Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[Judd2Sewell]

Rat as a forward would be the most pointless signing ever.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Barracking for the cats to win tonight, makes me sick. But a dog loss should improve the pick we have of there’s!

 

[H00t]

Sam likes Ratugolea as a forward, and he's an upgrade on Kosi so it makes sense.

I don’t really understand the appeal of him as a forward. He’s had years to cement his spot there in the Geelong team and absolutely struggled. Is a liability up there.

 

[WWSD]

Rat as a forward would be the most pointless signing ever.

It’s a backwards move.

Ratugolea’s output as a key forward is worse than Koschitzke.

 

[Billyc]

Sam likes Ratugolea as a forward, and he's an upgrade on Kosi so it makes sense.

Based on what is he a better forward than Kosi? Certainly not on demonstrated form at AFL level.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Based on what is he a better forward than Kosi? Certainly not on demonstrated form at AFL level.

He doesn't look half as robotic as a forward.

 

[smish]

McKay free agent, front ended
Gresham free agent, front ended
Trade 2023 1st for Smith
Trade 2024 1st for King
Draft McCabe

I would do all of the above in a heartbeat. 4x walk up starts to our 22.

McKay - gorilla full back, potential to swing forward and has spent his career as the #1 man at a genuine basket case

Gresham - polarising I know, but a crafty small forward, free hit and we have cash to burn

Smith - proven finals winner, would thrive in our system/game. The $$$ he would bring in with CJ would pay for itself

King - 10 year KPF. Rare as hens teeth. Strike while the iron is hot.

McCabe - could be a lizard, could be a Darcy Moore

30

Darcy Moore

Age

28

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

. Pragmatically could be 4-5 years before we see any ROI.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

In that case...

Ken oath mate.

You heard it here first. Just call me Tom Browne Tom Browne

 

[GinniAndTonic]

McKay free agent, front ended
Gresham free agent, front ended
Trade 2023 1st for Smith
Trade 2024 1st for King
Draft McCabe

I would do all of the above in a heartbeat. 4x walk up starts to our 22.

McKay - gorilla full back, potential to swing forward and has spent his career as the #1 man at a genuine basket case

Gresham - polarising I know, but a crafty small forward, free hit and we have cash to burn

Smith - proven finals winner, would thrive in our system/game. The $$$ he would bring in with CJ would pay for itself

King - 10 year KPF. Rare as hens teeth. Strike while the iron is hot.

McCabe - could be a lizard, could be a Darcy Moore. Pragmatically could be 4-5 years before we see any ROI.

Absolutely zero chances that king doesn’t cost 2 1st rounders.

 

[Hawk1986]

I think priority number 1 should be to get GCS pick 4. Pick 3 and 4 gives us significant opportunity at the draft, and back to back picks a bonus.

I would use our future 1st pick plus (if needed) whatever we get for Brockman, which gives GCS points for this year, to get that deal done.

Then we take 2 of Dursma/Watson/McKercher/Caddy (assuming North don’t get first round compo for McKay). That’s a good haul.

 

[TylerDurden]

I think priority number 1 should be to get GCS pick 4. Pick 3 and 4 gives us significant opportunity at the draft, and back to back picks a bonus.

I would use our future 1st pick plus (if needed) whatever we get for Brockman, which gives GCS points for this year, to get that deal done.

Then we take 2 of Dursma/Watson/McKercher/Caddy (assuming North don’t get first round compo for McKay). That’s a good haul.

This. Our fwd line is a shambles. We need BOTH Wiz and Duursma.

 

[Brant]

Hawks Pick 3 and next years first pick which more than likely would be top 10 again.

You just find a way and get it done if there is a sniff.

If we want to sell signed jumpers before his first game then we should be all over this sh1t - just absolutely sell the farm & get it done!!!!!

If we want to continue building a dynastic team, then maybe we take 2x Top 6 picks & set about extending that Premiership Cabinet.

 

[The hands of stone]

Absolutely zero chances that king doesn’t cost 2 1st rounders.

And the Dogs will want 2 firsts for Smith

 

[TylerDurden]

And the Dogs will want 2 firsts for Smith

Correct.
Even old mate Scott is banging on about what Ratagolea will be worth. Spare me. We need to move on from these jokers.

It's FA or the draft. Nothing else.

 

[Brant]

He doesn't look half as robotic as a forward.

If looks were important then Jess Sinclair would've been the greatest player of all time...

And yet, most of you have to google him to have a clue who I'm taking about...

 

[MasterSamurai]

Both McKay and King would definitely improve us as bookend gorillas.
Spine:

McKay
Sicily
Newcombe
Lewis
King

That's not too shabby! At least the load released off Lewis and Sicily would be huge. McKay is a free hit but not sure if we can come up with the goods to get king! Two first rounders would do it but I'm not too sold on missing out on a top draft pick.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

So nearly everything??

No we are all good for half bank flankers

 

[Lickmesocks]

Hardwick is not letting go of King.

I don’t understand where all this chat is coming from.

He will see him as his future power forward who helps him win flags.

King won’t be at the Hawks as much as we would love him.

 

[RoughysMullet]

Sam likes Ratugolea as a forward, and he's an upgrade on Kosi so it makes sense.

No he’s not

 

[rei154]

My favourite part of the year- waiting (aggressively) for ITK posters to post any thing that sounds vaguely like it will get my hopes up.

If anyone has any vaguely credible information further linking us to King or Smith I'll be stoked
If anyone has anything on us gaining more first round draft collateral I'll be ecstatic.
What a time to be alive.

 

[burger09]

This. Our fwd line is a shambles. We need BOTH Wiz and Duursma.

And King

 

[Brant]

Both McKay and King would definitely improve us as bookend gorillas.
Spine:

McKay
Sicily
Newcombe
Lewis
King

That's not too shabby! At least the load released off Lewis and Sicily would be huge. McKay is a free hit but not sure if we can come up with the goods to get king! Two first rounders would do it but I'm not too sold on missing out on a top draft pick.

Sicily at CHB is part of the problem - he's not effectively defending an opponent (did it well in 2022 though). Need a CHB, not a FB (unless Blanck or Jeka stand up at CHB).

 

[burger09]

Only positive from today is pick 3and 4 is on, If we have the balls.

 

[f4zz]

Before today's game, hawks posters calling every trade target a spud. After today's game, hawks list no good, really need trades..

Those thinking McKay, Gresham or esava won't help us structurally are kidding.

 

[RoughysMullet]

Before today's game, hawks posters calling every trade target a spud. After today's game, hawks list no good, really need trades..

Those thinking McKay, Gresham or esava won't help us structurally are kidding.

McKay and Gresham might- Esava won’t