List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

[King Corey]

Edit: will update if ppl happy for this to sticky

Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.

• Mac Andrew
• Hunter Clark
• Zac Fisher
• Sam Flanders
• Mitch Georgiades
• Liam Henry
• Dougal Howard
• Lewis Melican
• Jack Silvagni
• Dylan Stephens
• Adam Tomlinson

 

[roos_fanatic08]

When you say "quite slow", what do you mean exactly?

The tracker suggests he's usually one of the Swans fastest runners, sometimes gets over 33km/h.

McDonald often gets up there too but he is quite slow as well in my opinion.

He is slow to get going which means the more agile key forwards often get separation on Melican quite easily

 

[zoomba23]

Could do worse than Melican. Probably a better 1 on 1 defender than McKay, with worse hands, a kick that'd be on a similar level, and much more pleasant features. Given the cupboard contains Aidan Corr

4

Aidan Corr

Age

30

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.9

4star

MG

291.0

4star

D

13.9

3star

K

11.1

4star

HB

2.7

2star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

291.0

4star

D

7.2

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.6

4star

and a couple of breadcrumbs, we're not really in a position to be nitpicking his flaws

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

Anyone else hearing Dougal Howard

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Dougal Howard

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

or did I wander into the fruit and veg shop and hear a north board member incorrectly?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Anyone else hearing Dougal Howard or did I wander into the fruit and veg shop and hear a north board member incorrectly?

Can he bring hunter Clark with him

 

[Ashley B]

Great Kerridge candidate Dougal Howard

20

Dougal Howard

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

’s with 2 first name multiplier

 

[Rod Stroker]

Any news on Grainger Barass at the Hawks ? Other players like Jade Gresham and Jack Billings at the Saints might add some depth, not sure of their contract status'. And I am sure we will be still interested Hunter Clark

Apparently Blues into Gresham

 

[Retiredbattler]

I'm up for any player who has a decent idea of how to play forward.

Ratts and Viney kind of implied that Brayden George might be more ready that expected to step into a similar role.

He said he’s had no set backs since returning to running and now training.

If his body holds up he’ll slot straight into the forward line. Can play high or deep forward.

His got vice grip hands, but his just as dangerous when the ball hits the ground.

 

[TruRoos7]

He said he’s had no set backs since returning to running and now training.

If his body holds up he’ll slot straight into the forward line. Can play high or deep forward.

His got vice grip hands, but his just as dangerous when the ball hits the ground.

Thanks for the heads up, but please stop with the positivity we can’t handle that sort of thing around here

 

[Reagan Smash]

Himmelberg shuns free agency to sign monster deal with GWS — SEN

He is staying put.

apple.news

 

[tales129]

Himmelberg shuns free agency to sign monster deal with GWS — SEN

He is staying put.

apple.news

Perfect,

Another key defender off the market so we should see magoos stonks continue to rise

 

[Shermanator]

Anyone else hearing Dougal Howard or did I wander into the fruit and veg shop and hear a north board member incorrectly?

Maybe you accidentally overheard a north board member say that Dougal Howard likes fruit and veg?..

 

[Harris 10]

Perfect,

Another key defender off the market so we should see magoos stonks continue to rise

Barrass confirming he's staying at WC would be huge.

 

[giantroo]

Free agency change discussed, Eagles want gun to stay, top prospect's season over

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

 

[shintemaster]

McDonald often gets up there too but he is quite slow as well in my opinion.

He is slow to get going which means the more agile key forwards often get separation on Melican quite easily

Fast thinking, agility and acceleration always more useful than top speed.

 

[shinboner spiggs]

Any news on Grainger Barass at the Hawks ? Other players like Jade Gresham and Jack Billings at the Saints might add some depth, not sure of their contract status'. And I am sure we will be still interested Hunter Clark

Sadly, it’s going to be a tough watch if this is the calibre of player we’re attracting. The first 3 are all cats, and the latter is perennially injured.

 

[krakouers]

Maybe you accidentally overheard a north board member say that Dougal Howard likes fruit and veg?..

A common occurrence I’m sure

 

[Sphynx]

Forget Melican and Howard.

Both are Corr 2.0.



I'd much rather we went after Baldwin who has been killing it at VFL level and has room to develop.

