List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread III

[ToxicMegaPunts]

Can't see us grabbing Watson so we still lack a small who can crumb and a small who can apply fwd pressure.... and agree jmah and spice didn't add much and only kept going to turner as as nothing else.... if comb going back then don't need a tall kpd this yr as good. Over now so a caddy would be helpful fwd plus duurs


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Collard might be in the frame with one of our late first rounders.

 

[JGreezy]

We need scoreboard impact, we can't rely on Larkey as heavily as we do.

Don't even need to be quick really, Fritsch is Melbourne's best forward by a country mile, he isn't that quick, he just has the smarts to find space and his mids look for him. If our non-KPF look dangerous and threaten to score, their opponents can't sag off them as much as they are allowed to do at present. It will give Larkey more space.

I really like McCreery at Collingwood, he doesn't have sublime skills, but he is quick and he puts heaps of pressure on, what did he kick 17 goals, i bet more than that were kicked from turnovers he forced just by having a crack. We have guys like Taylor who are gifted with talent but are either lazy or stupid, plays like he has just woken up from a two week bender. I'd rather have Mahony out there than Taylor because I know at least Mahony will have a crack and gives a s**t.

We have Brayden George coming in, who is a powerful leading player. If he comes in ready then he will provide an alternate target.
We might be drafting Duursma, who will kick goals. Maybe Reid, as well.
We can probably push Sheezel forward now that we have Fisher and Stephens. He'll kick goals but also setup easy goals for others.
Zurhaar will be back from injury.

There will be a decent injection of goal kicking talent up forward.

 

[berniemccarthy]

Looks like the next Duursma comes with a fair athletics pedigree as well.

 

[Tas]

We have Brayden George coming in, who is a powerful leading player. If he comes in ready then he will provide an alternate target.
We might be drafting Duursma, who will kick goals. Maybe Reid, as well.
We can probably push Sheezel forward now that we have Fisher and Stephens. He'll kick goals but also setup easy goals for others.
Zurhaar will be back from injury.

There will be a decent injection of goal kicking talent up forward.

We will have more options for sure. We just need players to step up.

 

[Samsquanch]

Luff was the list manager. He would have been taking advise form Finnigan and the rest of the recruiting team.

…and then making the decisions based on the champion data stats.

 

[The Y Factor]

Can't see us grabbing Watson so we still lack a small who can crumb and a small who can apply fwd pressure.... and agree jmah and spice didn't add much and only kept going to turner as as nothing else.... if comb going back then don't need a tall kpd this yr as good. Over now so a caddy would be helpful fwd plus duurs


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Both still have a lot to prove but Hansen Jnr is the crumber and Drury the pressure.

Both have huge upside still so fingers crossed another preseason gives them the the time they need to step up and make an impact next year.

Only 19 the both of them so good luck to them

 

[koshari]

Looks like the next Duursma comes with a fair athletics pedigree as well.

will be the best of them from the people i know from south gippy.

 

[koshari]

We have Brayden George coming in, who is a powerful leading player. If he comes in ready then he will provide an alternate target.
We might be drafting Duursma, who will kick goals. Maybe Reid, as well.
We can probably push Sheezel forward now that we have Fisher and Stephens. He'll kick goals but also setup easy goals for others.
Zurhaar will be back from injury.

There will be a decent injection of goal kicking talent up forward.

really looking fwd to seeing what george can offer

 

[Smoocher]

Dursma a lock to play Half Back if we draft him.

Has athleticism, speed, good height, good mark. good kick.

Can play anywhere.

Rising Star written all over him.

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[ferball]

The below data represents the departing NM footballers come the end of 2023 by way of retirement, delisting, player movement etc.

It would be reasonable to assume the below data is 'replacement value' & it's fair to say we are chasing 'improved value'.

It will be interesting to see if the newly recruited players coming in next season, ie Pink, Fisher, Stephens, Mannagh*, draft picks etc perform equal or better.

*Note: I have included Logue in the data below as he won't play in 2024.

It's a considerable amount to replace.

Stat	Quantity
Kicks	1166​
Marks	568​
Handballs	787​
Disposals	1953​
Goals	15​
Behinds	14​
Hitouts	606​
Tackles	269​
Rebounds	311​
Inside 50's	180​
Clearances	161​
Clangers	307​
Free-For	102​
Free-Against	95​
Contested Pos	767​
Uncontested Pos	1186​
Contested Marks	83​
Marks Inside 50	16​
1%	400​
Bounces	20​
Goal Assists	23​

You'd hope George, Harvey, the two trades we got from carlton and the Swans and even Sheeze can cover that. Maybe Chom having a full season kicks a couple as well.

 

[The_General#1]

I love this from Mick Ablett. There is so much focus at the top end but there are always gems at the back end.

