 4th (Haw), 4th, 5th

Lyons is contracted

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[Section 5]

Brisbane Lions List Changes

The Brisbane Lions confirm trio Rhys Mathieson, Blake Coleman and Darryl McDowell-White Junior will not be offered contracts for 2024.

www.lions.com.au

Pretty much what most on here expected.

Time now for some new faces to see if they can produce the goods in the next few years.

 

[dlanod]

I thought DJ White showed a bit and would’ve been retained.

I would have thought so too, but he is on the older side for someone who wasn't close to breaking into the team so that probably played a part.

 

[JasRulz63]

It feels like it's been a while since we've gone into the draft with 5 list spots open that we haven't committed to anyone (whether that be re-draft someone in the rookie draft or a category B rookie).

 

[irel]

Mathieson has done well to last as long as he has on an AFL list.

Daryl White in the majority of games I saw was rather poor with some glimpses but not enough to warrant another extension.

Blake Coleman unfortunately did not take the opportunity of his natural talent to make a career of AFL. Pitty he would have been exciting to watch.

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[Nunez]

Any updates on Charlie's brother?

 

[Warwick]

Matho - Heart and soul player of the club but he just wasn’t suited to the modern game.

It’s such a shame we didn’t get to see him celebrating in the rooms with the boys after a GF win. I reckon he would have been more excited than most of those who played.

I’d love to see him given another chance elsewhere. You at least know you’ll get 100% effort from him.