With Reid probably returning from injury, Cox going back and them recruiting McKay (even with Zerk-Thacher leaving), he should move.


Pocket the McKay compo and then trade for Baldwin with one of our third rounders would be extremely smart business. Offer him a long term contract and decent money for the move.

At 21 years old and AFL ready, he's exactly what we need from an age/potential factor.

 

[krakouers]

Forget Melican and Howard.

Both are Corr 2.0.



I'd much rather we went after Baldwin who has been killing it at VFL level and has room to develop.

With Reid probably returning from injury, Cox going back and them recruiting McKay (even with Zerk-Thacher leaving), he should move.


Pocket the McKay compo and then trade for Baldwin with one of our third rounders would be extremely smart business. Offer him a long term contract and decent money for the move.

OOC?

 

[TruRoos7]

Perfect,

Another key defender off the market so we should see magoos stonks continue to rise

Problem is whilst his stonks are rising we will still get shafted by the AFL’s secret white sauce and end up with Pick 3 as our priority pick when we would already get that if Magoo goes on $800k!!

 

[Sphynx]

OOC?

Yes.

 

[krakouers]

Yes.

Just needs a shower to wash the * off him and good plan
Why though are * chasing key backs when they have him?

 

[Pres]

Tomlinson isn’t a key defender, his best seasons have come when he was playing as a running wingman. No.

Personally I remember watching almost all GWS games over the 2018-2020 period when I had a stack of $$ on them to finish top 4, play in GFs and win flags (mostly to no avail!).

Tomlinson was originally a very good KPD at GWS earlier in his career but with his endurance traits he was moved to the wing when Davis, Haynes and Taylor really become first choice. It was also when it started to be trendy for some reason to play a tall wingman.

I remember clearly watching game after game where he was on the wing and could not believe how ineffectual he was there. Could run all day but too slow and lacked the breakaway speed that a modern day wingman has. Possession count always low. He went something like 2 full seasons on the wing without getting a coach's vote and ultimately ended up getting dropped from the team.

Melbourne then offered him a lifeline with Goodwin convinced they needed another wingman. Sure enough it did not work there either and they ended up going with Brayshaw on the other wing to Langdon. I remember posting on the Dees board that he was miles better suited to KPD. And that's where he ended back up. Sure enough he's again been pushed out by another elite duo (May/Lever) but with the move of Petty forward he's started getting games back there again.

I personally think he's an ideal stopgap KPD for us.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Based on list gaps, we would need at the very least two experienced KPDs, one younger developing kpd, one younger developing kpf, one developing ruck, one fast rebounding hb, one fast winger, one classy hb rebounder and one fast small forward.

Given everyone we’ve publicly and privately been linked to, here are some options given we are going to possibly at least lose 10 players:

KPD options

• Ethan Phillips. Will be training with us over the summer. A bigger 198cm lockdown defender who can intercept. Only will be 25 in 2024. Leg speed and agility the main queries, but there’s a reason clubs have continued to track him.
• Caleb Graham. 194cm kpd that can lockdown. Ok intercept numbers, but is better at locking down due to his leg speed and contested marking. Lacks a bit of agility. Have talked to him.
• Melican. Another 194cm defender. Does ok one-on-one, but his lack of leg speed and agility hurts him. Swans often go shorter rather than play him, which doesn’t look great.
• Nick Haynes. Obvious salary dump candidate. Very mature intercepting third kpd.
• Kane Baldwin. Essendon 193cm, 97kg prospect. Probably better suited to the more athletic taller forwards and bigger powerful mediums. We haven’t been linked, but he’s an obvious depth option.
• Kye Turner. 193cm, but only listed at 80ish kg. A psd pickup that hasn’t got a look in.
• Zac Reid. More on the development side and not sure if * would let him go, but he’s a highly rated youngster at 202cm and 90kg. Is versatile as a kpf or kpd. Has battled a lot with injuries, so expect * to try and keep him. Would cost us a lot in the odd chance he would wants to go. We are interested, but haven’t spoke to him yet.
• Josh Hamling. A mature forgotten 194cm defender. More a Corr type defender that can do a job on the smaller KPFs. Otherwise, can get outsized quite often. Not sure if he wants to get back to Victoria.
• Nathan Krueger. 195cm versatile tall that can play at either end. He appears stuck behind a few at the pies. Quick, strong and agile, would be silly not to ask.
• Tom Highmore. 193cm kpd that can lock down ok. A bit in and out at the saints atm. Good depth.
• DGB. 194 highly rated versatile tall. Had a patchy start and is in and out a lot. Would still cost us a bit.
• Jacob Koschitzke. A fallen star that could be a decent kpd.
• I am sure there are a few other league options and draft options as well, but I’m not looking at draft options at this moment.