“Incredibly disrespectful”: Draft expert hits back at clubs on class of 2023

“I prefer to go glass half-full.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[New_Roo]

Curtis, Hansen Jr, Drury, Harvey and I would be looking to transfer Simpkin down there. Plus Sheezel, Thomas, Stevo and Zurhaar have some small forward-like skills. Reid would, as well, if we get him.

Watson would be nice but we can function okay without adding another small forward.

Agree all can play down there but none are true small fwds. Drury could turn to a pressure fwd


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[New_Roo]

Collard might be in the frame with one of our late first rounders.

Yes did like the look of him but have go home feelings with him as he took personal leave from the game this yr didn't he


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[New_Roo]

Both still have a lot to prove but Hansen Jnr is the crumber and Drury the pressure.

Both have huge upside still so fingers crossed another preseason gives them the the time they need to step up and make an impact next year.

Only 19 the both of them so good luck to them

Personally see Hansen as more of that high fwd type but happy to trial him see how we go


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[tmcrae92]

Young, old and ‘hungry’: Delisted free agents that deserve a second AFL chance

Young, old and ‘hungry’: Delisted free agents that deserve a second AFL chance

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Pretty sure Rawlings (or possible Viney) said they’d be looking at DFA for potential ready made talls. I think north should go hard after Teakkle and possibly McLaughlin too.

 

[Shagga is all Class]

We have Brayden George coming in, who is a powerful leading player. If he comes in ready then he will provide an alternate target.
We might be drafting Duursma, who will kick goals. Maybe Reid, as well.
We can probably push Sheezel forward now that we have Fisher and Stephens. He'll kick goals but also setup easy goals for others.
Zurhaar will be back from injury.

There will be a decent injection of goal kicking talent up forward.

I think it is an exciting time to be a NMFC supporter.

Our forward line and midfield are projecting to be very good, to top shelf. Whilst we are missing a 2nd KPF forward ATM, the mix of mediums might actual force us to lead at the ball more often, and less down the line nonsense.

As much as posters keep lamenting all the holes on our list, are backline spots that hard to fill? Ready Rucks and KPD are always on the market.

FFS, Matt Spangher, Frampton, Mike Pyke are premiership players.

 

[The_General#1]

Agree all can play down there but none are true small fwds. Drury could turn to a pressure fwd


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I don’t think he’s quick enough to be a pressure fwd. I think he’s better off down back like Jake Bowey. Drury uses the ball well.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Yes it was very astute trading by Brady dealing our 2024 pick 20 for this years… what, pick 18 which in reality is 22/23 after F/S academy players.

Yes it absolutely was.

 

[The Dingrel]

7 Spots to fill? What am I missing?....13 out, 4 in.....we get to keep our 2 extra list spots do we not? That's 9, and likely to take 5 in the draft. That leaves another 4 for DFA, rookie, PSD, MSD, etc??? Or am I missing something?

 

[zoomba23]

Isn't sheez role going to be taken by fisher


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With all due respect to Zac, that is.... a downgrade

 

[Passmore]

7 Spots to fill? What am I missing?....13 out, 4 in.....we get to keep our 2 extra list spots do we not? That's 9, and likely to take 5 in the draft. That leaves another 4 for DFA, rookie, PSD, MSD, etc??? Or am I missing something?

We finished the season with 2 on LTI.

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[The Y Factor]

Personally see Hansen as more of that high fwd type but happy to trial him see how we go


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Yeah you are right, most of his highlights are across half fwd but I think he’s got that agility, tackling , clean hands to play closer to goal alongside Paul Curtis and the talls.

He does love to play up the ground though but we have Stepho, Thomas, George, Zurhaar, Taylor and others doing that.

Time will tell

 

[kirbonavich]

Pink covers off McKays stats nicely.

Harvey was actually NM best contested mark when you average it all out, in saying that - small data set.

You'd hope George, Harvey, the two trades we got from carlton and the Swans and even Sheeze can cover that. Maybe Chom having a full season kicks a couple as well.

Its quality over quantity for mine. As it sits right now we have the following incoming:
Dylan Stephens
Zac Fisher
Toby Pink
Bigoa Nyuon
Brayden George (Considered a new player regarding below data - Data utilised was from Coates League)

Using available data from the AFL, VFL, SANFL, Coates etc, based on previous returns from the above players, we should see improvement in certain categories listed below.
The outgoing players 2023 isn't flattering to say the least.

Certain stats for players aren't recorded in certain competitions, however the data is averaged out conditionally to reflect this.

 

[Horizons_00]

Isn't sheez role going to be taken by fisher


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Hope he takes Lmac role and keeps him out of the afl for a while

 

[berniemccarthy]

Yes it was very astute trading by Brady dealing our 2024 pick 20 for this years… what, pick 18 which in reality is 22/23 after F/S academy players.

Given the fact that the pick would not exist post this year in all likelihood that was indeed astute.