KPFs

• Tom Fullarton. 200cm, 92kg kpf at the lions who has kicked 26.19 at vfl level this year.
• B Khamis. 191cm versatile tall. I rate him more as a defender, but his forward work has been solid. In and out of the dogs side.
• Wade Derkson. 194cm athletic tall. Has kicked 31 goals in the vfl this year. A more realistic option to leave than Riccardi. Hasn’t got a look in at the giants.
• Chris Burgess. A mature, but limited, 194cm kpf with long arms. Not sure he leaves at his age and not sure we would be interested.
• Joel Smith. Versatile 191cm tall that can play either end. Plays above his height. He is a strong mark of the footy.
• Reef McIness. 194cm, but plays more like a flanker.

Rucks

• Ned Moyle. A big 206cm ruck at the GC. Won’t get a look in behind Witts. Putting up solid numbers at vfl level. Quite a few clubs are interested in the young ruck.
• Matt Flynn. 202cm. Definitely on the outer at the Giants.
• Grundy. Looking very gettable. We are very interested, but not sure if he is. Give it time.
• Himmleburg. More a kpf, but can ruck as well. I don’t personally rate him as a slow lumbering tall, but apparently we’ve asked about him.

HBs and General Defenders

• Nick Hind. In and out at *, so an obvious option with his pace.
• Casey Voss. He gets listed as an option every MSD and rookie draft.
• Constable. Slow, but accumulates well off hb.
• Jy Farrar. 190cm athletic lockdown type that offers solid rebound. A little in and out at the Suns.
• D’Ambrosio. Remains uncontracted and offers obvious class. Bit of a 23rd man at *.
• Sean Lemmens. Older lockdown small defender with little rebound. Hasn’t been a lock this year, but is rightfully rated at the suns.
• Zac Fisher. Isn’t a defender atm, but I wouldn’t mind him as a rebounding hb quarterback Hall type. Wouldn’t cost more than a third. We are interested.
• Keiden Coleman. While a regular, he has been dropped this year and I think he is very gettable with guarantees and a nice pay increase.
• Will Gould. Been used as an undersized KPD. Struggling for a game at the swans.

Wings and Mids

• Declase. 195cm Werribee winger with good endurance. Not sure if he’s keen to be on an afl list given he was overlooked in the msd.
• Finlay Macrae. Plays more as a mid, but can play wing. A ball pig at vfl level.
• Bianco, see above.
• Jeremy Sharp. A 189cm winger and speedster. Exactly what we need.
• James Jordan. Like Sharp, exactly what we need. In and out of the demons side.
• O’Brien. A known player with a nice boot, but limited physical intent.
• Dow. We all know what he is as a player.
• Alex Davies. In and out of the Suns side. Inside mid.
• Parfitt. Has fallen out of favour. Probably in the Narkle school of too good for the vfl, but not good enough for the afl.

Small and General Forwards

• Kai Lohmann. I personally don’t rate him, but has been good at vfl level.
• Ronke. See above.
• S Mannagh. A dominant half forward accumulator and goal kicker at vfl level. Should be on a list.
• Noah Cumberland. A good mark and leg speed. Defensive pressure and attitude the main concern. Definitely has the talent.

 

[Sphynx]

Based on list gaps, we would need at the very least two experienced KPDs, one younger developing kpd, one younger developing kpf, one developing ruck, one fast rebounding hb, one fast winger, one classy hb rebounder and one fast small forward.

Given everyone we’ve publicly and privately been linked to, here are some options given we are going to possibly at least lose 10 players:

KPD options

• Ethan Phillips. Will be training with us over the summer. A bigger 198cm lockdown defender who can intercept. Only will be 25 in 2024. Leg speed and agility the main queries, but there’s a reason clubs have continued to track him.

ITK?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

ITK?